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  1. #13533
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMann  [View Original Post]
    I come into the Dearborn area for business several times a year. Here is my latest report: The Good and The Bad-Fuck fight club
    I have been to Flight Club numerous times and they have many bad policies as you described, but nothing much different than the majority of other clubs.

    I typically only go once a year or so, because the prices I am quoted there are ridiculously high. Perhaps money is not an issue for you like it is for me.

    There are some attractive dancers but in general I find the quality similar to bts. Many dancer dance at both Flight club and bts, or Flight club and Criket. I typically even avoid Flight Club dancers at other clubs. One of the question I like to ask girls is where else they worked and when the say Flight Club I know their expectation about price are too high and their service levels are too low. I recently met a girl at bts named Loriana she told me she was ex Flight Club, and she asked for a tip just for talking to me. I told her she should go back to Flight Club where that kind of hustle might work.

    Occasionally I have had a good time at Flight Club, but typically it is with a girl I met at a different club first and then she moved to Flight Club.

    If I didn't like need to negotiate with 8-10 girls to find a decent priced VIP session I would go to Flight Club more often, but the way the pricing is there it is too stressful negotiating all night and possibly walking out with out doing a VIP session.

    I haven't been back since October 2020 and I did make it in the VIP that night but it was with an average looking girl who provided a horrible VIP experience.

    MM.

  2. #13532
    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    So at bt's and flight club you can fuck shot girls in the club?
    I can't speak for Flight Club, but at bts, you are allowed to go with the shot girl. The way that is works, is she has to change her designation from shot girl to dancer. Then you have to pay her tip out, which is typically around $200, then you negotiate with her for dances and VIP activities and pay that separately directly to the dancer. Typically taking a shot girl will cost you double the money for taking a dancer and that is why it is rarely done. I did it once and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the shot girl, in fact I had so much fun a took her to the VIP a second time that same night. I would do it again but only for a special girl that was my perfect fantasy.

    As for shot girls, the whole purpose of the shot girl is to convert them to dancers. Typically they run ads for waitresses, then when girls apply they say they only have shot girl positions open now, and shot girls can make more money than waitresses. As a shot girl she has to buy all her shots in advance. If she does not sell them during the night, she can be out more money than she brings in. However if she sells multiple trays during the night the second and third tray are all profit to her. The way the club works there are busy nights and slow nights. On a slow night if she is not making enough money they offer her to go on stage and dance, and then they have a new dancer for the next few weeks. It is an efficient system, and not all shot girls will become dancers, but I encourage you to be friendly with them, because once they start dancing you can be one of their first customers.

    MM.

  3. #13531

    Knowlege and tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    She said it was on the table later in the night.
    The knowledge they have about the girls and.

    Is worth it's weight in gold. Who to avoid and who is worth playing with.

  4. #13530

    No cashmere

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBarton  [View Original Post]
    Got a chance to check Vixen out towards the end of her shift. Extra thick borderline BBW but pretty enough. Had a nice conversation and headed to the back. Started out with some dances, first song top off, second song bottoms off. After a little more playing said she wanted to fuck and quoted $. 5. I said I wanted head too and she said sure. BBBJ was decent, but needed a little more suction. Didn't take too long before cover went on, but I honestly think she wanted to fuck. Hit it doggie and she can take a pounding.

    Honestly, she's a fun time, but she's no Cashmere. That girl was a unicorn. Total freak that loved to fuck. If she would've been local I would've fucked her 7 days a week. But Vixen is a good time and I'll definitely repeat when I catch her working on day shift.
    I didn't necessarily state she was the second coming of Cashmere, because you are right, Cashmere was one in a million. Vixen still reminded me of her due to body type and overall treatment in the VIP. As always YMMV I guess, but I'll definitely repeat with Vixen too.

  5. #13529

    Learned something new

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    PL,

    Very well said, I completely agree. If more guys walked out when asked to pay for services in advance it would happen less often. The most I will is show a girl I have the funds and then the money goes Back in my pocket.

    MM.
    Ahh going to sound like a total newbie but this is news to me. I never knew you shouldn't pay in advance. Thanks for the tip guys.

