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  1. #13484
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    No worries. The stimulus checks are ending and unless Delta and Lambda put us in another lockdown, more strippers will start filtering back in. Competition will put things back on our side.
    But the stimulus checks and unemployment also ends for mongers. Supply and demand might not change.

  2. #13483

    Cricket

    Quote Originally Posted by Studly77  [View Original Post]
    Well, hard lessons learned today. After not paying up front agreed to set some money on the table. After a few minutes the dancer snatched the money and jetted. When I told the manager what happened he asked if I exposed myself in the VIP. Well, I did not lie and told him I did but he promptly said that was illegal and to get the heck out. He mentioned he could call the cops on me. Zero mention on the money and frankly he seemed like he did not give a fuck about my loss.

    Well, I am actually not mad as that was a real wake up call. It was cold and harsh but is now a brick wall between me and strip clubs. Hell would freeze over before I ever step foot in the Silver Cricket again. Maybe they don't want us there. No not maybe. Get the hell out means get out and stay out.

    As far as being ripped off that is a cold lesson too. First off, we should not have to give the women anything. It is they who are blackmailing us. I would never force a woman to do anything for romance, sex or whatever. They however do force us to pay or we end up being virgins. And yes, I have asked in the past for free and the answer was no. I did not ask everyone but it would probably be pointless anyway.

    So as of today all strip clubs are out. All generosity is gone to zero. Another cold day in hell before they get a dime from me.

    It is a win / win. I have many more things I need to save money for. They don't want you at the club if you "expose yourself in the VIP while getting a dance". And no I don't blame them because they are correct. We should not be in the VIP doing things like that.

    Cold slap in the face but a needed wakeup call.
    This happened to me at cricket a couple of years ago. It was clear to me that the manager was in on the scam. Never been back and never will be.

  3. #13482

    10 Tuesday scammer extras only no $10/ song count

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsc12  [View Original Post]
    Was at Bogarts once on $10 Tuesday and had the same discussion with a dancer. I watched her go with a older guy to the VIP and never saw her again for about a hour. When she came down I thought, wow that guy got his moneys worth or paid a good price for that amount of time. Girl makes her way over to me and I mentioned about her trip upstairs, said the guy did a $100 of $10 dances. She wasn't pleased that he wouldn't go for the upgrade, no matter how hard she tried.

    I hadn't seen her there before, so I assume a few freelancers work those nights expecting the numbers to work for them.
    After 3 songs, The really petite and skinny black girl dancing at bogarts now told me she doesn't honor $10 Tuesday pricing. She is there for extras only not 10 dollar dances. I loudly told her too late here is your 30 bucks get lost. With signs everywhere saying $10 dances on Tuesdays could management not take your side?

  4. #13481
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    No worries. The stimulus checks are ending and unless Delta and Lambda put us in another lockdown, more strippers will start filtering back in. Competition will put things back on our side.
    Yep, new dancers will start showing up within a year, the money is just too good for those ladies who are open minded, not squeamish, and actually like men and enjoy what they do! If they play their cards right they can be choosy and build up a decent clientele of regulars.

  5. #13480
    Quote Originally Posted by RayRaynor  [View Original Post]
    I can deal with long lines at McDonald's because they can't hire anyone but the stripper shortage needs to end!
    No worries. The stimulus checks are ending and unless Delta and Lambda put us in another lockdown, more strippers will start filtering back in. Competition will put things back on our side.

  6. #13479

    The damn Covid stimulus and employment checks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately it is a sellers market for every single commodity out there right now and everything is in short supply including houses, cars, bitcoin, groceries, you name it, everything! And of course this includes pussy, pussy is a commodity, always has been, always will, they know it and so do you, things will eventually even out and get back to normal but for the time being under these pandemic times, the sellers are in complete control.
    I can deal with long lines at McDonald's because they can't hire anyone but the stripper shortage needs to end!

  7. #13478
    Quote Originally Posted by Studly77  [View Original Post]
    Well, hard lessons learned today. After not paying up front agreed to set some money on the table. After a few minutes the dancer snatched the money and jetted. When I told the manager what happened he asked if I exposed myself in the VIP. Well, I did not lie and told him I did but he promptly said that was illegal and to get the heck out. He mentioned he could call the cops on me. Zero mention on the money and frankly he seemed like he did not give a fuck about my loss.

    Cold slap in the face but a needed wakeup call.
    Everyone knows what goes on there. It sounds like the manager is in on that scam. He's either getting a piece of the cash or dating the dancer.

    I'll cross the Criket off my list for the clubs to go back too.

  8. #13477

    Sellers market

    Unfortunately it is a sellers market for every single commodity out there right now and everything is in short supply including houses, cars, bitcoin, groceries, you name it, everything! And of course this includes pussy, pussy is a commodity, always has been, always will, they know it and so do you, things will eventually even out and get back to normal but for the time being under these pandemic times, the sellers are in complete control.

