Arrangement Reports

[HaydenBerg]

Anyone ever seen her before:

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...4-7883ed943234

[HarryMcHardon]

Spot on. SA might work well for the attractive twenty and thirty somethings, but not really for older guys.

I disagree. I've had 20-something SBs tell me they specifically reject 20 and early 30-something guys because they just favor older men. I was surprised that there were even 20-something guys on SA tbh, because thinking it would be difficult finding suck-cess on SA with a gig job, and still living at home. Not to mention 20-something dudes should be out there finding free stuff, really.

This is an interesting subject. Some guys on SA willing to pay $ get nothing and some guys get it for free. I like to think of a baseball analogy, ie being what they call a five tool player. If you're a baseball fan you know what that is, but in the sugar bowl, the 5 tools, I'd say are 1.) Looks, . 2) Youth, 3.) Funds, 4.) Freedom, and 5.) Game. And by youth, in the SB, I'm thinking the optimum age range is 35-50. Freedom is basically being single and able to show these girls a good time outside the bedroom. Ironically none of the tools have anything to do with your actual tool. LOL. If you have all of these tools, then you're going to rake on SA. You're even going to get free chicks.

Most of us are weak in several of these areas, but not all of them. Those who are weak in all areas will have to resort to something besides SA. Most likely their hand. LOL. But most here are strong in several areas and those are the cards thay you play with, and that's what makes SA so fun. Being a 5 tool player in SA, while fun, is likely not really that challenging.

I find the sporting aspect of SA to be a lot of fun. I get frustrated by rejection and the time wasting, but remind myself that's part of the game. All it takes is one really good experience, after you've had multiple face plants, multiple rejections, to make ya forget about the rejections and wasted time. And they're out there. That's the hook that keeps me in this game.

Some of the tools I'm woefully weak on, but on some, I nail. I play those cards, and I have had success on SA, even though I'm probably considered over the hill, age-wise. And my success isn't measured by what some other studs are getting, but what I can get, with my limitations and capabilities.

[Pal5600]

Women are attracted to both a man's looks and his utility. The only difference between a vanilla gf 20 years younger and a sugar gf 20 years younger is the sugar relationship is more honest.

Yeah, I agree, there always sugar involved in dating hot young women half your age, ave or below ave looking women, idk maybe or maybe not, my theory old guys with money dating hot young women = yes, old guys without money dating hot young women= it could happen but probably not, the only different is sugar (from one old man vs another old man).

[SgtSlapaHoe]

Yes it can happen, but in my world I never see a super hot 20's model with an older guys without money involved, my guess in hollywood, chicago miami, new york ect, you see it all the time.

,I am very sure there are money involved, I could be wrong but I doublt it, old guys with lotsss money and power get hot young pussy, been like that for many years and will never change.

even with average looking girls, there money involved, below average idk maybe or maybe not no money involved

Women are attracted to both a man's looks and his utility. The only difference between a vanilla gf 20 years younger and a sugar gf 20 years younger is the sugar relationship is more honest.

[Malfoy829]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...3-734c9472685b

Some girls use the Platonic tag to hold down the messaging. This one is seeking strictly platonic financial assistance.

[Pal5600]

Yes it can happen, but in my world I never see a super hot 20's model with an older guys without money involved, my guess in hollywood, chicago miami, new york ect, you see it all the time.

,I am very sure there are money involved, I could be wrong but I doublt it, old guys with lotsss money and power get hot young pussy, been like that for many years and will never change.

even with average looking girls, there money involved, below average idk maybe or maybe not no money involved

And I really, really don't think Donald Trump will date models if he working at Mcdonald or any ave regular 9-5 jobs, I could be wrong but I doubt it.

[Pal5600]

Sounds like you need to change your world.

No, my world is fine and good, don't need to change.

[XgmMe1423]

Yes it can happen, but in my world I never see a super hot 20's model with an older guys without money involved, my guess in hollywood, chicago miami, new york ect, you see it all the time.

,I am very sure there are money involved, I could be wrong but I doublt it, old guys with lotsss money and power get hot young pussy, been like that for many years and will never change.

even with average looking girls, there money involved, below average idk maybe or maybe not no money involved

Sounds like you need to change your world.

[Pal5600]

Speak for yourself. I am 45 and have dated, actual girlfriends in their mid to late twenties. A lot 20 year olds are tired of guys in their 20's, who act like teenagers. You would be surprised what a girl will date for attention.

It's like what they say when you see a hot girl in a bar; you should hit on her, as many see her as unapproachable. If you can give her attention, you are half way there.

Yes it can happen, but in my world I never see a super hot 20's model with an older guys without money involved, my guess in hollywood, chicago miami, new york ect, you see it all the time.

,I am very sure there are money involved, I could be wrong but I doublt it, old guys with lotsss money and power get hot young pussy, been like that for many years and will never change.

even with average looking girls, there money involved, below average idk maybe or maybe not no money involved

[XgmMe1423]

Women in their 20's usually don't have sex with guys in their 40's without something in return, usually money, good looking girls in their early 20's can find all kind of 20's something guys at bars, clubs, class room, party ect. Is not like a 40's guys hang out with her or her friends, is just don't happen in real life, maybe in a fantasy life, it not like a hot 20's something come up to me at the bars, clubs, restaurants, ect and said I think your big belly, gray hair, wrinkles skin, big ass ect is so so hot and I want to fuck you, It could happen, but I have a better odd of winner the power and mega balls this week before that happen.

Speak for yourself. I am 45 and have dated, actual girlfriends in their mid to late twenties. A lot 20 year olds are tired of guys in their 20's, who act like teenagers. You would be surprised what a girl will date for attention.

It's like what they say when you see a hot girl in a bar; you should hit on her, as many see her as unapproachable. If you can give her attention, you are half way there.