  6. #13528
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    Shot girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    She said it was on the table later in the night.
    I had a shot girl at Landing Strip once. She was SO hot I couldn't help myself. Had to pay her a bit more because she said she would have to pay the "tip out". But it was worth it this time.

  7. #13527

    Appearntly so

    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    So at bt's and flight club you can fuck shot girls in the club?
    She said it was on the table later in the night.

  8. #13526
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussylicker2  [View Original Post]
    What should the manager have done in your opinion? Should he tell her to go suck your dick like she agreed to? Should he tell her to give you back your money? Suppose she refuses, should he fire her? You were kicked out because you were causing a problem. You paid in advance, once you pay, the dance is over. I read about a guy an h8 n who paid, she went to "get a condom" and sat at the bar leaving him there in the VIP! You'll never go back to the cricket, well they don't want you back. You'll have the same thing happen at most strip clubs. Look back a few posts and read about how MM walked out on several dancers demanding up front payment.

    Why do dancers want to be paid in advance? They'll say they've had guys get dances and refuse to pay. Why do guys refuse to pay? It's because they didn't receive the agreed upon service. If you don't get the service you can just pay for the dances. She may tell the bouncer but he won't do anything. If a dancer has issues with several guys in one night the bouncers will tell her to stop causing problems.

    NEVER PAY IN ADVANCE! Leaving the money on the table is paying in advance.
    PL,

    Very well said, I completely agree. If more guys walked out when asked to pay for services in advance it would happen less often. The most I will is show a girl I have the funds and then the money goes Back in my pocket.

    MM.

  9. #13525

    The Good and The Bad-Fuck fight club

    I come into the Dearborn area for business several times a year. Here is my latest report:

    Flight Club-.

    I get to the club and I go to pay the cover with the only bills I had ($100's). The girl acts annoyed and asks if I have smaller bills. I told her sorry I don't. She continues to have an attitude but I let it slide. I sit down and wait for the dancers. I got there at 7 pm, the time they open on Sundays, and no dancer got on stage until 8:15 pm. I mentioned this to the front desk and they said it was normal, they don't make the girls get there until 8 pm. Then why say you open at 7 pm? Finally, the dancers come out so I need some ones. I'm directed to the rude girl at the front desk again and the following is our convo:

    Me: "Can I get some ones please?" (I hand her $60).

    Her: "We only do ones in intervals of $100".

    Me: "You just acted like my $100 dollar bill was really hard to break. Now I can't get ANY singles unless I give you one hundred?

    Her: "yep. ".

    she hands me this giant stack of ones, as I try to fold it and stick it in my pocket I joke that it barely fits*.

    Her: "Well most people just take the stack and throw it, it doesn't need to go in their pocket. ".

    I walked away obviously annoyed at the policy and the condescending tone. I brush it off and sit back down. I order my drink and watch the girls. The waitress comes by three times in 45 min asking if I want another despite the fact that I'm not even halfway through the one I have. Finally, I let her know I'm good until I finish my first. She then informs me that they have a two-drink PER HOUR minimum. I have been to tons of clubs with a two-drink minimum. But two every hour? So if I'm there for four hours I have to buy eight drinks? This after I paid to valet, paid for a cover charge, tip the bathroom dude, was asked to buy a rose for the stripper by some midget dude and they increased their price to go in the back to $25? As I'm asking the waitress questions about the policy a bouncer comes up and starts giving me a hard time about asking her these basic things. (I was being totally polite, I know it's not her fault but I was hoping she might communicate to someone higher up how it makes customers feel to be treated like this). He told me I had to buy another drink right now because it wasn't a "free show". All this despite the fact that in 45 minutes I had probably gone up and tipped $100 in ones to dancers already. I told him I would just leave. If anyone from Flight Club reads this, here are a few things to keep in mind:

    1. Making me get $100 in ones is insane. Once it's all in ones I can no longer use the money for dances, as I'm not going to try to pay for $50 of dances in one-dollar bills. Also I don't want the strippers knowing how much I have but how do I hide a stack like that?

    2. You are just asking to get sued with your two drink policy. If someone hits another person while drunk driving any good lawyer could come back and say "This is your fault because you required my client to keep drinking the entire time. How does someone sober up before they leave if you force them to have two drinks every hour?

