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  1. #12127

    The Selfie request advice

    I appreciate AdorableRose's input. But to be clear I advise that only when I'm reaching out to a complete unknown. It's after I've done all my homework and can't find reviews or other known history on a woman. Especially when the pictures in the ad look like a model.

    Asking 20 questions, requesting a confirmation pic, etc from a well known & reviewed provider is a definite faux pa and highly discouraged. I've posted all that in the New Member Guide a number of different times on how to contact a provider without her ignoring you.

    And while some real providers may not send a face selfie, many, I mean a vast majority of legit providers will upon request. I understand Roses concern, but this advice is for Mongers to avoid getting scammed or time wasted. Not to mention the simple fact that most escorts already have their face pic and phone number plastered all over the internet in sex ads already. So good luck with that if you are unfortunate enough to get caught in a sting. Your phone will be confiscated as evidence along with 100's of texts supporting the prosecution's case.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdorableRose  [View Original Post]
    I wholeheartedly disagree Private Parts. If a monger cannot respect my discretion, I will not add to his picture collection. As far as I am concerned, the only one who would request or even require that I send them a face picture would be a cop. If I send a selfie and it ends up being a sting, that just makes it all the more easy for them to arrest me. Your advice isn't very good because it doesn't respect the provider's need for discretion. Also, you never want to speak of "cash" or even electronic payments directly. They can get you with solicitation even for simply having the conversation to set things up. You don't even have to go through with anything for them to charge you. Stay safe out there guys!
    Last edited by PrivateParts; 07-08-21 at 18:27. Reason: Typos. I’m sure there are more

  2. #12126

    Take a breath!

    Quote Originally Posted by DTownOg710  [View Original Post]
    We're not out here asking for selfies with a face photo. We're asking for unique pose to prove authenticity. If they want to send it with a face more power to them it makes our lives easier for finding real legit woman in a place where it's mostly scams and bullshit. To many fakes with fake photos to take chances. If a girl doesn't want to send a verification picture doing something I ask face or no face then she doesn't need my or anyone else's money. The ones who have nothing to hide and are real and legit for the most part have no problem doing so. Also private parts information is perfectly worded and stated for safety. He also wasn't saying to cash app ladies money prior because it's a most likely going to be a fuck you over type situation. He was advising against it. So really your whole post about disagreements with his post is mute and not needed as are most of what else I've read that you've posted. Pretty sure your status on here is advertiser so maybe you should stick to just that. We're out here helping each other stay safe and protected and to not loose money on bullshit and bullshit people. Has nothing to do with discretion we all want discretion and safety that's why we do what we do and steps we take to stay safe.
    I can see both sides of this debate. You can't say with certainty that "we're not out here asking for selfies with a face photo. " You can only speak to what you, yourself ask for. Rose, on the other hand, knows full well what mongers are asking her for. I suspect the lies somewhere in the middle. I don't feel that it's too much to ask of either party to ask for some kind of verification / screening information short of face photos or drivers' licenses. Everyone wants to be safe and discrete.

  3. #12125
    Quote Originally Posted by DTownOg710  [View Original Post]
    We're not out here asking for selfies with a face photo. We're asking for unique pose to prove authenticity. If they want to send it with a face more power to them it makes our lives easier for finding real legit woman in a place where it's mostly scams and bullshit. To many fakes with fake photos to take chances. If a girl doesn't want to send a verification picture doing something I ask face or no face then she doesn't need my or anyone else's money. The ones who have nothing to hide and are real and legit for the most part have no problem doing so. Also private parts information is perfectly worded and stated for safety. He also wasn't saying to cash app ladies money prior because it's a most likely going to be a fuck you over type situation. He was advising against it. So really your whole post about disagreements with his post is mute and not needed as are most of what else I've read that you've posted. Pretty sure your status on here is advertiser so maybe you should stick to just that. We're out here helping each other stay safe and protected and to not loose money on bullshit and bullshit people. Has nothing to do with discretion we all want discretion and safety that's why we do what we do and steps we take to stay safe.
    He specifically says that he wants a post selfie. A selfie is a face picture. Also I was agreeing with him in that you shouldn't send anybody anything ahead of time and adding my two cents that you should not use electronic payments whatsoever. If you don't like my opinion, keep it to yourself because you obviously didn't read his post or my post. Any girl who would send a selfie is either a cop or is asking to be set up. My opinion is valid.

