Arrangement Reports

[Natefarwell]

All:

Seeing if someone can help me gather some information. I have seen a smokeshow named Olivia from Milwaukee a few times now. Her profile name was LittleMiss (Deactivated). She also goes by Liv. She has seen a few of you in the Chicago area so that is why I am asking you all. She says she wants to do an exclusive with me. However, I have caught her a couple lies already. I am reaching out to see if anyone is still seeing her or texting still. Please PM me with any info. Thank you.

[HarryMcHardon]

I found that even that's a waste. I offer to meet them in public. They like that. Then I tell them to lets meet in the parking lot and we can chat in one of our cars without having to whisper. 90% of the time they are ok with that. I usually push for a motel parking lot and say that if you are not comfortable we don't have to go further. If you are, here we are.

Pretty much my approach. But if I could do dinner / drinks, I would with selected prospects. I just like drinking and talking, and if it's with a nice looking woman so much the better! I just don't have the freedom to do dinners / drinks so with me, it's pretty much short, cheap M&G's. I realize that many women want dinner / drinks, and it probably leads to better dates and higher quality simply because it reduces the stigma of P2 P. I just have to realize I won't ever get those SBs. BUt it does save me money. I am upfront, I do tell them that they will never have evening dates with me. Cuts through the BS and saves time. But it does cost plenty of responses.

When I do manage to achieve one, M&Gs have worked out well for me whether the parking lot variety, or a coffee shop. Sometimes it can get awkward at the coffee shops, though if the girl is particularly hot and / or she dresses sexy. Now I say "Don't dress sexy!" if doing a public M&G. The seating at Starbucks is very tight, lotta loners staring silently into PC screens, closeby, easy for them to pretend they're busy on the laptop creating the next Amazon instead of trying to listen to what that old man and hottie are discussing. And it's usually some 20-something incel type, drooling and doing a poor job of hiding the fact he's staring at your date, and wondering why HE can't have coffee with that hot 20-something, instead of some old guy. LOL.

[HarryMcHardon]

I was on SA a couple years ago and recently reactivated. You can still strike gold, but it feels like a lot more work, and the girls are more flaky, entitled, and shameless than ever. Avoid the strippers.

I saw a difference between my 2nd whirl on SA, in Feb / Mar 2021 vs my 1st whirl, early 2020.2nd whirl, probably jumped back in too early, before the pandemic broke. It wasn't totally insurmountable, because I found a few SBs that were mountable and insertable. But the quality just wasn't there for me vs my earlier spin. My impression was there were less women active on the site. Especially college types. Had to work harder.

I did find a keeper that I'm still seeing, nice but not the ultra hottie keeper I found last time. I also got the impression the girls were more impatient and more likely to move on if they didn't hear back quickly or felt you weren't serious. Another thing I really didn't feel last time. I like to chat and joke around for a little while, to feel the girl out. Some don't have the patience for that, I guess. I did make a couple stupid rookie mistakes that I feel cost me a couple good prospects. That's on me. Less room for error in one's approach maybe. ☹ Face it, some guys will always be successful, no matter what, and the decline in SBs will be more keenly felt by the 2nd and 3rd tier guys (unfortunately, that would be me&#9785.

Still will admit, definitely worth the price of emission, um. Admission. It's only $100, chump change. The time, effort and frustration are the big considerations. Guess there's always that hit on your self confidence if you strike out after 30 days. Plenty of K's there but in between there are a few homeruns. LOL I'll probably jump back in soon.

[Nidhogg69]

I would have actually let it go one step further so you have the info on how she wanted the money sent. Once they've exposed their CashApp, Venmo, whatever, now there's a hard trail from their communications with you to their personal financial information, at least if they actually intended to get their hands on the money. Reporting directly to those services could get their accounts & funds frozen almost immediately, well before a police report saw any results. But that info would certainly jump start a police investigation much faster than just their social media info, and if they turned out to be based in another state when they tried to extort you, that opens them up to Federal charges too. I'm sure I'd want to get them blocked and out of sight as quickly as possible too, but would love to see someone put all that legal and financial hurt on one of these scammers!

Oh I have all that. She sent me a screenshot of her CashApp tag so my boy was like. Keep that. It's hard evidence of attempt to extort, if I don't want to press it I still am covered IF she ever went thru with her threats.

[NewInChi]

This one wants a gift sent to her before we meet.

https://www.seeking.com/member/42873...1-b5264ef55848

[TheArgent]

My rule is 10 minutes and 10 bucks. We both meet for coffee for about 10 minutes. I buy. You honestly have decided by then if your going to have sex.

