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  1. #19792

    Impressions, negotiations and Asian culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.
    I am under impression that if house fee is 80, the provider gets part of it. $30 I think at some places. When the fee is like $60 for half hour they might get $20.

    SO they make more $ in the long run doing 1/2 hour gigs and also get more tips from more happy mongers. And the house makes more on 1/2 hour visits IF they are busy and guys lined up out the door.

    I assume this varies from Korean and Chinese AMPs and even from AMP to AMP.

    Key is try to go on slow days and slow times.

    I might be wrong and if anyone has good or better info, please share.

    I think this is important because their cut of the House amount actually adds on to the tip you give them. So if you go for an hour at 80 house and give her the rest of the 200 you have in your pocket, her tip is 120 plus the 30 she might get from house fee. So when negotiating and she is a good trained negotiator, you can or not, remind her that she is really getting 150 for the transaction.

    Remember that they culturally expect to negotiate for anything and everything. It is their cultural nature and they practice at it and develop techniques. They also know if you walk or say no or say just regular massage they have just lost a lot of revenue for the next hour. So the hour can cost them a lot if they don't settle to be reasonable.

    Also the closing technique before leaving is for them to typically ask for20 more, please, please. Works sometimes. After all, if you don't ask for it you will never get it. Good sales people are always asking for the order, over and over again.

    You have to learn to negotiate back nicely in a fun disarming way. Probably the best way is to look them in the eye and just laugh out loud nicely. And say nothing. First one to talk at that point loses.

    I would be interested in how others negotiate and what techniques have and have not worked on them. It tough when you walk in and she give you a sexy vibe and you hug her and she responds by rubbing your Dick and saying "That's nice".

    Always smile and be nice to the ladies. Treat them nice and fairly and if you negotiate well, they will treat you very well too. Culturally they do expect you to smile, laugh and not always accept what they are asking for.

    What say you?

    HG2.

  2. #19791

    Help dressing.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyDon  [View Original Post]
    It used to be the standard in this area. But then again getting a rim job was a standard lead into the basic hand job back in the day too.

    Yea, times have changed.
    I have had many help dressing me. Yes nice touch.

    Actually since I am slow to preform and it takes the time, I also got the feeling that some help you dress just to get you out the door quicker. If they are not free, they might miss the next in rotation and lose out on tips. Is my guess, LOL.

    HG.

  3. #19790
    Quote Originally Posted by Arty33  [View Original Post]
    If you saw Luna, you'll remember her, hot ass and pierced boobs, tight body, pretty face, she was there for a short while so don't recall all these names, all a blur so many girls so much good times. LOL.
    Most I have gotten out of Eden is a facial or footjob.

  4. #19789
    Quote Originally Posted by Loader401  [View Original Post]
    I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.
    Makes sense and I just wondered. Thanks. Sigh a big breasted woman makes me want to give it a shot too but not sure I will have the time the next few weeks.

  5. #19788

    Yes, She available. What time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loader401  [View Original Post]
    I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.
    Yea, I have called places and gotten the name wrong. I always get the answer "Yes she here. What time you come? Just did it last week when I got a girls name wrong. Another girl I knew I did not like came out and swore I called for her. Nope. Just picked up and left.

    I am still looking for that new ATF thatdoes not have GPS.

  6. #19787

    Just described her

    Quote Originally Posted by Korman23  [View Original Post]
    Just out of curiosity, but how did you ask for her over the phone? I don't recall seeing anyone posting any name for that short, big chested lady.
    I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.

  7. #19786

    Dressed

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyPete1  [View Original Post]
    I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.

    Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.
    It used to be the standard in this area. But then again getting a rim job was a standard lead into the basic hand job back in the day too.

    Yea, times have changed.

  8. #19785
    Quote Originally Posted by Roger1286  [View Original Post]
    Help getting undressed before the massage, unfasten the belt, unzip the zipper, lower the pants, look up into my eyes, etc. , IMO that is the perfect way to start my one hour relationship.
    If you find that in an AMP, within your first few visits, I'd be very surprised. Perhaps if you build up a really good relationship with a lady at one of those places you might get that. You just have to ask after you develop some rapport / chemistry.

    I think you are far more likely to get that with an escort. There was an Asian provider in Denver, CO. That did that to me during our first encounter and it was awesome (https://www.preferred411.com/P2782, TER I'd: 36230 - mine is the most recent review, 2017). Actually, there was a full length mirror near the door in my hotel room and she had me next to it, so I could watch. It was AMAZING.

