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  1. #3348

    Want to know if this provider is legit

    Hey guys, a couple of days ago I saw this escort named Ashley on nycescortmodels.com (link is https://nycescortmodels.com/model/ashley) and decided to send her a message. When I tried to arrange an appointment with her she demanded a $100 booking fee for a $250 an hour incall. Now I understand why she was asking for this fee as she wants serious customers but I can't just Venmo / Zelle a person I've never seen a $100. I tried to look for any other ads she's posted or any social media she has but I found nothing. Because of this, I asked her for some photo or video verification to confirm that she is the girl in the photos but she wouldn't comply. I didn't want anything sexual, a selfie of her face alone would've been fine. I have not sent the fee but I still want to book with this escort. Can anyone help identify who she is, if it's a fake ad, if she's a scammer, etc. Before I make a dumb decision and lose money.

  2. #3347
    Quote Originally Posted by TripTranceTrav  [View Original Post]
    Just tried setting up an appointment with Betty. I knew she had a screening process, and everything was going along smoothly. She asked me about myself and what I did, I even sent her my username on TER. Then she demands to see all my social media profiles and Linkedin account. What?! I told her I would be willing to send her a picture of myself, but asking for the rest was a little too invasive. Says she won't invite a stranger over without knowing who they are. Honey, that's part of the job description. I highly doubt the hundreds of people that have reviewed her were willing to give up that kind of information as well. She got super passive aggressive too, WTF.
    I saw her once at least 15 years ago. There was no screening at that time but no one was really screening back then. I had a great time with her but she's got to be in her 60's by now and the pictures she posts are the same pictures she was using 15 years ago. That said if you want an amazing BBBJ she's the one.

  3. #3346
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/ri...t-says/814864/

    That unfortunate. I saw her ads on Tryst. Just didn't see her since I been avoiding outcalls and I felt 600/ hh was too much. This story in the beginning details so they haven't even confirmed if she was killed by that gang member. Only thing confirmed is that she entered the Wall Street building with the gang member and was wheeled out in a barrel.

    Be safe out there. Been seeing a lot of gang related stuff to escorting make the news over the last month. This like the 4th story now. Which been kinda been confirming what I been seeing when I have gone to a few spots across the city. But I have to play dumb to it all since if you ask questions. Like how did you get black eye / bruises or why did you go to another room to hand someone the donation I give you. Those situations led them to think I was a cop. So I stopped asking.
    Surprised to see a high-end escort hanging out with local thugs. Were they clients or pimps? I hope we'll find out soon enough.

    A girl charging oodles of money provides no guarantee that she's more sophisticated or above the riff-raff, contrary to how they present themselves on Eros or Tryst.

  4. #3345
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    Posts: 1040

    Escort died in Manhattan and was stuffed in barrel and dumped in New Jersey.

    https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/ri...t-says/814864/

    That unfortunate. I saw her ads on Tryst. Just didn't see her since I been avoiding outcalls and I felt 600/ hh was too much. This story in the beginning details so they haven't even confirmed if she was killed by that gang member. Only thing confirmed is that she entered the Wall Street building with the gang member and was wheeled out in a barrel.

    Be safe out there. Been seeing a lot of gang related stuff to escorting make the news over the last month. This like the 4th story now. Which been kinda been confirming what I been seeing when I have gone to a few spots across the city. But I have to play dumb to it all since if you ask questions. Like how did you get black eye / bruises or why did you go to another room to hand someone the donation I give you. Those situations led them to think I was a cop. So I stopped asking.

  5. #3344
    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodViper  [View Original Post]
    Looks like * is banning certain content on their site. I wonder what happens to this industry. Do prices go down?

    https://uproxx.com/viral/onlyfans-ba...ent-explained/
    As I understand it, the problem is with the banks and credit cards. Many of the banks won't allow credit card activity for porn. American Express started this years ago, and a lot of sites simply dropped Amex as a potential form of payment. But now, a lot of the big banks and credit card issuers are taking the same stance. Without being able to take credit cards, the sites die so they have to eliminate the porn.

    Eventually, this means that sites like Streamate and Chaturbate and MyFreeCams will go completely away.

  6. #3343

    *

    Looks like * is banning certain content on their site. I wonder what happens to this industry. Do prices go down?

    https://uproxx.com/viral/onlyfans-ba...ent-explained/

  7. #3342
    Quote Originally Posted by TripTranceTrav  [View Original Post]
    Just tried setting up an appointment with Betty. I knew she had a screening process, and everything was going along smoothly. She asked me about myself and what I did, I even sent her my username on TER. Then she demands to see all my social media profiles and Linkedin account. What?! I told her I would be willing to send her a picture of myself, but asking for the rest was a little too invasive. Says she won't invite a stranger over without knowing who they are. Honey, that's part of the job description. I highly doubt the hundreds of people that have reviewed her were willing to give up that kind of information as well. She got super passive aggressive too, WTF.
    When I met her years ago all I gave was a couple of references I guess she changed her policy. When they start asking those things I usually stop the dialog.