  9. #13476

    Dancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kesaneco  [View Original Post]
    That really sucks who was the dancer?
    Well, I am not 100% sure and I would not want to misquote but I think her name was Aliya. Shorter thin white girl with dark hair.

    Her eyes tell me she could have been a little high. Just my impression.

    Oddly, 2 dancers asked me my name first thing when they sat down. I don't care as I have nothing to hide. It is strange why our names would matter so much to them. Unless they are keeping a book on us.

    This one caught me completely off guard but I have read prior reports from guys at the Cricket with similar MO. I hope no one else gets ripped but eventually it will happen again to some unknowing soul.

  10. #13475

    Silver cricket

    Quote Originally Posted by Studly77  [View Original Post]
    Well, hard lessons learned today. After not paying up front agreed to set some money on the table. After a few minutes the dancer snatched the money and jetted. When I told the manager what happened he asked if I exposed myself in the VIP. Well, I did not lie and told him I did but he promptly said that was illegal and to get the heck out. He mentioned he could call the cops on me. Zero mention on the money and frankly he seemed like he did not give a fuck about my loss.

    Well, I am actually not mad as that was a real wake up call. It was cold and harsh but is now a brick wall between me and strip clubs. Hell would freeze over before I ever step foot in the Silver Cricket again. Maybe they don't want us there. No not maybe. Get the hell out means get out and stay out.

    As far as being ripped off that is a cold lesson too. First off, we should not have to give the women anything. It is they who are blackmailing us. I would never force a woman to do anything for romance, sex or whatever. They however do force us to pay or we end up being virgins. And yes, I have asked in the past for free and the answer was no. I did not ask everyone but it would probably be pointless anyway.

    So as of today all strip clubs are out. All generosity is gone to zero. Another cold day in hell before they get a dime from me.

    It is a win / win. I have many more things I need to save money for. They don't want you at the club if you "expose yourself in the VIP while getting a dance". And no I don't blame them because they are correct. We should not be in the VIP doing things like that.

    Cold slap in the face but a needed wakeup call.
    That really sucks who was the dancer?

  11. #13474

    Don't pay up front. Ripped off and promptly told to get the hell out

    Well, hard lessons learned today. After not paying up front agreed to set some money on the table. After a few minutes the dancer snatched the money and jetted. When I told the manager what happened he asked if I exposed myself in the VIP. Well, I did not lie and told him I did but he promptly said that was illegal and to get the heck out. He mentioned he could call the cops on me. Zero mention on the money and frankly he seemed like he did not give a fuck about my loss.

    Well, I am actually not mad as that was a real wake up call. It was cold and harsh but is now a brick wall between me and strip clubs. Hell would freeze over before I ever step foot in the Silver Cricket again. Maybe they don't want us there. No not maybe. Get the hell out means get out and stay out.

    As far as being ripped off that is a cold lesson too. First off, we should not have to give the women anything. It is they who are blackmailing us. I would never force a woman to do anything for romance, sex or whatever. They however do force us to pay or we end up being virgins. And yes, I have asked in the past for free and the answer was no. I did not ask everyone but it would probably be pointless anyway.

    So as of today all strip clubs are out. All generosity is gone to zero. Another cold day in hell before they get a dime from me.

    It is a win / win. I have many more things I need to save money for. They don't want you at the club if you "expose yourself in the VIP while getting a dance". And no I don't blame them because they are correct. We should not be in the VIP doing things like that.

    Cold slap in the face but a needed wakeup call.

  12. #13473
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    Pay up front don't do it. I was tempted but walked away.

    I was recently in bts and criket.

    I found Winter attractive and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I liked Chloe even more and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I left frustrated and drove over to Criket. I talked to Leela, an ex Flight Club girl. We negotiated to go to the VIP and she at least saved me the trouble of walking in and walking out by telling me at the table that she insists on payment up front.

    Perhaps the session would have been ok with one or all of these girls. They are three attractive girls in my humble opinion. I know beauty is subjective. I am curious if others are having successful session with them.

    I seriously considered trying and seeing what happened, but I have had too many bad experiences with paying up front and that I decided it was better not to do a session the VIP.

    I encourage others to behave similarly.

    MM.
    Never have, never will pay up front. Best I will do is show them the cash, which I have no issue doing. My last 5 experiences, only one wanted payment upfront, she settled for just seeing that I had the funds.

  13. #13472
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    Pay up front don't do it. I was tempted but walked away.

    I was recently in bts and criket.

    I found Winter attractive and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I liked Chloe even more and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I left frustrated and drove over to Criket. I talked to Leela, an ex Flight Club girl. We negotiated to go to the VIP and she at least saved me the trouble of walking in and walking out by telling me at the table that she insists on payment up front.

