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  1. #1100
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    That website is about as reliable for health info as mojovillage is for finding real providers.

    The doctor cole who wrote that article also treated Covid patients with hydroxychloroquine. It wouldn't surprise me if that doctor also considered treating patients by injecting them with disinfectants like bleach after it was suggested by a certain high profile individual in a news conference.

    https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/bell-c...oxychloroquine

    Quote Originally Posted by Crush1238  [View Original Post]

  2. #1099
    Quote Originally Posted by Crush1238  [View Original Post]
    So, with "only" 600,000+ dead out of 328 M people in this country, at what survival rate or how many total dead would you think it's worth the "risk" to take the vaccine?

    About half of the country, 165 M people, have received the COVID vaccine. How many people have died directly as a result?

    And one thing your post hasn't taken into account are the limited hospital resources we have. I can speak first hand about seeing full ICU's and converted hospital floors with overworked staff needed to treat these patients last year at the height of the pandemic.

    Do you think these "America's Frontline Doctors" will advise the people that they are telling not to get vaccinated if they do end up getting COVID and and are having trouble breathing (because their SpO2 has dropped into the 70's), "No need to call 911 or go to the hospital, you have a 99.9% survival rate. " I feel like that would only be fair to the RN's, RT's, pulmonologists, hospitalists and most importantly, the non-COVID related patients that need those ICU beds and the attention of the aforementioned staff.

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/90536

    I've spoken to doctors that have told me in no uncertain terms that as they see the number of COVID patients rise again, it's the unvaccinated that are getting admitted. The few "breakthrough" cases of the vaccinated are the ones that get to go home with flu or cold like symptoms. Since you brought up survival rates:

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ion-death.html

    https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/

    The reason that we can't beyond this and to where we need to be is because people have made public health political and continue to spread misinformation.

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  4. #1097
    Quote Originally Posted by Joesun1  [View Original Post]
    You guys are killing me here are the facts 99.3 percent of hospitalizations are unvaxxed people. All other cases are everybody. Here's what you guys ain't understanding it's not a vaccine it's an immunization to boost your immune system against covid no one ever said if you get the vaccine that you wouldn't get it. All it does is keep you out of the hospital and fight covid and get over it faster!
    Really dude? Well take a look at this short clip with dum dum speaking. https://rumble.com/vk6iu8-biden-clai...accinated.html.

  5. #1096
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    Jc

    You guys are killing me here are the facts 99.3 percent of hospitalizations are unvaxxed people. All other cases are everybody. Here's what you guys ain't understanding it's not a vaccine it's an immunization to boost your immune system against covid no one ever said if you get the vaccine that you wouldn't get it. All it does is keep you out of the hospital and fight covid and get over it faster!

  6. #1095
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    Re: Exactly

    They're not telling us anything new. But what they are doing is selectively reporting numbers to deliberately misrepresent the actual risks and to propagate unnecessary fears.

    No vaccine is 100% effective, but these mRNA vaccines exceeded all expectations and are amazingly effective against Covid, including the "highly contagious and deadly" delta variant. It makes me laugh that you can't hear the delta variant mentioned on the news without those words preceding it. For all practical purposes, fully vaccinated people no longer need to be concerned about Covid and can treat it just like any of the other common communicable respiratory infections that go around every fall and winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerOver  [View Original Post]
    So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

    Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/brea...-positive.html

    You know what that means? It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive.

    People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol

  7. #1094

    Research

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerOver  [View Original Post]
    So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

    Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/brea...-positive.html

    You know what that means? It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive.

    People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol
    But I Googled it. . . .
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 3E099350-4A39-4B3A-8B11-976E1AB33FDE.jpg‎   C7783098-68E8-4247-A1B5-51271A118CFA.jpg‎  

  8. #1093

    Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Dac007  [View Original Post]
    No, go look up the numbers, I believe it's something like 98% of all new cases are non vaccinated people. Folks just want to highlight the tiny number of vaccinated people who get it to defend their "vax doesn't work / matter" narrative.
    So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

    Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/brea...-positive.html

    You know what that means? It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive.

