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  1. #483

    Dirty Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Ottotot  [View Original Post]
    Some readings you guys probably would like to see.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trafficki...200105377.html
    The suit also claims that local police officers were complicit in protecting the trafficking ring from authorities, in exchange for sexual services. It alleged that two Fairfax County police officers alerted Sanchez when the department would be doing sex trafficking stings and tipped her off about when they would be searching sites like Backpage.com and Eros.com, where she allegedly advertised her services. In exchange, the suit states, "Sanchez made Jane Doe available to them for sexual services gratis."

  2. #482

    Trafficking? I doubt it

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Indeed I wonder how many stings Fairfax County police are carrying out. I also wonder if the evidence from those stings could potentially be ruled inadmissible if investigators confirm cops had sex with females suspected of being trafficking victims.

    I can't recall ever having visited Hispanic providers in apartments and condos around Fairfax. However, I've paid plenty of visits to Asian crapshoot providers as well as the Asian MILF's who worked in Northern Virginia a few years back. I also once visited the infamous Clifton farmhouse. I hope and pray none of those providers were trafficked against their will.
    I can honestly say that every provider I have ever met told me that their activities were their choice. Most have financial goals, most were single by choice, and seemingly made their own choice to do whatever they do. I can say that I am pretty good friends with a few in VA, NY, PA, and abroad, and this was a choice. The ones abroad all had control of their passports and although committed to a place for x time, were in control. The mind of a provider is an interesting place I may add.

    I am sure that trafficking happens, but I have not seen it at all. Just a bunch of consenting adults.

  3. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Indeed I wonder how many stings Fairfax County police are carrying out. I also wonder if the evidence from those stings could potentially be ruled inadmissible if investigators confirm cops had sex with females suspected of being trafficking victims.

    I can't recall ever having visited Hispanic providers in apartments and condos around Fairfax. However, I've paid plenty of visits to Asian crapshoot providers as well as the Asian MILF's who worked in Northern Virginia a few years back. I also once visited the infamous Clifton farmhouse. I hope and pray none of those providers were trafficked against their will.
    Ahh the Clifton farmhouse. I have been there as well. That was one of the more interesting visits I have made in my day.

  4. #480

    Good grief

    Quote Originally Posted by Delee1234  [View Original Post]
    Wow. Fairfax County Police? That's fucked. Also makes me wonder how many stings Fairfax has going on right now. Maybe I'll just stick with agencies now.
    Indeed I wonder how many stings Fairfax County police are carrying out. I also wonder if the evidence from those stings could potentially be ruled inadmissible if investigators confirm cops had sex with females suspected of being trafficking victims.

    I can't recall ever having visited Hispanic providers in apartments and condos around Fairfax. However, I've paid plenty of visits to Asian crapshoot providers as well as the Asian MILF's who worked in Northern Virginia a few years back. I also once visited the infamous Clifton farmhouse. I hope and pray none of those providers were trafficked against their will.

  5. #479

    And Fairfax cops were protecting actual traffickers

    Quote Originally Posted by Delee1234  [View Original Post]
    Wow. Fairfax County Police? That's fucked. Also makes me wonder how many stings Fairfax has going on right now. Maybe I'll just stick with agencies now.
    This was an actual abusive trafficking operation, where the women were lured from Costa Rica with promises of legit work, then shown pictures of their children back home and warned that they'd be harmed if the women didn't work for them. They'd hold the women's passports to keep them from leaving.

    The woman running the operation was named Hazel Marie Sanchez Cerdas, and went by "Andrea. " She and her husband made hundreds of thousands of dollars in Nova alone, and kept nearly all of it. They also ran or worked with operations in Tampa, New York, and other cities, so this no doubt involved millions of dollars and dozens of actual victims.

    I wonder which Fairfax condo this was, and hope I didn't go to any of their locations. Anyone recognize details of which outfit this was?

    Here's the FBI affidavit for the criminal complaint, detailing the operation.