That's one way to go. One of my best arrangements started this way. On the other hand, four of my worst lays on Seeking started this way. A girl who agrees to meet you in a Dunkin Donuts for 10 minutes right before you fuck in the motel next door may or may not be a good time. But the odds are a lot higher that she's a hustler, semi-pro, desperate because of her circumstances or sees me just as a source of cash and nothing else. That can be hot. I'd love to see a girl who turned 18 last week and is exploring her wild side with me a month before she decides to get into porn. And it would be exciting to see a 25 yo married chic who is desperate for just enough money to hire a divorce lawyer. But in reality, in my experience these kinds of very transactional arrangements are just like seeing an escort, which doesn't really do it for me.

The best sex with the hottest girls have been in arrangements where we went to a nice dinner to meet and she wouldn't go to a hotel with me until date two. And there's been a bunch of girls who went on a nice dinner with me and wouldn't go to a hotel with me ever, despite my best sales pitch. It's not wasted money. It's an investment. Some of these girls I'm still thinking about when I jerk off 10 years later. That's life changing sex and I can't wait to put in the investment to have more of it.

Sometimes I'm traveling and horny and I take what I can get. But the difference in how much I enjoy A) "This girl is cute and says she's basically DTF, but in her snapchat she's clearly been up for 24 hours and it looks like there's a gun in her backseat?" and B) "That Purdue cheerleader was with me two weeks ago and I just saw her on ESPN. " . Is tremendous.

[JonnyRyall]

I would have actually let it go one step further so you have the info on how she wanted the money sent. Once they've exposed their CashApp, Venmo, whatever, now there's a hard trail from their communications with you to their personal financial information, at least if they actually intended to get their hands on the money. Reporting directly to those services could get their accounts & funds frozen almost immediately, well before a police report saw any results. But that info would certainly jump start a police investigation much faster than just their social media info, and if they turned out to be based in another state when they tried to extort you, that opens them up to Federal charges too. I'm sure I'd want to get them blocked and out of sight as quickly as possible too, but would love to see someone put all that legal and financial hurt on one of these scammers!

Yes. She did the same thing to someone I know. Specific threat of extortion with very clear instructions, deadlines and cash transfer instructions including her cashapp account. This person has screenshots of all of it. Anyone can pm me for details. Throw the book at her.

[Pau Ford]

The only thing that concerns me here is the pics are 7 years old 😂.

HeatherFeather in Antioch.
According to FB, the pics in her profile are around 7 years old. She has open court cases for traffic violations and for being in possession of drugs. There are some news articles about her that talk about her arrests for drugs and assault.

Use caution if you meet her.

https://www.seeking.com/member/dde2012e-e6de-4eeb-a1ba-0a1dc08fd847

[ChrisHansen92]

My rule is 10 minutes and 10 bucks. We both meet for coffee for about 10 minutes. I buy. You honestly have decided by then if your going to have sex.

I found that even that's a waste. I offer to meet them in public. They like that. Then I tell them to lets meet in the parking lot and we can chat in one of our cars without having to whisper. 90% of the time they are ok with that. I usually push for a motel parking lot and say that if you are not comfortable we don't have to go further. If you are, here we are.

[Zimbler]

HeatherFeather in Antioch.

Antioch is in northern IL near the WI border. Use caution with this one. I can't message her because I don't have a paid SA account, but I did some detective work online and found her full name, home address, place of work, Facebook, Instagram, along with her court & arrest records. I didn't find her phone number though.

According to FB, the pics in her profile are around 7 years old. She has open court cases for traffic violations and for being in possession of drugs. There are some news articles about her that talk about her arrests for drugs and assault.

Use caution if you meet her.

https://www.seeking.com/member/dde2012e-e6de-4eeb-a1ba-0a1dc08fd847

[FafaFooey]

She's a moron. Screenshot all of her texts and save them to a folder somewhere along with all of the personal info you might know (phone #, where you met her, real name if you know it). Extortion is a Class 4 Felony and she just gave you all the evidence you need for a defense as well as to get her convicted. Uncle LEO will be much more interested in an extortion felony than someone fucking a chick he met on a site where everyone goes to meet people to fuck.

