The Rat Trap

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For those that remember Izzy, she went in for her 2nd round of chemo today. Not sure if it's breast cancer, or some other kind.

Izzy from Ocala?

[GeorgeMason]

For those that remember Izzy, she went in for her 2nd round of chemo today. Not sure if it's breast cancer, or some other kind.

[VerySlowly]

Don't know what law he may have helped to pass, but believe he is referring to Matt Gaetz.

He is referring to the Federal law on 'Human Trafficking" Nothing to do with Matt Gaetz directly however Mr. Gaetz has been accused of trafficking young girls with "Greenberg" the former Seminole county official. Who pled guilty. --VS.

[GeorgeMason]

Are you talking about Clinton or Biden.

Don't know what law he may have helped to pass, but believe he is referring to Matt Gaetz.

[Waarthog]

They both have a terrible record.

You monger on also.

You are a funny guy. Have a nice day and monger long!

[UtahLedgend2]

You are a funny guy. Have a nice day and monger long!

Are you talking about Clinton or Biden.

[Waarthog]

Are you talking about Clinton or Biden.

January 17,2017.

[Nightowl21]

Another regular member who just asks and asks and asks. Man, why not RTFF, then just select one of the many who are positive reviewed, then report back? Give something to the forum, then maybe someone will help. YD P.S. I wish regular members could not gain access to the UTR section.

At least we got rid of the Azzwaxer, if you remember him, (Senior Member with 85 out of 88 posts wanting handouts), LOL. Unless he came back under a different user name. Hmmm, then again, there do seem to be a bunch of trollers popping up lately.

[NathanKnight]

Another regular member who just asks and asks and asks. Man, why not RTFF, then just select one of the many who are positive reviewed, then report back? Give something to the forum, then maybe someone will help. YD P.S. I wish regular members could not gain access to the UTR section.

If you see my posts, then you will know that I am posting pretty in depth reviews, I might be new but everyone got to start somewhere, even you.

No bad beef man.

Thanks.

Stay safe.

NK.

[Yankee Doodle]

Hey guys,

I've been trying to find a safe, reliable sexy UTR for a while now, don't want to get into any drama, just have fun.

Is there any advice anyone can give on how to find one? Or any recommendations are great too.

Money isn't really an issue, just want to have a good time.

PM is fine.

Thanks and stay safe.

NK.

Another regular member who just asks and asks and asks. Man, why not RTFF, then just select one of the many who are positive reviewed, then report back? Give something to the forum, then maybe someone will help. YD P.S. I wish regular members could not gain access to the UTR section.

[Grain 56]

From the General Reports Thread:

Why are why'll talking about Jacksonville girls in here? There is a Jacksonville forum where they are already discussed.

Because a Member (long standing) asked about some talent suggestions between HERE to Jacksonville, quite a large area. Since this was done in the "General Report" thread, in my opinion, the question was asked in a proper thread and the replies coming in generally support the question. Yes, there are JAX posts to support this research as well, but since he asked about girls from point A to point B, it seems to be appropriate. I am sure there could be more posts coming about other girls that fit the bill also from other cities and not just JAX.

On the other hand.

What I don't get is why in the Positive Escort Review Thread that an OFF-TOPIC question posted there gets even more traction from our Members (and no pushback) than a post that was actually placed in the correct (General) Thread. Currently, as I write this, 60% (9 of 15 posts) of the First Page of the Positive Review Thread is a conversation about a long time Provider covering everything from denials about getting digits to whether she is Bat-Shit Crazy to White Knighting for her. All because of ONE Off-Topic Post, coming from a Member that has come out from practically an 18 month hibernation to ASK for digits of a provider out of the blue. No Review, just an ask.

If we are going to just post what we want, where we want and then other people keep feeding (rewarding) the people that don't respect the Thread Topics by giving replies, we should just not have Threads at all and just make it a single topic blog.

Personally I want to find reviews in the review threads and not have people asking for digits then 8 more replies about a girl that was mentioned or people announcing their "Pope's Tour" and demand that the streets be lined with your best girls when they arrive. If you recall not too long ago in the Positive Review Thread, we had a Multi-Days long, Multi-Page series of posts over shopping at Walmart or Publix and how they relate to providers and pricing of same. All from a single post that was totally off-topic. There were times during that Grocery Store discussion period that when you added in all the other Off-Topic Posts and Replies together asking for digits and such, that well over 60% of the Review Thread was off-topic banter. Only 10% of the Thread's contents were actual reviews, the rest was replies to those reviews.

If we are going to just post what we want, where we want and then keep feeding (rewarding) the people that don't respect the Thread Topics by giving them replies on the wrong Threads, we should just not have Threads at all and just make it a single topic blog.

If I see an off-topic post I feel compelled to reply to, I do it via DM where I don't pollute the thread and encourage others to join in and keep the conversation going.

I want to find the rip-off providers in the the Rip-Off Threads, I want AMP Threads, I want SW Threads, I want Negative Review Threads, etc. I also want to have some "junk drawer' threads to catch anything that doesn't fit into another thread. Which we have as General Reports and The Rat Trap.

As Frank Bartels once said in the Early 1980's, "Thank you for your support."

Grain 56.

[Bjceb]

I remember feeling froggy getting an incall one time and she got stood up by every one except me who urged her to get one. She was so frustrated and swore to never due it again. I think she didn't lose money but she wasted a bunch of time. Can't treat people like that.

We have to do better!

Stay safe and have fun!