    Perhaps the session would have been ok with one or all of these girls. They are three attractive girls in my humble opinion. I know beauty is subjective. I am curious if others are having successful session with them.

    I seriously considered trying and seeing what happened, but I have had too many bad experiences with paying up front and that I decided it was better not to do a session the VIP.

    I encourage others to behave similarly.

    MM.
    Agreed. Same thing happened to me at BT's recently - "Thai" and some girl supposedly from Florida, can't remember name, both did the money up front speech. The good news is with Thai, I convinced her to compromise, and leave the donation in a spot visible to both of us. However, it was still off-putting enough that I didn't really enjoy the session and won't repeat with her. I walked out on the Florida girl. Not really loving BT's lately.

  14. #13471

    Pay up front don't do it.

    Pay up front don't do it. I was tempted but walked away.

    I was recently in bts and criket.

    I found Winter attractive and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I liked Chloe even more and negotiated to go to the VIP with her, as soon as we hit the room she asked for payment and I could not persuade her otherwise and walked out.

    I left frustrated and drove over to Criket. I talked to Leela, an ex Flight Club girl. We negotiated to go to the VIP and she at least saved me the trouble of walking in and walking out by telling me at the table that she insists on payment up front.

    Perhaps the session would have been ok with one or all of these girls. They are three attractive girls in my humble opinion. I know beauty is subjective. I am curious if others are having successful session with them.

    I seriously considered trying and seeing what happened, but I have had too many bad experiences with paying up front and that I decided it was better not to do a session the VIP.

    I encourage others to behave similarly.

    MM.

  15. #13470
    Quote Originally Posted by Stewy56  [View Original Post]
    Was in town for business and stopped in the Flight Club. Chatted with a very pretty face gal who had GPS syndrome. $500 for everything covered. (I'm sure she gets a few who will pay that). Said she made about 150 k her first year. Bought her a few drinks and I agreed to just a "dance" paid $25.00 for the room and when we got situated she said " I'm so horny, I want to fuck your brains out". Very cute gal, but I politely declined and said "I respect you too much to fuck you for $$ She was immediately offended and I gave her 50.00 just as a courtesy. I didn't necessarily mean that I "respected her" but she was cool and it was mostly the 500.00 that turned me off as many other good looking gals provide the same for 2-3 hundred. Dunno why she reacted and left the room like she did. ? Thoughts?
    Stewy, alot to chew on here.

    First don't ever believe what a peeler tells you about money. She rarely gets $500. Maybe once in a great while, however she is telling all the other girls she is getting $500, because she once got $500.

    As for $150 K, it is possible, but not that likely, and the important piece of information she gave you is she made that her first year, when she was youngest, newest, and hadn't hustled a bunch of guys yet. Typically the peelers make the most money the first year and every year after that they make less, because, they are older, less fresh, and a bunch of new girls start every year that steal their regular customers. There are a few exceptions to this of girls who give outstanding service, the illusion they love what they do and they build a base of regulars that sustain them and see them often. They also typically give those regular's a discount on pricing because they have figured out that 10 sessions times $200 is way more money than 1 session at $500. Most strippers spend everything they make so they need new money coming in all the time.

    Now let's address your girls behavior. She is motivated by the tip out. You don't know if she made her tip out yet or not. Meaning how many guys she saw before you. Tip out at Flight Club should be about $150. Someone can correct me if I am wrong on the number.

    Her normal mode of operation is to tell guys her price is $500 but when they get to the VIP she is horny and will do it for $200. This way she tells the other girls she told you the price is $500, and if anyone is listening which they are (dancers and waitresses) they can confirm what you she said. What you negotiate later is between you and her.

    Case 1. She has not gone to the VIP yet tonight. It she never goes to the VIP she only has to pay the tip out for dancing on stage, but not for using the VIP room. When you declined her offer if you only give her $25 for 1 song, that does not cover her tip out and she owes the club money, or you put her negative for the night. She may have told them you changed your mind and she shouldn't be charged her tip out.

    Case 2. She has already done a VIP session or multiple session and covered her tip out. She doesn't need to pay anymore, so whatever you give her is pure profit, even if it is only $25.

    Case 3. Another guy took her to the VIP for only 1 dance so she is already negative and you come along and she needs you to pay her more to cover her tip out.

    I can assure you these girls actions are typically reasonable, you just need all the variables.

    Lastly if you go for one dance, why are you paying her $50. You should stick to $25. Or in this case you don't even have to pay that as she didn't complete the dance or make it to the half way point of the dance.

    Anyway getting her to offer $200 is a good price for Flight Club, I stopped going to Flight Club as I got tired of all the negotiation to try and get a girls down to that price. You perhaps are better looking than me.

    MM.

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