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  1. #13836
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobiesMan  [View Original Post]
    What is the deal with guys who throw a wad of singles on stage but don't go to VIP? The dancers flock to them and stay at their table for hours. Any advice? Should I just go up to the table and ask a girl if she wants to go to VIP? She'll make more money with me. But it seems like a good way to get beat up by a frat boy with a backwards baseball cap and ballooned out roid muscles.
    BM,

    You have to understand the game to understand the behavior. I am sure I am ruining someone's fun with this information.

    I a guy like me (and probably you) wants to tip a girl on stage a dollar and 30 minutes later see her naked in the VIP. Maybe even go to the VIP with a second or third girl later in the evening if we find someone we like.

    These guys are playing a totally different game. They are tipping the girls 40 or 60 dollars making her decide to sit with them instead of me. They are promising to go to the VIP with her for a good amount of money probably double what you or I would offer. Their goal is to get her drunk so she makes bad decisions. They will wait to the final hour of the night and then have some excuse like they only have $50 left and offer her a low price to go to the VIP. She is faced with the choice of taking the low offer or not being able to get a customer and possibly not making her tip out. Or they will make a excuse like the VIP is not comfortable or they don't like being in the VIP when other people can hear what they are doing, and the goal is get her to agree to meet after the club closes and then they can be with her for the rest of the night.

    The best way to deal with this is when one of the shot girls comes around with her shot tray asking if you want to buy a shot. You reply yes, and you want to buy one for that dancer, the blond sitting at the table with those 5 guys. If she can get the dancer to come sit with you then you will buy a shot a for her. The Shot girl will be very persuasive in making sure the dancer comes and sits with you. The dancer will already be drunk from the other guys drinks and you can have a fun time with her in the VIP. Think of it as doing a public service for the dancer. This way when the other guys lowball her or suggest she join them after hours, instead of her barely having enough money to cover tip out, she will have your money and will likely decline their offers.

    MM.

  2. #13835

    Silver Criket and BT's Daytime 6/28-6/29

    I'm back in town for a few weeks and decided to visit a few clubs.

    I went to Silver Criket on 6/28 dayshift the place was packed with guys, and they only had 6 dancers, one was a very cute AA dancer, Bambi, I talked with her for a bit, and it got down to negotiations, and she said she doesn't do extras, so that was over, and I left as the other dancers were with customers, and they really didn't do much for me.

    I returned the following day, 6/29 dayshift and there were a ton of guys in there, with 4 dancers, so I left without buying a drink.

    I then went to BT's dayshift and I have not been there in 4 years (as I've had some bad experiences with girls trying to rip people off, etc.

    There were a few very attractive dancers in there, but again, most with customers, and a few guys making it "rain" with singles. One was an extremely cute, young spinner "Ami" with no tats, but she was with a customer in a booth with him the whole time. Dallas was also there, a young Latina or Arabic (looking gal, cute face, and bit bigger body. She was friendly but wasn't interested in selling dances, as much as bs'ing with people at the bar?

    I had two beers, and two shots, and bought a person a shot, so 3 drinks two beers and the bill was $62. Drinks / shots are $13.95 , so with tax, tip, and BS. $66, Plus 10 for the valet!

    I asked the guy at the VIP booth what the cost were he said its $20 to get in, $25 a song to the house, and what ever the girl charges, so basically $45 a song= fuck that! They also don't always charge that, so it seems to be a, see what we can charge deal? BT's hasn't changed one bit! I cannot stand the wishy-washy bullshit, and it was a good reminder why I hadn't been in there in years.

    I'll try Silver Criket again, maybe my luck will change, but these are sure boring times now in SCs around Detroit. Coliseum was amazing until the curtains came down! Glad I moved to another part of the world!

  3. #13834

    Best answer

    Quote Originally Posted by JayJay123  [View Original Post]
    Tip a waitress or the shot girl to discreetly mention to the dancer with fratboy that you'd like some of her time.
    When some jagoff is monopolizing the time of the apple of your eye, enlist some help. DJ or other club staff can be helpful, too. In 40 years of strip clubbing, I've never approached a dancer sitting with someone else.

    Though be sure to tip the waitress / DJ / bouncer for the errand.

  4. #13833
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobiesMan  [View Original Post]
    What is the deal with guys who throw a wad of singles on stage but don't go to VIP? The dancers flock to them and stay at their table for hours. Any advice? Should I just go up to the table and ask a girl if she wants to go to VIP? She'll make more money with me. But it seems like a good way to get beat up by a frat boy with a backwards baseball cap and ballooned out roid muscles.
    Tip a waitress or the shot girl to discreetly mention to the dancer with fratboy that you'd like some of her time.