[Pal5600]

Of all the girls I meet on sa, about 95% have boyfriend or in a transitional period (meaning they will being talking to 1 or 2 or 3 other guys that's similar to their boyfriend, and when they break up with their current boyfriend, then they pick one of the 3 guy to be their new boyfriend) so they really only single for a few days or weeks, is not like they will have a fat, old ugly 50's years old asian guy like me as one of the 3 that they'll choose from, for me have sex with a super hot 18-22 coed for free is only a dream, then my fucking alarm clock go on and time to go to work, that's my 2 cents, beautiful young women always, always have many different options and they will used it, however have lotsss of money is not always one of the options for these girls or they need quick cash, that's why they do it, if they are very rich, then none of these girls would be on sa.

[Pal5600]

Spot on. SA might work well for the attractive twenty and thirty somethings, but not really for older guys.

Women in their 20's usually don't have sex with guys in their 40's without something in return, usually money, good looking girls in their early 20's can find all kind of 20's something guys at bars, clubs, class room, party ect. Is not like a 40's guys hang out with her or her friends, is just don't happen in real life, maybe in a fantasy life, it not like a hot 20's something come up to me at the bars, clubs, restaurants, ect and said I think your big belly, gray hair, wrinkles skin, big ass ect is so so hot and I want to fuck you, It could happen, but I have a better odd of winner the power and mega balls this week before that happen.

[Pal5600]

As someone who occasionally lurks in this thread, I have yet to see someone make a post of an actual attractive girl and say that they fucked them. It's always average to below average looking girls who ask for more money than the agencies who have better looking girls.

Now I get that BBFS is more prevalent in arrangements as well as less rigid lines in terms of the relationship and that may make it appealing to many. But by and large what I see here is people wasting enormous amounts of time and energy attempting to communicate with a handful of women who are so overwhelmed with demand that they don't even bother to write back. And that's not even including the scams, time wasters, online only girls, men posing as women, and whatever else exists on that site.

I understand that people have found gems and that even one gem can be worth all the effort. But that's technically the definition of Fishing. And who the hell has time to fish everyday?

Guys that post on here is only a small percentage of all the guys on sa, maybe 10% or less, the other 90%+ don't post or give out any info. I have many sa girls that I think is extremely beautiful and I will never post their info. If I am currently see them, the one I post are the one I am working on, most of time my success rate is low and that's what I expected, if my success rate is high then the girls is probably not worth it.

To me, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I never see any post on here that I can get excited about, so I just post my personal view of beauty and my success rate is very low but I had meet many girls on sa from my list or inbox, at least 15 or more, but they do come and go, like anything else in this world.

[Jinurso]

The SA board is a little different from all the other ones because it's usually used to report on scams, bad experiences, or so-so experiences that the guy has moved on from. The nature of SA is that it often requires so much work to find someone better than an escort that most guys would rather keep her to himself than report and suddenly lose her.

My advice is not to use the SA board as a way to look for women. Instead use it as a way to vet women you're talking to.

I stopped using SA late last year. I really enjoyed meeting some non-pro gems who I would spend a weekend with without having to keep track of how many hours I owe her for. But eventually it starting putting too much pressure on the bounds of a SA relationship. Baaically "if I'm not an escort then I should be your girlfriend and I should be entitled to commitment and access. If I'm not your girlfriend then pay me like an escort and I'll go find someone else. " I decided that escorting worked better for me.

[HitMan1783]

I could not agree more! I have had great luck on SA with very attractive women, 20's, around $300 starting, always BBFS and have progressed to just hanging out and fucking with no cash.

I was fortunate that a few years back, a fellow monger showed me the ropes. I had another account on here that was banned but I would always post girls and ended up getting burned by all of the guys on here.

You would treat them like shit, bombard them with messages and even tell them what I posted on here; I was confronted by a few of them. After that I was done!

You have to realize that these are real people. Just because you message someone doesn't mean that they have to message you back.

Also as much as everyone on here says, oh they give off pro vibes, does not mean that they are still not people.

As much as you would like to think all girls on SA are transactional, they are still people.

You have to know how to talk to them, like you are trying to pick them up in a bar. Yet unfortiunately some of you just have no game.

Just because you waive some cash at them, that doesn't mean anything, as there are 100's of others doing the same.

What is going to make you stand out to them? Hint, it's not just money.

I currently have 2 girls, one a bottle server, 24 years, imagine darker haired Iggy Azalea and a 26 year old dental assistant, think Becky G.

We meet once a week to order in food, fuck BBFS and they spend the night for $0. Sounds like two unicorns, right? Yes! Do you know how much work you have to put in? Ultimately, as much as everyone complains, you have to put in your own work. And as much as some will say, if I wanted to put in the work, I would just get a gf. Cool, so you think that you can pull a hot 24 year old piece of ass as your gf? Probably not.

If I can give some advice to those, as it was passed along to me.

1. Be nice and treat them like people.

2. If they are gps, then move on. If someone else gives them 1000's of the dollars, then let them. That girl wasn't meant for you and there is no need to ***** about it.

3. Keep it brief on SA and move to texting asap. If you start off talking transactionally, then you are going to get a transactional conversation.

4. Use the reports on here as a suggestion. Just because one guy doesn't close, doesn't mean that you won't. You might look like another poster on here but sending a different message may get a different result.

5. Have fun! The goal is not to talk to 100's of women to post crappy reports here, that tell nothing of substance. The goal is find some young hot piece of ass to bang!

6. Don't let your ego get in the way. You might find your unicorn but don't come on here to post your luck and then expect everyone here to be consderate.

Happy hunting!

I feel ya on the someone repeating something I said on this board and getting called out for it by the girl. I don't like sharing anymore either. Grow the fuck up guys.