  4. #12124

    Did you even read his post? Private parts hit the nail on the head with facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdorableRose  [View Original Post]
    I wholeheartedly disagree Private Parts. If a monger cannot respect my discretion, I will not add to his picture collection. As far as I am concerned, the only one who would request or even require that I send them a face picture would be a cop. If I send a selfie and it ends up being a sting, that just makes it all the more easy for them to arrest me. Your advice isn't very good because it doesn't respect the provider's need for discretion. Also, you never want to speak of "cash" or even electronic payments directly. They can get you with solicitation even for simply having the conversation to set things up. You don't even have to go through with anything for them to charge you. Stay safe out there guys!
    We're not out here asking for selfies with a face photo. We're asking for unique pose to prove authenticity. If they want to send it with a face more power to them it makes our lives easier for finding real legit woman in a place where it's mostly scams and bullshit. To many fakes with fake photos to take chances. If a girl doesn't want to send a verification picture doing something I ask face or no face then she doesn't need my or anyone else's money. The ones who have nothing to hide and are real and legit for the most part have no problem doing so. Also private parts information is perfectly worded and stated for safety. He also wasn't saying to cash app ladies money prior because it's a most likely going to be a fuck you over type situation. He was advising against it. So really your whole post about disagreements with his post is mute and not needed as are most of what else I've read that you've posted. Pretty sure your status on here is advertiser so maybe you should stick to just that. We're out here helping each other stay safe and protected and to not loose money on bullshit and bullshit people. Has nothing to do with discretion we all want discretion and safety that's why we do what we do and steps we take to stay safe.

  5. #12123
    I've seen her a few times but as far as I know she only does massages with HE even though she posts in the escort section and lists menu items that I don't think she offers. She's very pretty and her body is amazing. Her tits are perfect. She's pretty shy and quiet and her massages are not worth her fees. I don't think I'll be seeing her again unless she starts offering FS.

  6. #12122

    Row

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy21  [View Original Post]
    New to the hobby, long time viewer of the forum, first time contribution. I saw Row last week, she is a petite sexy young girl. She showed up at the hotel in a sexy outfit. We started with bareback blow job, then she moved on top, then we did missionary. It was a great experience, not rushed, I will definitely repeat.

    She advertise msog. I did not ask to go again, but will definitely next time. Be nice to her guys, I hope to see her long time.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...b/861788878020
    Hey Nice Guy, good call on the opening act. Rows a cute little spinner and some guys don't like them that small but I have seen her a few times and have never been disappointed . IMO. FS.

  7. #12121

    Low Hanging Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Comrad  [View Original Post]
    I don't have an issue with the "handler" or whatever you want to call them as long as they don't fuck up my experience. I had a dude follow me down the hallway of the C Plaza a couple of weeks ago when I was leaving an appointment. I kept looking over my shoulder sizing him up, I was thinking "hey ***** are you going to try to rob me or what?" You can't act like a pussy and be prepared to defend yourself if necessary, he backed off, I got on the elevator and left. If you act scared, they think you are low hanging fruit.
    I can't agree with you more Comrad. I work in areas that are very inner city. I have gotten used to keeping a certain external confidence for all to see. I am not as bothered as many (understandably) about entering various seedy novels. For myself, if a provider is up front about a dude in the same house / apartment, I am less apt to back out. I will also say that my theory may be just s#!thouse luck. One can't ever be too sure and must always keep your senses about you. Sandy.

  8. #12120
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy51  [View Original Post]
    I saw her a while back when she was living with a guy (presumably the same guy). For me, she was up front about him and assured me there would not be any issues. I had seen her a number of times before so I felt a level of trust. Indeed, I had no problems and received a great BBBJ, cim. I also don't blame anyone for being leary. I creeped her and her friends on Facebook and the dude on his page is very proud of being with the Gypsy and has his picture next to her ass. That was a little off putting to me. I have no real conclusion other than to share my own experiences. Take them for what they are. I would like to see her again at some point. Sandy.
    I don't have an issue with the "handler" or whatever you want to call them as long as they don't fuck up my experience. I had a dude follow me down the hallway of the C Plaza a couple of weeks ago when I was leaving an appointment. I kept looking over my shoulder sizing him up, I was thinking "hey ***** are you going to try to rob me or what?" You can't act like a pussy and be prepared to defend yourself if necessary, he backed off, I got on the elevator and left. If you act scared, they think you are low hanging fruit.

  9. #12119

    I will never send a Selfie

    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateParts  [View Original Post]
    I agree some of these fakes are getting harder to spot so it's tempting to TOFTT.

    But before following Robov down the rabbit hole I'd also suggest you ask for a unique selfie confirmation pic and maybe even mention you'll only pay cash before you jump into your car to TOFTT. It seems there are more and more scammers out there using real pics to lure mongers to a hotel parking lot only to be asked for a $50 cashApp deposit. Even if "she" negotiates down to 5 bucks before giving you her room number DON'T DO IT. It's probably a dude living in his mother's basement running this scam 1000 times a day all across the country. Too many guys feel committed after the drive and will throw good money away in hopes it's legit. Don't fall for it.
    I wholeheartedly disagree Private Parts. If a monger cannot respect my discretion, I will not add to his picture collection. As far as I am concerned, the only one who would request or even require that I send them a face picture would be a cop. If I send a selfie and it ends up being a sting, that just makes it all the more easy for them to arrest me. Your advice isn't very good because it doesn't respect the provider's need for discretion. Also, you never want to speak of "cash" or even electronic payments directly. They can get you with solicitation even for simply having the conversation to set things up. You don't even have to go through with anything for them to charge you. Stay safe out there guys!

  10. #12118

    Best advice yet!

    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateParts  [View Original Post]
    I agree some of these fakes are getting harder to spot so it's tempting to TOFTT.

