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09-08-21 22:55 #6353Senior Member

Posts: 475No, what you said was 100% self-righteous opinion based on nothing but conjecture without any supporting facts, and meant to try to guilt shame others into conforming with your misinformed demands. Too bad, it won't work anymore than the fear-mongering tactic will work in getting people to accept this administration's vaccine agenda.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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09-08-21 22:45 #6352Senior Member

Posts: 475Dude, you can't even get the acronymn right. I don't think you're even quaified to be a guest on the Jerry Springer show.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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09-08-21 18:19 #6351Senior Member

Posts: 307Vars
Vars is basically just the Jerry Springer Show of medicine.
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09-08-21 15:25 #6350Senior Member

Posts: 654Yeah your source isn't very reliable dude and also the election was not stolen you need to move on. 😁.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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09-08-21 15:20 #6349Senior Member

Posts: 654Yeah I doubt that.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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That was before antivaxxers came out of the basement and certain politicians making taking the shot become political.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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It's on the CDC site.
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Yep it's not that unbelievable anymore given that Jan 6 happened.
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No I am a man and identify as so and besides even if I was a woman it doesn't matter what I said was completely 100% true.
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09-08-21 13:56 #6348Senior Member

Posts: 1011VAERS data is under reported. Where's your link to this being unreliable? Never been at issue before. Trolls filling out this five page form and lying under the risk of a federal perjury charge?
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jsp
And:
Are you a female or identify as female? No grown man talks like that to another man unless you're sucking his dick. Right?
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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09-08-21 13:39 #6347Senior Member

Posts: 1011Elections Have Consequences. Stolen Elections Have Catastrophic Consequences
New poll from the piece of shit Orangeman bad uniparty kunts at the Economist have Biden's approvals at 39%. Biden is underwater on all issues from economy, immigration, China virus response, climate change, national security, Afghanistan etc. Poll shows Kamala Harris is more unpopular than Orangeman. This is terrible for Biden / Harris but what makes it horrible is that the Economist polled 10% more democrats than republicans, a D+10 sample at Dems 38%, republicans 28% and independent 34%. On this poll equal weighted. Biden's approval is actually in the 20%'s and Orangeman is twice as popular as Kamala. Biden stole the election. He has no base therefore no floor. His ability to govern is over.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/hlzpfsli...nTabReport.pdf
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09-08-21 12:36 #6346Senior Member

Posts: 475As I stated from the beginning, that's always been true of VAERS for every vaccine, and has been the case for decades. Nothing new under the sun, and nothing different that would make the numbers for these vaccines stick out like out a sore thumb, except for the fact that these vaccines have significantly higher reported adverse events- more in 7 months for these Covid vaccines than for all other vaccines combined in the 30 year history of VAERS. That's pretty astounding, and cannot be dismissed with your hand waving. I repeat, this is the gold standard for vaccine reporting.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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09-08-21 11:58 #6345Senior Member

Posts: 654The point of VAERS is to look for patterns and provide early detection of possible adverse events that were not seen in the clinical trials. The site explicitly says that it can't verify whether these adverse events were actually caused by vaccines.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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From the same CDC link.
VAERS Limitations
VAERS reports alone generally cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. Some reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. VAERS reports often lack contextual information, such as total vaccinations given or information on unvaccinated groups for comparison. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they may be subject to biases. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
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09-08-21 11:47 #6344Senior Member

Posts: 475
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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You need to stop talking out of your ass and making shit up. From the CDC site:
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ety/vaers.html
"Under Emergency Use Authorization, FDA requires healthcare professionals to report to VAERS certain adverse events that occur after COVID-19 vaccination. ".
"Vaccine safety experts review all reports of serious adverse events submitted to VAERS. A serious adverse event after vaccination is something that causes
Permanent disability
Hospitalization or an extended hospital stay (if vaccinated while in the hospital)
Life-threatening illness
Birth defects (congenital anomalies)
Death
When VAERS staff members follow-up on a report of a serious adverse event, they ask for the patient's medical records related to the event to learn more about what happened. ".
You need to back up your ridiculous bullshit claims, instead of just making crap up. You've done that multiple times now, along with posting false stories with claims made by fraudsters with completely falsified facts. Just like the ER rooms "deluged by Ivermectin overdoses" in Oklahoma, while state officials documented only a dozen reported calls since May, most of which consisted of only mild cases of dizzines or nausea. Again, you're just fed bullshit by the media, and you lap it and repeat it as if it's fact and you're knowledgeable on the subject, when in fact you're just displaying your ignorance on the matter.
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09-08-21 11:31 #6343Senior Member

Posts: 654No it's not, ANYONE can go that site and make a claim about having vaccine "side effects" I could go onto that site and claim that the vaccine turn me into the Hulk and it would accept it as legitimate. The CDC has stated multiple times that VAERS data is not reliable.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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09-08-21 11:18 #6342Senior Member

Posts: 475Completely disagree, as many VAERS reports are filled out by healthcare providers. This system has been used for decades by the CDC and is the gold standard used to measure adverse events for vaccines, and now all of a sudden, because huge spikes are seen in the data caused by these Covid vaccines, they are unreliable? Again, it's ironic and hypocritical how you talk about others dismissing data points that don't agree their point of view, yet you're the very first one to do so.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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To the contrary, most experts agree that VAERS system historically underreports at a rate anywhere from 1-10%. So you can take those numbers and multiply them by a factor of 10 or 100.
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09-08-21 09:49 #6341Senior Member

Posts: 654We talked about this VAERS data is completely unreliable and should not be taken seriously as most of those people are trolls.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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09-08-21 08:50 #6340Senior Member

Posts: 475So did these people:
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html
I don't ever think I'm untouchable- didn't before Covid and don't now. It's all about risk assessment. I'll be happy to take vaccines like this one, that make sense and actually prevent transmission, once they're tested and proven as they should be:
https://www.technologynetworks.com/b...mission-351955
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09-08-21 08:09 #6339Senior Member

Posts: 2351Still stuck in Middle school huh? Some of the adults here say it like is without a hint of your prepubescent gibberish BS. Based on the preponderance of your posts, there is no chance at all you could ever reach the "adult" level, it's always the same old childish, meaningless, empty rhetoric. It's ok though, as I realize this is the best you can do and like a few of the grown adults here, we are used to your infantile rants. TADA!
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