  8. #3341

    Betty SNJ

    Just tried setting up an appointment with Betty. I knew she had a screening process, and everything was going along smoothly. She asked me about myself and what I did, I even sent her my username on TER. Then she demands to see all my social media profiles and Linkedin account. What?! I told her I would be willing to send her a picture of myself, but asking for the rest was a little too invasive. Says she won't invite a stranger over without knowing who they are. Honey, that's part of the job description. I highly doubt the hundreds of people that have reviewed her were willing to give up that kind of information as well. She got super passive aggressive too, WTF.

  9. #3340

    ISO doubles

    Will be in the area Wednesday and wanted to see if anyone could recommend anybody that does doubles.

    I've already done a double a Lear but want to try someone new.

    Could also head over to NJ if there's anyone there that also provides double.

  10. #3339
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    Yep. Over the span of like 16 months businesses went from we arent hiring right now. Or we are cutting our staff. To please work for us. We will pay you more.

    The women left whose rates are still in 50-150 for a ss/hh get the traffic that they can turn you down if you have issue with their no list. Since 10 other guys probably texting her at same time. As others said if they charging more for example 800 for a hh they then don't need to see as many men. So as long as 1 or 2 guys a week agree to their no list or rates they good for the week. Back when the supply of women was massive many actually wanted regulars since they didn't know when next person would contact them. Which looking back made so much sense. Since on craigslist/backpage in that era if a woman made an ad she could be put off the front page within 20 minutes. Nowadays they be on the front page or first 3 pages all day. Hopefully it gets better I want more options this game be boring seeing same women over and over.
    True enough. I left my job for a new company recently. When I told the new company what I wanted they came back with a better offer than what I had asked for. And you are correct. We're really not seeing much in the was of new women around here. It's literally the same people who I've either seen or don't want to. I have two locals girls who are fantastic but I'm getting bored with them. I have three others who are from out of town and have reasonable rates who I'll see when they visit. The past few weeks I've been trying to find someone new who's reasonable and really haven't done anything besides waste my own time. I'm actually considering a 500 girl just for something new but I can't quite bring myself to spend that kind of cash.

  11. #3338
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully it gets better I want more options this game be boring seeing same women over and over.
    I agree. But I don't think things will improve for at least another year. Inflation is a very real thing that takes time to spread through different sectors of the economy.

    What to do until then? Start talking to civilians. If your game is off, practice at strip clubs. I've developed so much game dealing with strippers who know how to game men. Learn from the best.

  12. #3337
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1040
    Quote Originally Posted by Nsugen  [View Original Post]
    I agree with the general intent of your post. Mongers are sorta SOL as of right now. Not much we can do. Things will eventually normalize, but not anytime soon.

    On the bright side, at least we don't live in Afghanistan.
    Yep. Over the span of like 16 months businesses went from we arent hiring right now. Or we are cutting our staff. To please work for us. We will pay you more.

    The women left whose rates are still in 50-150 for a ss/hh get the traffic that they can turn you down if you have issue with their no list. Since 10 other guys probably texting her at same time. As others said if they charging more for example 800 for a hh they then don't need to see as many men. So as long as 1 or 2 guys a week agree to their no list or rates they good for the week. Back when the supply of women was massive many actually wanted regulars since they didn't know when next person would contact them. Which looking back made so much sense. Since on craigslist/backpage in that era if a woman made an ad she could be put off the front page within 20 minutes. Nowadays they be on the front page or first 3 pages all day. Hopefully it gets better I want more options this game be boring seeing same women over and over.

  13. #3336

    Provider Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    What is happening post pandemic IMO feels like it has tipped the balance toward the providers having an increased sense of worth. Maybe you can find exceptions but majority will have these new prices. Back during the housing crisis time period of 2007-2010. A lot of people who lost their jobs didn't get much help so that flooded the escort sites with women desperate to do anything to get by. Back in those days craigslist regularly had women doing BBJ, BBFS, and other extras all included just to get their phone bill or rent paid. And if you were pleasant and treated them well they'd hit you up to see you again. Sometimes for less or same amount with an extra. Like going from not doing to BBJ to saying ok if you see me again I will do BBJ. Every week there was at least 50-100 new women in every single borough to choose from during that era which kinda played to our favor. Since if we turned them down they might not get another reply or help that day. So they were more likely to agree to more stuff in hopes of you seeing them regularly.

    With this pandemic / crisis pretty much everyone received some form of bail out or help. PPP loans, mortgage forbearance, eviction bans, 600 a week unemployment boosts, $600, $1200, and $1400 stimulus checks extra if you have kids. Stock market had greatest bull run ever. Now fast food and other places desperate to hire people they willing to pay $15-20 an hour. Even higher raises for the higher paying jobs. So you have women retiring from sex work for safety reasons or because they can make good money at a job / UI benefits. So $100-200 doesn't cut it for them anymore. On the monger side everything got shut down so there were not many places to spend money. This heavily favors the women. Given nowadays you lucky if an escort site gets 10 new women a week compared to the 50-100 a week back in 2007-2010. So it the same amount of men or even more men going at less women. So they arent really looking for regulars since another guy will try to see them or agree to their no's, poor service, or hiked rates.