    3. I could forgive all of these rules IF they were posted outside. But instead, you let me pay to park and get in before any of this is mentioned. You already have a sign outside with the dress code, but you leave out all this other stuff. On purpose.

    Other Club Reviews from this weekend:

    BTS-.

    I had a good time with a skinny blonde girl with braces. Her name escapes me. She had a bubbly personality and a nice body, but nothing to blow your mind here. Average pricing.

    Playhouse-.

    I don't see this club mentioned much so I decided to take a gamble. You can def get extras but it is 100% a black club. So if that's not your thing don't go. But I met a great girl named Lexi. Her body wasn't the best but her personality made up for it. I paid $100 for a HJ.

    Landing Strip-.

    I had fun with a pretty black girl named Jamie. Fantastic body and nice personality. She is cool with being paid after, which is nice. I paid $100 for HJ and $25 for a few songs.

    Pantheon-.

    100% a black club. Extras can be had (I didn't partake as none of the girls looked good to me).

    Bogarts-.

    Sorry, I forgot her name but there is a Hispanic girl who works Sunday nights only that was super fun. Big tits and a nice ass. Same $100.

  10. #13524
    Quote Originally Posted by KPlank  [View Original Post]
    I had a free few hours today and hit up H8 north this afternoon for the first time since before COVID. Decent number of girls dancing maybe 5 white girls and 4 black girls. Cute little black spinner with some killed curves named Tiny sat down and we talked a bit until she was called on stage. Also on stage was a thick white dancer named Vixen. Mid-20's, tats, septum piercing, c cup tits and a pretty nice ass, she did have a little gut, but she was right up my alley. I tipped her on stage and she came by after her set. She said today was her first day dancing in Detroit (she was a dancer in Flint). She was a good conversationalist and wasn't pushy for dances, but we went back to the VIP. I was just going for a few "test dances" but when she heard another girl getting pounded, she knew she was "safe" to play I guess. She said she wanted to give me a BJ and asked what a had "she would work with me". I went $120 total including song count and she agreed. She started with a nice BBBJ and then asked me to pound her "she hadn't had cock in months". She was super wet and tight she was dirty talking and way too much fun. She reminded me of another thick white girl, Cashmere. I would repeat in a heartbeat and did get some digits for a hopeful OTC visit.
    Got a chance to check Vixen out towards the end of her shift. Extra thick borderline BBW but pretty enough. Had a nice conversation and headed to the back. Started out with some dances, first song top off, second song bottoms off. After a little more playing said she wanted to fuck and quoted $. 5. I said I wanted head too and she said sure. BBBJ was decent, but needed a little more suction. Didn't take too long before cover went on, but I honestly think she wanted to fuck. Hit it doggie and she can take a pounding.

    Honestly, she's a fun time, but she's no Cashmere. That girl was a unicorn. Total freak that loved to fuck. If she would've been local I would've fucked her 7 days a week. But Vixen is a good time and I'll definitely repeat when I catch her working on day shift.

  11. #13523

    Agree and dis-agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Pussylicker2  [View Original Post]
    What should the manager have done in your opinion? Should he tell her to go suck your dick like she agreed to? Should he tell her to give you back your money? Suppose she refuses, should he fire her? You were kicked out because you were causing a problem. You paid in advance, once you pay, the dance is over. I read about a guy an h8 n who paid, she went to "get a condom" and sat at the bar leaving him there in the VIP! You'll never go back to the cricket, well they don't want you back. You'll have the same thing happen at most strip clubs. Look back a few posts and read about how MM walked out on several dancers demanding up front payment.

    Why do dancers want to be paid in advance? They'll say they've had guys get dances and refuse to pay. Why do guys refuse to pay? It's because they didn't receive the agreed upon service. If you don't get the service you can just pay for the dances. She may tell the bouncer but he won't do anything. If a dancer has issues with several guys in one night the bouncers will tell her to stop causing problems.

    NEVER PAY IN ADVANCE! Leaving the money on the table is paying in advance.
    Well, I agree about never paying in advance. But I don't agree with the cause of being kicked out. First, I have never been kicked out of any club, event or anything in my entire life. And I am over 60. That is not my style or demeanor as I am a very laid back person.