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...anchez-cerdas/

    The sad part is that this is someone who actually used threats and fear to intimidate women, and she barely did two years in prison. Meanwhile, the cops arrest people seeking to engage in consensual activity, announce "anti-trafficking arrests," and the media unquestioningly reports it.

  6. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottotot  [View Original Post]
    Some readings you guys probably would like to see.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trafficki...200105377.html
    Wow. Fairfax County Police? That's fucked. Also makes me wonder how many stings Fairfax has going on right now. Maybe I'll just stick with agencies now.

  7. #477
    Some readings you guys probably would like to see.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trafficki...200105377.html

  8. #476
    Senior Member


    Posts: 177

    Not so

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info, but that would be much more useful to mongers heading to eastern North Carolina than mongers in this area. Still, this reminds us we always need to be vigilant when visiting our favorite AMP's and other places.
    I posted under Va. Beach a few days ago, you have to remember owners own more than one spa, and in different states, keep head on swivel.

  9. #475

    You never have to answer questions

    Quote Originally Posted by FloorHump422  [View Original Post]
    First rule is to always keep your mouth shut. Unless you're being detained, you don't have to answer any questions. They can't prove what you were doing there unless they have cameras set up, which is illegal.
    Even if you're being detained.

    The Pot Brothers at Law explain the script with their "Shut the fuck up Friday" tip of the day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tfEZI54Jg

  10. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by Volvo245  [View Original Post]
    Can you believe this?

    "During the investigation, officers traffic stops on customers who were leaving the businesses and some admitted to receiving sexual services from the massage parlors".

    https://www.live5news.com/2021/06/22...-operation-nc/
    First rule is to always keep your mouth shut. Unless you're being detained, you don't have to answer any questions. They can't prove what you were doing there unless they have cameras set up, which is illegal.

  11. #473

    Customers questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillUponThese  [View Original Post]
    Can you believe this?

    "During the investigation, officers traffic stops on customers who were leaving the businesses and some admitted to receiving sexual services from the massage parlors".

    https://www.live5news.com/2021/06/22...-operation-nc/

  12. #472

    Not in this area

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillUponThese  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info, but that would be much more useful to mongers heading to eastern North Carolina than mongers in this area. Still, this reminds us we always need to be vigilant when visiting our favorite AMP's and other places.

  13. #471

    Passing on some News


  14. #470

    It's all about the money

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Do-gooders who label all sex for pay as "human trafficking," regardless of whether any actual human trafficking is occurring, have emerged as the primary forces against legalization. We'll see what the courts do.

    I once thought it was a matter of time before laws against prostitution were struck down after the United States Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage six years ago. After all, that seemed like the next logical step. Today I'm not so sure. District attorneys choosing not to prosecute prostitution cases is a small step, but that still doesn't stop our least favorite uncle from making arrests and ruining people's lives.
    It's all about low hanging fruit, Police patrol low income areas and arrest people on minor offenses to rack up fines and demonstrate to the "Good" people that their tax dollars are making a difference. They set up prostitution stings for the same reason. Results mean an easier time getting budget requests. Same with Civil forfeiture and officers dedicated to speed traps all in the interest of "Public Safety" when it is really about the money. As far as ruining lives, posting mugshots of Johns in a sting for a misdemeanor offense serves no benefit but to embarrass and intimidate.

    RBD out.

  15. #469

    We'll see

    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    Once the tight ass moralistic boomers die out the push for legalization will prolly start.
    Do-gooders who label all sex for pay as "human trafficking," regardless of whether any actual human trafficking is occurring, have emerged as the primary forces against legalization. We'll see what the courts do.

    I once thought it was a matter of time before laws against prostitution were struck down after the United States Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage six years ago. After all, that seemed like the next logical step. Today I'm not so sure. District attorneys choosing not to prosecute prostitution cases is a small step, but that still doesn't stop our least favorite uncle from making arrests and ruining people's lives.

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