  5. #13832
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobiesMan  [View Original Post]
    What is the deal with guys who throw a wad of singles on stage but don't go to VIP? The dancers flock to them and stay at their table for hours. Any advice? Should I just go up to the table and ask a girl if she wants to go to VIP? She'll make more money with me. But it seems like a good way to get beat up by a frat boy with a backwards baseball cap and ballooned out roid muscles.
    When it is one of those nights I just take my money home and come back another day. If the girls are carrying bags of cash from the stage, little reason for her to actually do anything in VIP. I wouldn't approach her if she is visiting another customer, even if it is a make it rain clown, as I wouldn't like to be interrupted if I was sitting with someone.

  6. #13831

    Making it Rain. But Really Only a Sprinkle

    What is the deal with guys who throw a wad of singles on stage but don't go to VIP? The dancers flock to them and stay at their table for hours. Any advice? Should I just go up to the table and ask a girl if she wants to go to VIP? She'll make more money with me. But it seems like a good way to get beat up by a frat boy with a backwards baseball cap and ballooned out roid muscles.

  7. #13830

    Song fee

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeTwist  [View Original Post]
    I had the same B. S. Happen with a dancer named Deena, thought she said Gina, but was informed by several people later it was probably Deena. Only difference is I refused to pay the scammer and the bouncer eventually agreed, and I left and vowed never to return.
    Since seeing these posts I always ask the dancer beforehand if they charge separately per song at BTs. I haven't had any problems. If everyone asks, then we can squash this scam.

  8. #13829
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMan  [View Original Post]
    BT's.

    Made the mistake of buying a dance from Sam or Sam-I-Am. Redhead (artificial dye job, almost pink), a bit thick in the middle, nice rack. Great conversation. We agreed in advance to a total price of $150 for hands only. Mediocre dance. Rushed. After I paid her $150, she said I also owed for 5 dances. I said we had agreed to a fixed price, she said, no, that's in addition. Whatever. I paid. If I'm ever in Detroit again, I'll never go to BT's.

    SAM or SAM-I-AM = bad choice.
    I had the same B. S. Happen with a dancer named Deena, thought she said Gina, but was informed by several people later it was probably Deena. Only difference is I refused to pay the scammer and the bouncer eventually agreed, and I left and vowed never to return.

  9. #13828
    Quote Originally Posted by Beefer99  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to those who responded to my posts, last week. On Thursday, I ended up at FC and actually had a great time, which I'll discuss below. I also stopped in at Bogart's, which was a waste of my time.

    Initially, I was looking for a hot African American girl with a tight body and a decent rack. I stopped in to Bogart's first. It was mid-afternoon. I hadn't been there in many years, but it felt like death's waiting room. Older customers (I'm 50 or so) and a combination of older and rough looking dancers. I stuck around for 30 minutes nursing a beer and didn't see anyone remotely interesting. So I headed across the street.

    As I've mentioned before, FC has usually been my go to when I'm in town. I've only been there a few times in the past 5 years, so most of the dancers and especially the bartenders that I knew have moved on. I didn't find a black girl there that fit my specs, but spent time with two different girls. Both were fantastic. The first was Anneka (sp? She was an attractive blonde girl. A little older, I think. Great body and huge rack. Pricing was reasonable and she did not disappoint. As I was beginning to leave, another girl stopped by. She's 100% my type. Pretty. Great body. Huge fake boobs. Long blonde hair with dark highlights. She also had a great attitude. I didn't think I could get a second run, but her skills were amazing. She knew I was already spent and took it as a personal challenge. Got her digits for my next trip in. Not a bad daytime excursion.
    How much did they charge you?

  10. #13827

    First time at LS

    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger  [View Original Post]
    At 150 for a BBBJ, and 3 for all in, her prices might need to come down before there's a rush on her. I was interested in a pretty hot redhead at Bogarts within the last month, she said 250 for FS. I didn't bother countering, said that was too much and she wandered off; it wasn't worth getting her to a reasonable number with that starting point. A girl who opens at 200 will get me to counter and end up somewhere in the middle. Hard to get to 120-180 from 300. In the distant past, I'd pay over 200 for top-shelf girls at Penthouse, Coliseum, Hustler, because they were that hot, and the clubs had spacious VIP rooms. We haven't seen that level of hotness in almost a decade, here in Detroit.
    Yeah I guess that was a little high in price but me being impulsive I just went with It LOL. Especially since I knew I wouldn't finish from a BBBJ.