    Overall I'd hope for an industry wide price decrease but that would take an influx in the supply of women. And I just don't see that any time soon. Women have options right now that they don't need to escort if they don't want to. From just applying to jobs that are desperate for workers. My local Mcdonalds willing to pay 20 an hour and is giving $100 if you show up for interview for example. If they want to have a FWB who also gives them money they can go on Tinder or any other dating app. OF/Cam sites has also been an option. Which has really took out the competition. So they can raise prices and offer less since. As opposed to the Recession in 2007-2010 where Tinder didn't even exist back then. It was either craiglist / backpage or hope you get a job back then for women.
    With the exception of some AMPs and UTR escorts in the Tri-State area, you are not going to find many providers offering FS for $100 - $200 these days. You will have to monger outside the USA (Brazil, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica, Thailand, and Philippines) to get good, quality service at those rates.

  14. #3335
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    Overall I'd hope for an industry wide price decrease but that would take an influx in the supply of women. And I just don't see that any time soon. Women have options right now that they don't need to escort if they don't want to. From just applying to 9-5 jobs that are desperate for workers. If they want to have a FWB who also gives them money they can go on Tinder or any other dating app. OF/Cam sites has also been an option. Which has really took out the competition. So they can raise prices and offer less since. As opposed to the Recession in 2007-2010 where Tinder didn't even exist back then. It was either craiglist / backpage or hope you get a job back then for women.
    I agree with the general intent of your post. Mongers are sorta SOL as of right now. Not much we can do. Things will eventually normalize, but not anytime soon.

    On the bright side, at least we don't live in Afghanistan.

  15. #3334
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1040
    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynMatt  [View Original Post]
    I think what happened is two things:

    1) Some girls are trying to see less people but make the same money. And there are enough guys will to pay a premium that it's working for at least some of them.

    2) Since pricing on sites like Tryst is pretty transparent, other women are seeing prices go up and adjusting accordingly assuming they can get the same amounts.

    And for me the women who are more reasonable I seem to find unattractive or everything I want to do is either a no or extra. Or they host in a really inconvenient location deep in Brooklyn or Queens. I found two great sounding women this weekend but it would take me over an hour to get to them. Over two hours of travel time for a one hour appointment and roughly 3. 5 hours of my day is gone.

    And top it off, if I'm going to spend 500 plus to see someone, you might as well go to a bar, start buying rounds and someone will come home with you for the night and for free. So I'm rethinking this whole thing unless prices start to come back to normal.
    What is happening post pandemic IMO feels like it has tipped the balance toward the providers having an increased sense of worth. Maybe you can find exceptions but majority will have these new prices. Back during the housing crisis time period of 2007-2010. A lot of people who lost their jobs didn't get much help so that flooded the escort sites with women desperate to do anything to get by. Back in those days craigslist regularly had women doing BBJ, BBFS, and other extras all included just to get their phone bill or rent paid. And if you were pleasant and treated them well they'd hit you up to see you again. Sometimes for less or same amount with an extra. Like going from not doing to BBJ to saying ok if you see me again I will do BBJ. Every week there was at least 50-100 new women in every single borough to choose from during that era which kinda played to our favor. Since if we turned them down they might not get another reply or help that day. So they were more likely to agree to more stuff in hopes of you seeing them regularly.

    With this pandemic / crisis pretty much everyone received some form of bail out or help. PPP loans, mortgage forbearance, eviction bans, 600 a week unemployment boosts, $600, $1200, and $1400 stimulus checks extra if you have kids. Stock market had greatest bull run ever. Now fast food and other places desperate to hire people they willing to pay $15-20 an hour. Even higher raises for the higher paying jobs. So you have women retiring from sex work for safety reasons or because they can make good money at a job / UI benefits. So $100-200 doesn't cut it for them anymore. On the monger side everything got shut down so there were not many places to spend money. This heavily favors the women. Given nowadays you lucky if an escort site gets 10 new women a week compared to the 50-100 a week back in 2007-2010. So it the same amount of men or even more men going at less women. So they arent really looking for regulars since another guy will try to see them or agree to their no's, poor service, or hiked rates.

    Overall I'd hope for an industry wide price decrease but that would take an influx in the supply of women. And I just don't see that any time soon. Women have options right now that they don't need to escort if they don't want to. From just applying to jobs that are desperate for workers. My local Mcdonalds willing to pay 20 an hour and is giving $100 if you show up for interview for example. If they want to have a FWB who also gives them money they can go on Tinder or any other dating app. OF/Cam sites has also been an option. Which has really took out the competition. So they can raise prices and offer less since. As opposed to the Recession in 2007-2010 where Tinder didn't even exist back then. It was either craiglist / backpage or hope you get a job back then for women.

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