The last part about the UTR's and even some not UTR's leaving the biz because of lowlife scummers really hits home. I've seen so many girls that were amazing that just couldn't take it anymore and quit. It's not even from boinking weird guys, either. The number one complaint was No Calls, No Shows. I spelled it out to make sure that guys' see it and know what I'm talking about. So many of these girls have guy's that make a date and then don't even have the common courtesy to contact the girl to cancel. Some of the girls have to come up with coin for a motel room, then make three or four dates, only to have all of them flake out. Hate to say it, but USASG guy's are notorious for it.

If you can't make a dream with a girl, call or text her to let her know. Also, don't make the date if you are unsure if you can make it there on time. Pretty simple. Yes, we all have lives, jobs, SO's, etc but just take ten seconds to send a text. My. 02.

[Vino 7373]

I agree Vino, spot on as usual. We've all made stupid posts. It's not at all a lost cause for the new Member. Another recently new to the Board member comes to my mind that started off the same way a short bit back. They took some advice and started posting really helpful posts that helped gain some creds. A second one I can think of unfortunately didn't work out as well for them though as they came on announcing to the Board that they have a new screen name therefore deserved instant creds because of their past posts under their old name, which they gave out in the post. Usually this would help, but when you read the old posts on that old screen name, this dude didn't contribute with that name at all and was famous for asking for info without providing any value in return, so him getting help was (and still is somewhat) strained.

Too many times new-to-post members (most are not always new to mongering) forget that the Board as a whole can't see your storied past (good or bad) prior to your first posts. We have to see how you meld in here over some time. The way they come on and "speak" makes all the difference. A new member might be a great guy and also might be a real Dick-weed. The Board Members have to determine that based on the posts they make and the manner in which they conduct themselves. Not saying a new Member should walk on pins and needles or that it's not OK to have some swagger at times, but info is generally free for those that read and contribute.

Girls that sometime we think are new to the game or are new, exclusive finds are actually long time providers that others probably know well. I thought I found new girls several times only to realize they were yesterday's news 9 out of 10 times. When you actually find that elusive provider that doesn't advertise and have something special, the UTR Thread is there to share your experiences with those girls. On there, you can be a gatekeeper so-to-speak and filter mongers before you share info. I will say this though, if you do ever find that UTR gem, your filtering needs to be a lot more stringent than simply saying if you give me a hidden provider's number, I will give you my hidden provider's number. That's where the creds you build over time shows what type of person you are. Careful filtering also helps protect the girls from possible harm or even turns off the UTR from the business altogether.

Grain 56.

The last part about the UTR's and even some not UTR's leaving the biz because of lowlife scummers really hits home. I've seen so many girls that were amazing that just couldn't take it anymore and quit. It's not even from boinking weird guys, either. The number one complaint was No Calls, No Shows. I spelled it out to make sure that guys' see it and know what I'm talking about. So many of these girls have guy's that make a date and then don't even have the common courtesy to contact the girl to cancel. Some of the girls have to come up with coin for a motel room, then make three or four dates, only to have all of them flake out. Hate to say it, but USASG guy's are notorious for it.

If you can't make a dream with a girl, call or text her to let her know. Also, don't make the date if you are unsure if you can make it there on time. Pretty simple. Yes, we all have lives, jobs, SO's, etc but just take ten seconds to send a text. My. 02.

[Grain 56]

From a member that's had to eat some crow for stupid shit that I posted, I applaud you for what you did. Sometimes you just have to man up and apologize when you screw up. Keep giving info and you will get your cred. My. 02.

I agree Vino, spot on as usual. We've all made stupid posts. It's not at all a lost cause for the new Member. Another recently new to the Board member comes to my mind that started off the same way a short bit back. They took some advice and started posting really helpful posts that helped gain some creds. A second one I can think of unfortunately didn't work out as well for them though as they came on announcing to the Board that they have a new screen name therefore deserved instant creds because of their past posts under their old name, which they gave out in the post. Usually this would help, but when you read the old posts on that old screen name, this dude didn't contribute with that name at all and was famous for asking for info without providing any value in return, so him getting help was (and still is somewhat) strained.

Too many times new-to-post members (most are not always new to mongering) forget that the Board as a whole can't see your storied past (good or bad) prior to your first posts. We have to see how you meld in here over some time. The way they come on and "speak" makes all the difference. A new member might be a great guy and also might be a real Dick-weed. The Board Members have to determine that based on the posts they make and the manner in which they conduct themselves. Not saying a new Member should walk on pins and needles or that it's not OK to have some swagger at times, but info is generally free for those that read and contribute.

Girls that sometime we think are new to the game or are new, exclusive finds are actually long time providers that others probably know well. I thought I found new girls several times only to realize they were yesterday's news 9 out of 10 times. When you actually find that elusive provider that doesn't advertise and have something special, the UTR Thread is there to share your experiences with those girls. On there, you can be a gatekeeper so-to-speak and filter mongers before you share info. I will say this though, if you do ever find that UTR gem, your filtering needs to be a lot more stringent than simply saying if you give me a hidden provider's number, I will give you my hidden provider's number. That's where the creds you build over time shows what type of person you are. Careful filtering also helps protect the girls from possible harm or even turns off the UTR from the business altogether.

Grain 56.

[Vino 7373]

I never got any AMP's to stay open later for me. Where did you hear that?

So I am going to say this with complete honesty. I walked into a wall like an idiot on my original post. So I would like to send out my apologies, especially to the senior members.

Obviously I wasn't thinking in the most functional manner when I made that post. I am usually better than that. I enjoy the mongering like everyone else.

I suppose my thinking was that I already established a certain amount of "cred" managing strip clubs for the last 25 years (including one here locally) and somehow that automatically.

Translates over to the board, LOL. Clearly it does not.

Sorry guys, Ill do better.

From a member that's had to eat some crow for stupid shit that I posted, I applaud you for what you did. Sometimes you just have to man up and apologize when you screw up. Keep giving info and you will get your cred. My. 02.