  9. #19784

    Actually what I want is.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyPete1  [View Original Post]
    I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.

    Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.
    Help getting undressed before the massage, unfasten the belt, unzip the zipper, lower the pants, look up into my eyes, etc. , IMO that is the perfect way to start my one hour relationship.

  10. #19783
    Quote Originally Posted by Moses357  [View Original Post]
    Re: There are about 17 reviews on TER. One of the member's claimed he got FS w / BBBJ (didn't say what was the damage). Everyone else was CBT.
    RE: https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...12845681.html. Updated photo. Don't let her fool you. She is more open to repeats as far as BBBJ.

  11. #19782

    Help getting dressed?

    I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.

    Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.

  12. #19781
    Quote Originally Posted by JustJohn007  [View Original Post]
    Thank you!

    Never saw her there. Guess I can now for $20 less. LOL.

    BG has a few new girls. Melanie's pictures look familiar but I can't place her.

    I had been hoping Olivia would show up but looks like that ship has sailed.
    Only read bad things about Aria. Would not recommend. I'd loveeeee to see Olivia again.

  13. #19780
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.
    I paid the asking price.

    Any recommendations while Eleven is closed?

  14. #19779

    Eleven in Herndon

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny13  [View Original Post]
    I've been seeing independents for a couple years now, always a little nervous to try AMPs. That all changed six months ago when I visited Comfort in Manassas. I went there a couple times, seeing Emily. I found her very attractive, with a nice massage, but I wanted a little more options when it comes to the menu. I always paid the hour house fee of $60, and always tipped between $40 and $60. She only offered the NOVA finish with utc roaming, both bottom and top. I even offered to raise the tip amount, but no dice. Then after reading some reviews, I tried Eleven in Herndon. My first experience was with Bobbie, paying the $80 house fee. I really enjoyed the TS, which was my first, and the massage. She has a full menu, which I opted for. For FS the price was $150. My next trip to Eleven was with Abby. I really liked her, Her TS was amazing with a lot of teasing. On to the room, where she gave my a very light massage, which I enjoy, that lasted maybe five minutes before starting with a CBJ and FS to complete the hour. Same tip that I gave Bobbie. While I like both ladies very much, I would have to say that Abby is my favorite of the two. The only thing I guess I have to get used to is bringing my own cover. I never had to do that with independents.

    I do have a question for the group. I saw on the forum that Eleven is closed for about 30 days. Is there any intel where Bobbie and Abby may be working until they reopen?

    Many thanks.
    Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.

  15. #19778
    Quote Originally Posted by Loader401  [View Original Post]
    Was driving by and remembered the post about the a short, big titty, older model that allows FS. The short and big tits had me excited since I called and she said she was available. Since I was really 5 minutes away I swung over.

    So here is where it went downhill. I arrived and there was a language barrier. I mentioned that I had just called and when I spoke to the woman bringing me to the room she acted like she didn't understand English. I mentioned I wanted the short one and she basically told me that she was going to give the massage. She had a average figure. B / C tits and a little thick around the middle. I should've walked because I really don't like being lied to or playing the I don't understand game when you spoke perfect fucking English on the phone. The reason I stayed was she said in broken English, that she was way better than the other. So I figured I will bite the bullet and try and I can always take a HJ and roll on.

    TS was simply safe. She got all the parts but it was mechanical. The massage was actually decent and if you had knots, she would do for that part. The next speed bump was the negotiation. She agreed to a BBBJ for $. FS was available but I didn't find her that attractive. So she dims the lights low. She does the HJ thing and starts to block my view.

    Sooooo NEWBIES, if you don't know this trick, learn it NOW. If they turn the lights down low and totally block your view and bob their head not in your view, they are NOT giving you head. Since earlier in my mongering experience I had the displeasure of that bait and switch I knew her game and called her out. Now I had already paid the tip. So I'm pissed. Well she argued and then when I got up to walk out she is pleading to make it better. I wanted to walk but the little head said "well, what can I get now?" Long story short, I got a quick BBBJ, p2 p, and an occasional slippage of my member into her bare. The BBFS wasn't intentional, it occurred a couple of times while sliding and she let it happen a few strokes before pulling out. Probably happened roughly 5-6 times but got my rocks off in the end.

    Will not repeat just because I hate bait and switch.
    Just out of curiosity, but how did you ask for her over the phone? I don't recall seeing anyone posting any name for that short, big chested lady.

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