Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[XHippie]

This seems to go in cycles, we've all posted or read how it use to be 40+ stores in Raleigh / Cary then the big shut down. Then it started to ease back to life then a few got popped and some got scared and shut down for awhile then reopened. Then it seemed we were getting back into a groove with some rotation of girls. So here we are again. Cary just seems to be a hot spot for these stores. IMO the early shut downs were related to the Massage Board's involvement, I kinda think these businesses are now on Raleigh and Cary's LE radar. Charlotte possibly Fayetteville doesn't seem to be as bad. Same as last time just have to wait and see how it plays out. When it cools down there are always people looking to sit up shop. Time will tell.

[WitchDoc99]

To each his own, I believe that the whole point of the forum is to provide experiences and info that is useful to all and not just withhold info or sources that at the end helps LEO get what they want, to stop us here from communicating and enjoy what the ladies got to offer. Is what I would call "holding out" on times and just bleeding the forum from the info we have. How about some pro-quo? Be safe out there and thank you to those that "share".

[Joe Looking]

So we all are against paying these deposits. I'm thinking of setting up Cash App and telling the ladies that ask for deposits to send me their deposit if half. When we meet I will refund their full deposit and we can then agree on how badly they want to make money as a Service Provider that day and time. That I will pay in cash if agreeable. - with the understanding that it I get exceptional Service I have the option to tip them.

Take over the Hill, flip the script on the deposits and then maybe try ghosting a few of them after they pay. Sound about right? Take the leverage back. !

This has been my go to move for a while and only 1 has bitten. I think she sent something like $10 to prove she was real and then texted a lot. I sent the $10 back and told her that should be enough to prove we're both real. I did get in to see her but let's just say it wasn't' a good time. She fell into the boat of folks who think that getting paid through cash app means the other person isn't a cop. In other cases there's generally no response back. The funniest was when a person spent a while trying to "educate" me on why I should verify myself with a deposit but they shouldn't. Ultimately though for me deposits aren't worth it. Even if I weren't afraid of scams, I don't believe for a second that a deposit would be enough to hold my spot.

[Leon3798]

I don't doubt girls get contacted often, but I think her influx is partially driven by her rate structure too. Ginger is "cheap" by most standards given her looks / lack of demons, I believe $100 QV / $150 HH. Honestly I'm surprised she hasn't raised that, and she probably could command something in the $150 / $200 / $275 range for QV / HHR / HR. That's true even if I'll never see her. CBJ is a dealbreaker for me personally, and I'm probably not going to see a girl if I don't think I can get her to go bare full service eventually. Ginger isn't that.

But, broader point is that if these chicks are getting hundreds of calls a day. They aren't going to respond to 95% of you. Whether or not you get a response is either due to dumb luck or maybe you've seen her once before and get on a preferred list... she has your name in her cell, she remembers she had a good time with you, and you weren't an unbathed oaf.

Fighting with hundreds of other dudes to fuck doesn't really jive with "GFE" to me. So if you're like me and that's what you're after, you either:

1. Pay more. If a girl doesn't do QVs and is $300+/ hr, she prices out a decent chunk of Raleigh men that aren't willing to pay that. They might still message to try to haggle, but she'll block and move on.

2. Find a girl that likes you and stops advertising. Maybe she was on STG or whatever, gets a catalogue of 100 guys she likes, and rotates through a few every day. These girls would rather fuck 3 guys for an hour each that they know rather than do 12 QVs with randos.

Number 2 ends up being dumb luck more than anything else.

People complain all the time about prices, but if I want to fuck a girl, I don't want to text 10 - 15 girls that aren't atrocious looking, pray for a response back, and hopefully not get ghosted. I know I'm not the only one that has taken hours to lock down a date, taken a shower, hopped in my car, drove 30 minutes to some sketch ass hotel, and ended up ghosted or bait / switched. Time is money, and if I waste a half day with bullshit, that's time I could have been working. I'd rather pay $400/ hr to a higher end girl that isn't going to waste my entire afternoon setting up a meet, is a decent lay, is more attractive than 95% of STG girls, and I can build a connection with.

Even harder to find that especially when BB is your ultimate goal. You get blocked constantly and even are the black-sheep with other mongers. Astonishingly I'm finding its the higher class ladies that warm up to this EVENTUALLY, which makes the first few times a bit of a struggle or complete frustration but worth it. Everyone wants to talk about pricing but my 'kink' pulls the top dollar but you got to be willing to pay to get what you're after. Getting a solid provider that lasts is really hard to find and some start that way but devolve into demons and soliciting for money which to me is crass. Nothing worse than getting that text while I'm watching Stabler kick ass on the new law and order. Being ultra revved up after several days of nothing gets almost painfully horrible and having that one awesome go-to can be a god-send as opposed to the before mentioned texting several providers with no response or responses days later. Anyways happy mongering gents and stay safe out there.