    I did not expect anything from the manager except for him to say there isn't anything I can do about it. I am not ignorant. I only need to be asked or told once about an issue and generally I adjust. My tone to the manager was conversational not argumentative. The manager was just being a dick.

  12. #13522
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    A few weeks ago I went to BT's so my sick (ill) buddy could have some fun.

    Shot girl was good, a few tips and shots and groping, by the stage was allowed. Just ask first.

    We talk about GPS, now it is PPS (Platinum pussy syndrome). One girl offered $500. Others like shot girl would not go lower than $200. Though out call was available. I got my friend a lap dance with a, eh stripper (no tirs, but he loved her), $40. She kept trying to switch to &60. I was not going to fuss, he really liked her, and what the hell.

    While he was out I tried negotiating a tad heavier and could not get people to budge. However, talking to the seasoned vets in there, using money, has advantages.

    Shot girl and strippers gets drunker throughout the night. She is in her 30's teeth are not perfect but nice body and firm tits. She got as low as $175, wherever. She stated that most of the girls will drop prices through out the night. Throw some dollars at them and they will sit by you and let you feel around. She and another said be patient and you will get better deals.

    One thing I noticed on a Friday night was, it was packed but no one was using the VIP. I left at 11 pm.

    That's what happened, I rarely go to clubs so I have no idea if it aligns.
    So at bt's and flight club you can fuck shot girls in the club?

  13. #13521
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    A few weeks ago I went to BT's so my sick (ill) buddy could have some fun.

    Shot girl was good, a few tips and shots and groping, by the stage was allowed. Just ask first.

    We talk about GPS, now it is PPS (Platinum pussy syndrome). One girl offered $500. Others like shot girl would not go lower than $200. Though out call was available. I got my friend a lap dance with a, eh stripper (no tirs, but he loved her), $40. She kept trying to switch to &60. I was not going to fuss, he really liked her, and what the hell.

    While he was out I tried negotiating a tad heavier and could not get people to budge. However, talking to the seasoned vets in there, using money, has advantages.

    Shot girl and strippers gets drunker throughout the night. She is in her 30's teeth are not perfect but nice body and firm tits. She got as low as $175, wherever. She stated that most of the girls will drop prices through out the night. Throw some dollars at them and they will sit by you and let you feel around. She and another said be patient and you will get better deals.

    One thing I noticed on a Friday night was, it was packed but no one was using the VIP. I left at 11 pm.

    That's what happened, I rarely go to clubs so I have no idea if it aligns.
    Great report Thank you.

  14. #13520

    Ugh old man memory

    Quote Originally Posted by XMailMan  [View Original Post]
    Just curious what did the shot girl look like? Physical appearance wise?
    Let me see. Thin 5'6" wonky teeth but not too bad. B cup, nice legs, red or brown hair (was dark). Down river MILF comes to mind.

  15. #13519

    Shot Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    A few weeks ago I went to BT's so my sick (ill) buddy could have some fun.

    Shot girl was good, a few tips and shots and groping, by the stage was allowed. Just ask first.

    We talk about GPS, now it is PPS (Platinum pussy syndrome). One girl offered $500. Others like shot girl would not go lower than $200. Though out call was available. I got my friend a lap dance with a, eh stripper (no tirs, but he loved her), $40. She kept trying to switch to &60. I was not going to fuss, he really liked her, and what the hell.

    While he was out I tried negotiating a tad heavier and could not get people to budge. However, talking to the seasoned vets in there, using money, has advantages.

    Shot girl and strippers gets drunker throughout the night. She is in her 30's teeth are not perfect but nice body and firm tits. She got as low as $175, wherever. She stated that most of the girls will drop prices through out the night. Throw some dollars at them and they will sit by you and let you feel around. She and another said be patient and you will get better deals.

    One thing I noticed on a Friday night was, it was packed but no one was using the VIP. I left at 11 pm.

    That's what happened, I rarely go to clubs so I have no idea if it aligns.
    Just curious what did the shot girl look like? Physical appearance wise?

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