  11. #13826

    Recent Trip Report. Bogart's and Flight Club

    Thanks to those who responded to my posts, last week. On Thursday, I ended up at FC and actually had a great time, which I'll discuss below. I also stopped in at Bogart's, which was a waste of my time.

    Initially, I was looking for a hot African American girl with a tight body and a decent rack. I stopped in to Bogart's first. It was mid-afternoon. I hadn't been there in many years, but it felt like death's waiting room. Older customers (I'm 50 or so) and a combination of older and rough looking dancers. I stuck around for 30 minutes nursing a beer and didn't see anyone remotely interesting. So I headed across the street.

    As I've mentioned before, FC has usually been my go to when I'm in town. I've only been there a few times in the past 5 years, so most of the dancers and especially the bartenders that I knew have moved on. I didn't find a black girl there that fit my specs, but spent time with two different girls. Both were fantastic. The first was Anneka (sp? She was an attractive blonde girl. A little older, I think. Great body and huge rack. Pricing was reasonable and she did not disappoint. As I was beginning to leave, another girl stopped by. She's 100% my type. Pretty. Great body. Huge fake boobs. Long blonde hair with dark highlights. She also had a great attitude. I didn't think I could get a second run, but her skills were amazing. She knew I was already spent and took it as a personal challenge. Got her digits for my next trip in. Not a bad daytime excursion.

  12. #13825

    Cash cow

    Its all about the money. They pull quite a bit when doing a SW stings. DP wants money, Judges want to secure their retirement funds, and they're using it as a cash cow. Simple as that. Who in the right mind would slaughter that cow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electronman  [View Original Post]
    I acknowledge the joy of physical contact with a sexy woman but for me, that experience (absent BJ or FS!) would be like going to a bakery and paying to look at and smell the pastries, but never getting to actually consume a baked delectable. Not quite priceless because it would not satisfy my desires.

    Wish that Coliseum could return to its former glory days- but that would require a more private VIP set up and the Detroit authorities and religious zealots seem to be intent on preventing consenting adults from having sex. With a number of municipalities deciding to drop efforts to prosecute prostitution, Detroit seems to be intent on heading in the wrong direction. Too bad they aren't more focused on getting guns out of the hands of criminals and minors.

  13. #13824

    Dreamgirls

    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger  [View Original Post]
    Arrived around midnight, there were about 7 or so dancers, the only ones whose names I knew were Bubbles (dances only), Jordan (CBJ), and Courtney a thick blonde whom I recall from Bogarts and I find her annoying. There were two brunetres that I found appealing, but they were seated with customers. After about 45 minutes I decided to try Bogarts.

    Bogarts also had a slim roster (quantity, not size) and was packed. Two stood out to me, a petite, pretty blonde who introduced herself as Zena, but learned her stage name was Bunny. She was quite busy with customers wanting her attention; the other that caught my attention was a tall brunette, long legs, uber-tan and nice fake rack. I learned later that she goes by Chloe, and is a veteran dancer. I didn't recall her from any other clubs over the years. I decided to zero in on Bunny. She told me that was her first night at BG's, but in the past dances at Dreamgirls and Subis. She said Dreamgirls was wild in that she saw dancers use toys on stage. I never saw that in the Hustler years, and tend to doubt that it happened recently. Anyway, the night was up and it didn't look like they were doing privates past 2, but then they did. So without negotiating we went up, the wristband guy wasn't there, so we grabbed a booth. I then discovered that the only menu item was dances. I got two and left.

    That said, does anyone have info on Chloe and her menu? Johnny told me that t she dances 4 nights, Tu-Sa, and takes off one, usually Thursday, I think.
    "She said Dreamgirls was wild in that she saw dancers use toys on stage. I never saw that in the Hustler years, and tend to doubt that it happened recently. ".

    If confirmed, this could be interesting. Pre-COVID, a few dancers wore butt plugs at Dream girls.

    Does anyone know if Dreamgirls has expanded their hours or is it only open in the evening?

  14. #13823

    Note the time frame of my comment

    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson  [View Original Post]
    *METRO Detroit. Most of the clubs discussed here aren't even in Detroit, FYI.
    Perhaps you recall that clubs in Detroit prior to the changes regarding VIP rooms being removed, the action was the same in Detroit proper, and in "METRO" Detroit? Again, please look at the time frame that I mentioned. Almost a decade. So Detroit clubs were in play, and very popular.

  15. #13822

    Damage? Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Praetorian1981  [View Original Post]
    Everything is on the table.
    Thanks Praetorian1981. Would you mind sharing your damage? It'll help me next time.

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