[NeedSiteAccess]

Dafuq? Yeah I have the correct number. Even emailed her on the address listed on Eros. Luck of the draw I guess LOL.

Heh, I dunno homie. I've seen her before so she has my name in her phone, dunno if you have. She mentioned she keeps it to regulars. Heard her phone going off during our session, maybe it was you. LOL.

For those that have seen her, she's having that tattoo removed on her chest and was on vacation earlier in April, so that's probably why haven't seen her much. Likely just taking time off.

[Tawayem]

She responded to me in 30 seconds and I scheduled for this afternoon. She mentioned she got a new phone, make sure you're using the right number (ends in 2669).

Dafuq? Yeah I have the correct number. Even emailed her on the address listed on Eros. Luck of the draw I guess LOL.

[NeedSiteAccess]

FWIW, all this Jessica Foxx talk had me itching to visit her.

She responded to me in 30 seconds and I scheduled for this afternoon. She mentioned she got a new phone, make sure you're using the right number (ends in 2669).

[Tawayem]

People complain all the time about prices, but if I want to fuck a girl, I don't want to text 10 - 15 girls that aren't atrocious looking, pray for a response back, and hopefully not get ghosted. I know I'm not the only one that has taken hours to lock down a date, taken a shower, hopped in my car, drove 30 minutes to some sketch ass hotel, and ended up ghosted or bait / switched. Time is money, and if I waste a half day with bullshit, that's time I could have been working. I'd rather pay $400/ hr to a higher end girl that isn't going to waste my entire afternoon setting up a meet, is a decent lay, is more attractive than 95% of STG girls, and I can build a connection with.

I completely agree with this. I'm kinda trying to go the same route, have a small list of women I've seen and enjoyed my time with, and who don't take forever to respond / set up an appointment.

I've been trying to set up a meet with Jessica Fox too because she has been very well reviewed on here, but so far to no avail. I might give up after a couple more tries maybe.

[NeedSiteAccess]

I don't doubt girls get contacted often, but I think her influx is partially driven by her rate structure too. Ginger is "cheap" by most standards given her looks / lack of demons, I believe $100 QV / $150 HH. Honestly I'm surprised she hasn't raised that, and she probably could command something in the $150 / $200 / $275 range for QV / HHR / HR. That's true even if I'll never see her. CBJ is a dealbreaker for me personally, and I'm probably not going to see a girl if I don't think I can get her to go bare full service eventually. Ginger isn't that.

But, broader point is that if these chicks are getting hundreds of calls a day. They aren't going to respond to 95% of you. Whether or not you get a response is either due to dumb luck or maybe you've seen her once before and get on a preferred list... she has your name in her cell, she remembers she had a good time with you, and you weren't an unbathed oaf.

Fighting with hundreds of other dudes to fuck doesn't really jive with "GFE" to me. So if you're like me and that's what you're after, you either:

1. Pay more. If a girl doesn't do QVs and is $300+/ hr, she prices out a decent chunk of Raleigh men that aren't willing to pay that. They might still message to try to haggle, but she'll block and move on.

2. Find a girl that likes you and stops advertising. Maybe she was on STG or whatever, gets a catalogue of 100 guys she likes, and rotates through a few every day. These girls would rather fuck 3 guys for an hour each that they know rather than do 12 QVs with randos.

Number 2 ends up being dumb luck more than anything else.

People complain all the time about prices, but if I want to fuck a girl, I don't want to text 10 - 15 girls that aren't atrocious looking, pray for a response back, and hopefully not get ghosted. I know I'm not the only one that has taken hours to lock down a date, taken a shower, hopped in my car, drove 30 minutes to some sketch ass hotel, and ended up ghosted or bait / switched. Time is money, and if I waste a half day with bullshit, that's time I could have been working. I'd rather pay $400/ hr to a higher end girl that isn't going to waste my entire afternoon setting up a meet, is a decent lay, is more attractive than 95% of STG girls, and I can build a connection with.

[Tawayem]

Not sure if this appropriate for this thread, and if it isn't, my apologies. The main reason I'm posting this here because my thoughts are still unstructured and this will probably come off as a ramble.

CarolinaPack's post in the main thread about Ginger having to ignore hundreds of calls a day kinda brought up some thoughts and made me want to chime in.

I am unaware of what Ginger's rates are, but it feels like she is indeed the unicorn in our fair city. No demons, no third parties, young, good looking, not expensive at least if not cheap, and most have mentioned a good time and experience (I have not dreamed of her so can't comment).

Are there any providers that are, in your opinion roughly equivalent to her? The closest I could think of IMO is Ashleigh, but it looks like she has gone AWOL due to having issues with demons. Although on my first meeting she also showed me her phone screen for a few seconds where she scrolled through a list of unknown messages from unknown numbers, presumably people wanting to make an appointment.