    But before following Robov down the rabbit hole I'd also suggest you ask for a unique selfie confirmation pic and maybe even mention you'll only pay cash before you jump into your car to TOFTT. It seems there are more and more scammers out there using real pics to lure mongers to a hotel parking lot only to be asked for a $50 cashApp deposit. Even if "she" negotiates down to 5 bucks before giving you her room number DON'T DO IT. It's probably a dude living in his mother's basement running this scam 1000 times a day all across the country. Too many guys feel committed after the drive and will throw good money away in hopes it's legit. Don't fall for it.
    Thanks PP, stay safe, BB12.

  11. #12117

    Deep Fakes & wild goose chases

    I agree some of these fakes are getting harder to spot so it's tempting to TOFTT.

    But before following Robov down the rabbit hole I'd also suggest you ask for a unique selfie confirmation pic and maybe even mention you'll only pay cash before you jump into your car to TOFTT. It seems there are more and more scammers out there using real pics to lure mongers to a hotel parking lot only to be asked for a $50 cashApp deposit. Even if "she" negotiates down to 5 bucks before giving you her room number DON'T DO IT. It's probably a dude living in his mother's basement running this scam 1000 times a day all across the country. Too many guys feel committed after the drive and will throw good money away in hopes it's legit. Don't fall for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerProgr  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Thanks. Just curious, how did you find out they are fakes?
    Quote Originally Posted by RobovDaslav  [View Original Post]
    Honestly, other than their pics being a little on the "To Good To Be True" side, I actually wouldn't immediately call them fakes, at least the first and last one. I doubt you'd get the bombshells in those pictures coming to the door, but I don't think it would hurt to go down the rabbit hole, with some heavy caution and an exit strategy.

  12. #12116

    Hard Call IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerProgr  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Thanks. Just curious, how did you find out they are fakes?
    Honestly, other than their pics being a little on the "To Good To Be True" side, I actually wouldn't immediately call them fakes, at least the first and last one. I doubt you'd get the bombshells in those pictures coming to the door, but I don't think it would hurt to go down the rabbit hole, with some heavy caution and an exit strategy.

    Usually, easiest ways I've found to weed out fakes is to.

    First: Check the phone number. Any area code that starts with a 7 or 9 is an immediate hard pass for me, and anything that isn't a well known area code for the city / nearby cities (eg. 616 or 231) is usually met with extreme skepticism.

    Second: Reverse image search the pics. Not every one of them will come up with something (which can be a red flag on its own), but sometimes you'll find results from either porn sites (which ends the search right there. Even if the ad is real, I wouldn't waste my time with that level of catfishing) or stg ads from different cities. Not to say that these women can't travel, which some do, but if there's at least 3 different cities from wildly different parts of the country and no mention in any of them that she's only staying for a short time, then it's probably a safe bet she's fake.

    Of course, searching these forums for first hand accounts can supersede either of those steps, but if there's nothing found otherwise, I generally use the above to make the best guesses on who's fake and who's making a post about.

  13. #12115

    Thanks for a newbie post

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy21  [View Original Post]
    New to the hobby, long time viewer of the forum, first time contribution. I saw Row last week, she is a petite sexy young girl. She showed up at the hotel in a sexy outfit. We started with bareback blow job, then she moved on top, then we did missionary. It was a great experience, not rushed, I will definitely repeat.

    She advertise msog. I did not ask to go again, but will definitely next time. Be nice to her guys, I hope to see her long time.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...b/861788878020
    Hey Niceguy thanks for posting and not asking for info on providers like so many newbies do, you've earned cred with me, though it doesn't really matter, just thought I'd give you props, take care, be safe, BB12.

  14. #12114

    2 out of 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerProgr  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Thanks. Just curious, how did you find out they are fakes?
    So the first thing is check the photo, 1, and 3 seemed to be potentially real, with local postings only on google photo, 2 has posting in Chek language sites, so probably fake. 1 and 3 both have Michigan phone numbers so again potentially real. So call and / or text to see what happens. If they respond with a deposit, probably fake, if not Toftt. Let us know.

    Meanwhile I also would be interested in how he found out they were fake.

    Be safe, BB12.

  15. #12113

    Gypsy Boyfriend / Pimp

    Quote Originally Posted by WowMan  [View Original Post]
    Went to go see Gypsy. Went to a residential incall. I had to wait for a while for her. I drove to the house and there was a Gentlemen in all purple standing outside the door looking at his phone and each car as they drove buy. She said it was a roommate first, felt kind of off. Not sure who that was, but I was t going to chance it.

    Stay Safe.
    I saw her a while back when she was living with a guy (presumably the same guy). For me, she was up front about him and assured me there would not be any issues. I had seen her a number of times before so I felt a level of trust. Indeed, I had no problems and received a great BBBJ, cim. I also don't blame anyone for being leary. I creeped her and her friends on Facebook and the dude on his page is very proud of being with the Gypsy and has his picture next to her ass. That was a little off putting to me. I have no real conclusion other than to share my own experiences. Take them for what they are. I would like to see her again at some point. Sandy.

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