I would have actually let it go one step further so you have the info on how she wanted the money sent. Once they've exposed their CashApp, Venmo, whatever, now there's a hard trail from their communications with you to their personal financial information, at least if they actually intended to get their hands on the money. Reporting directly to those services could get their accounts & funds frozen almost immediately, well before a police report saw any results. But that info would certainly jump start a police investigation much faster than just their social media info, and if they turned out to be based in another state when they tried to extort you, that opens them up to Federal charges too. I'm sure I'd want to get them blocked and out of sight as quickly as possible too, but would love to see someone put all that legal and financial hurt on one of these scammers!

[Chicago41]

I found that even that's a waste. I offer to meet them in public. They like that. Then I tell them to lets meet in the parking lot and we can chat in one of our cars without having to whisper. 90% of the time they are ok with that. I usually push for a motel parking lot and say that if you are not comfortable we don't have to go further. If you are, here we are.

All this discussion of dinners and cofee reminds me of one of my earliest attempts to meet someone on SA. Reasonably attractive younger redhead, polite and friendly at first. We decide to meet in public, so I suggest a particular coffee place that's central to both of us and isn't going to be full of people I know. Immediately the dismissive attitude and whining starts in about how she deserves a nice dinner and an upscale place, etc. Etc. There's no way in hell I'm taking any of these chicks out to dinner or lunch or anything else on a first meeting. Said it before, it sucks enough going on a real date and trying to get through it with someone you actually might want to get to know a bit. Someone my age taking a 21 year old who looks nothing like she could be my daughter to a fancy dinner not only looks creepy as hell, but spending $$ to sit there and be so bored I want to commit seppuku? And she'd probably be just as bored? No thanks.

I'd consider meeting for coffee someplace, but mostly I'm with you. We all know why we're here, the fake "spend a bunch of money on clothes / dinners" thing is bullshit. Definitely one of the downsides of SA. Just fuck me and I'll give you the $ to go get whatever food and clothes you want. We'll both be happier.

[Randolph]

I found that even that's a waste. I offer to meet them in public. They like that. Then I tell them to lets meet in the parking lot and we can chat in one of our cars without having to whisper. 90% of the time they are ok with that. I usually push for a motel parking lot and say that if you are not comfortable we don't have to go further. If you are, here we are.

If you've never met, dinner can be a long time to suffer through a bad meet. Coffee is great. It's in the morning so if she's into bad shit it is tough to hide. Less expensive than dinner and you can end it as soon as it goes awry.

My best first meet was with one that looked like a young Robin Wright Penn. I must have been drooling during the whole talk and I might have even proposed. The record skipped once the subject of my marriage came up.

In topic but I think it's not worth the effort to hide your relationship. In fact I think a lot of these girls are actually turned on by the idea of being the other woman. This one wasn't, not because of any moral dilemma just didn't want to have to sneak around. She was in her 30's but I think girls in their 20's enjoy the game. Maybe some of you disagree but I kind of feel this way.

[DynoJr]

When meeting up a girl for first time, meet up for a coffee or a quick bite. Avoid going out for dinners, it can get expensive. Especially if you're not even sure of the outcome afterward. I'm only posting this in case it is of any use to any newbies. Surely all you experienced hobbies know this as "common sense. ".

I am definitely a bit rusty, finally connected with a girl last week. We had been chatting a few months ago. The girl is gorgeous, had a cute dress that showed off her great body very nicely. Convo was enjoyable. We fucked at the end of the night, so everything was on point.

Work usually keeps me busy, so I had gone along with her pick on where to go for dinner. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but the bill with drinks afterward was almost 2 bills. I'd want to avoid spending too much on a p4 p girl. Shoot, even if we're fucking for free. Our next date will be at her house. I'll just pick up a 6 pack and order a pizza.

If you've never met, dinner can be a long time to suffer through a bad meet. Coffee is great. It's in the morning so if she's into bad shit it is tough to hide. Less expensive than dinner and you can end it as soon as it goes awry.

My best first meet was with one that looked like a young Robin Wright Penn. I must have been drooling during the whole talk and I might have even proposed. The record skipped once the subject of my marriage came up.

In topic but I think it's not worth the effort to hide your relationship. In fact I think a lot of these girls are actually turned on by the idea of being the other woman. This one wasn't, not because of any moral dilemma just didn't want to have to sneak around. She was in her 30's but I think girls in their 20's enjoy the game. Maybe some of you disagree but I kind of feel this way.

[RusselJimmies]

Hi,

I haven't been on SA for like 4 years and thinking of getting back in the game. Is it still worth it to join? I know they are banning users now not like before. Thanks.

I was on SA a couple years ago and recently reactivated. You can still strike gold, but it feels like a lot more work, and the girls are more flaky, entitled, and shameless than ever. Avoid the strippers.