Are there any other providers that satisfy what would constitute a "happy medium" for you? What constitutes a happy medium for you anyway? At what point do you say a) Okay this is not worth the risk. That risk may be junkies, flakers, scammers, possibly Uncles, or even thieves who will try to rob you at knifepoint (I read that post and was horrified not going to lie), or whatever other risk that may pop up. Or b) This isn't worth the money, where you think it's a case of GPS (I actually had to look that up because I had no idea). That the experience did not match up to what you expected / hoped for, or maybe there was something that was off the menu that you think should've been available for the price you paid / would be paying.

For me personally, I'm always looking for GFE. The hobby has been more of a stress reliever for me than anything else, and just being able to experience an intimate moment with someone is what I'm looking for. That usually eliminates most providers on the lower end because they either do not offer GFE, or are junkies, or carry other risks (I can't even imagine what I'd do in that knifepoint scenario. Just freeze and let them rob me I guess). It also makes this a little expensive for me, and hence less frequent, but you make your trade offs right?

Apologies once again, I know this will pretty much look like incoherent rambling, but wanted to put it down and get your thoughts on it.

[Shadows1517]

So we all are against paying these deposits. I'm thinking of setting up Cash App and telling the ladies that ask for deposits to send me their deposit if half. When we meet I will refund their full deposit and we can then agree on how badly they want to make money as a Service Provider that day and time. That I will pay in cash if agreeable. - with the understanding that it I get exceptional Service I have the option to tip them.

Take over the Hill, flip the script on the deposits and then maybe try ghosting a few of them after they pay. Sound about right? Take the leverage back. !

[NeedSiteAccess]

Buying the Hill. Going to make the Gays move to the front. Couples, straight men, women, in the back. All will be redesigned to fit clientele. Gays enter the front entrance only. All others enter in new back entry. Single Males remember straight. This area will have a dress code, bathrooms with attendants. Women admitted free plus given a cash gift card as a gift for Ladies night. All for naught theHill is not moving. Moving on. Current inventory, prices, newbies, reviews, ads. Low, high, be nice to, no more half ass, need to allow only if the pass the smell test.

Should make the gays use the backdoor. Only fitting.

[Bb211]

Buying the Hill. Going to make the Gays move to the front. Couples, straight men, women, in the back. All will be redesigned to fit clientele. Gays enter the front entrance only. All others enter in new back entry. Single Males remember straight. This area will have a dress code, bathrooms with attendants. Women admitted free plus given a cash gift card as a gift for Ladies night. All for naught theHill is not moving. Moving on. Current inventory, prices, newbies, reviews, ads. Low, high, be nice to, no more half ass, need to allow only if the pass the smell test.

[Ignoramus]

Fair enough sir. Just thought laying every societal issue and war on religion was wandering into full retard territory. I'll say what A2 would say. I'll shut the fuck up and get back to talking about pussy.

I thought I was replying out of the Rant and Rave forum, so I let it fly! Sorry! Feel free to move it to there! My bad.

[Ignoramus]

Fair enough sir. Just thought laying every societal issue and war on religion was wandering into full retard territory. I'll say what A2 would say. I'll shut the fuck up and get back to talking about pussy.

Honestly, I didn't even see the ruckus my post caused until now. Religious conflict throughout world history is, indeed, the primary driver of war. Do we need to have a history lesson? From your post, you must think the US of A is the Center of World History. Religion is well-known as the curtain that all-too-many people (especially Americans) hide behind, to make everyone in the congregation, the school, their job, the rotary club, their neighborhood (and their own household and spouse and kids!) believe they are a right-of-center, responsible, khaki-wearing, faithful, straight, tee-totaling White American Male, so that no one suspects their secret dick-sucking, pantyhose-wearing, little-boy fondling, BTK-torture, ass-gaping, erotic auto-asphyxiation, or whoremongering in general.

I have to ask about you, the Man behind the Myth? Is that name a coincidence? Do you tell people at church about your hooker fetish? Seriously? You're going to come on this fucking board and lecture someone about not worshiping Jesus?

FWIW, I did my time (8 years) in religious school. I had it forced down my throat and saw enough of those people to know by age 13 that anyone who believes Mr Jesus had a father who miracled a bunch of goddamn ash, fire and dust into humankind billions of years before science has proven we were fucking created, is a fucking idiot.

Yes, I am a proud card-carrying atheist (as are many of my friends. Who went to college and who are married!

Check out the freedom from religion foundation. Anyone who sends me unsolicited handwritten mail (you know what I'm talking about!) gets signed up for that organization. Do you think people want to receive your fucking religious spam in your mailbox? Well, do I have some mail for YOU good neighbor!