    People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol

  9. #1092
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegularJoe21  [View Original Post]
    Meh.

    I got the vaccine months ago. So not an anti vaxxer. That being said, they are claiming many of the new cases HAD the vaccine (so not complete immunity).

    And bottom line the mask mandates are nothing more than theater to keep everyone reminded.

    Of the plague around every corner.

    After all. Midterms are just 15.

    Months away. And THAT is the true reason for the continued restrictions.
    No, go look up the numbers, I believe it's something like 98% of all new cases are non vaccinated people. Folks just want to highlight the tiny number of vaccinated people who get it to defend their "vax doesn't work / matter" narrative.

  10. #1091
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    Almost true but,

    Quote Originally Posted by Trypt  [View Original Post]
    Your body "adjusts" by being exposed to the virus and developing antibodies and immunity. For anybody who's been vaccinated or had Covid, it already is just like a common cold! And since vaccines are now readily available to anybody that wants one, there is no need for any more mandates!
    Quote Originally Posted by RegularJoe21  [View Original Post]
    Meh.

    I got the vaccine months ago. So not an anti vaxxer. That being said, they are claiming many of the new cases HAD the vaccine (so not complete immunity).

    And bottom line the mask mandates are nothing more than theater to keep everyone reminded.

    Of the plague around every corner.

    After all. Midterms are just 15.

    Months away. And THAT is the true reason for the continued restrictions.
    The Vaccine isn't a vaccine at all, it's an immunization and it boosts your immune system to fight off Covid. But yet they're spreading propaganda that all the new cases are from people getting the Vaccine LOL. Duh no one ever said that you won't still get Covid the Immunization is basically to fight off Covid faster and keep you out of the Hospital. Now for real truth of all the new Hospitalizations 99.2 percent of the people are unvaccinated but of course the propaganda machine won't tell you that!

  11. #1090
    Quote Originally Posted by Dac007  [View Original Post]
    But you have a bunch of idiots that after damn near a year think the vaccine is dangerous. People create the most insane conspiracy theories. A lot of my friends use the "remember the Tuskegee experiment". WTH, they want everybody to get vaccinated, not just one group. As long as we have a huge group of people that won't get the vaccine, be ready for more BS.
    Meh.

    I got the vaccine months ago. So not an anti vaxxer. That being said, they are claiming many of the new cases HAD the vaccine (so not complete immunity).

    And bottom line the mask mandates are nothing more than theater to keep everyone reminded.

    Of the plague around every corner.

    After all. Midterms are just 15.

    Months away. And THAT is the true reason for the continued restrictions.

  12. #1089
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    Posts: 1568
    Quote Originally Posted by Trypt  [View Original Post]
    Your body "adjusts" by being exposed to the virus and developing antibodies and immunity. For anybody who's been vaccinated or had Covid, it already is just like a common cold! And since vaccines are now readily available to anybody that wants one, there is no need for any more mandates!
    But you have a bunch of idiots that after damn near a year think the vaccine is dangerous. People create the most insane conspiracy theories. A lot of my friends use the "remember the Tuskegee experiment". WTH, they want everybody to get vaccinated, not just one group. As long as we have a huge group of people that won't get the vaccine, be ready for more BS.

  13. #1088
    Best bagels in vegas? The Vegas Test Kitchen in downtown.

  14. #1087
    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    Perfect example I was gambling at RW other day and that free cart for beers, water, soda stopped next to me at the slot machines. Two younger males one hispanic and asian both got water and a beer and walked away without tipping. The middle aged lady just smirked and rolled along to next thirsty gambler.
    I don't want to kick off a crazy discussion, but are the races of those two guys relevant? I see plenty of white guys do the same shit.

  15. #1086
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    Posts: 444
    Your body "adjusts" by being exposed to the virus and developing antibodies and immunity. For anybody who's been vaccinated or had Covid, it already is just like a common cold! And since vaccines are now readily available to anybody that wants one, there is no need for any more mandates!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joesun1  [View Original Post]
    To hear that but yea I agree Covid is probably here to stay however as time goes on and our body adjust to Covid it should just turn into another common cold!

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