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  1. #3243
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    Both of you made a similar point about outcall being a risk for the providers. But those same arguments could be said when clients travel to them. Clients are going to a strange place. It is taking up the clients time to travel back and forth but Men don't push that cost of travel on them. Its an it your problem how you get to them and how you get home. Which I feel should be the same for providers.

    I'm against paying upfront before you see a provider in person which paying the providers transportation to come to you involves. But lets say one does that. How are you justifying paying their cab/travel home? The client gave them the donation. The provider should find their own way home. Just like what happens to clients when they leave an incall. The provider can't use the excuse they can't afford a cab/train fare after having received the donation.

    In general I just avoid them and not go to the conclusions I have reached. It up there with women that say they dont provide BBBJ or BBFS but have several videos in their ad that feature it with several different men. But that another story.
    You're making their point for them.

    InCall: the client pays for travel (for themselves) and a lower fee.

    OutCall: the client pays a higher fee and for travel.

    Either way, the client pays (either in time or in $).

    That said, I think outcall is a greater risk to the client. Assuming you live in a nicer area / building, you're essentially inviting Jane Blow to your home and don't have a strong means of ensuring she's not crazy or looking to rob you or whatever.

  2. #3242
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    Posts: 1040
    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon39  [View Original Post]
    Going by the 'business perspective' of the girl, outcall is higher risk, especially if they are independent. Providing transportation through uber guarantees safety and the higher price covers time spent travelling back & forth, making it worth their while. Distance don't matter, if you got the green then they come to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddinger  [View Original Post]
    The increase in fee is because outcall takes more of their time than incall. In addition to the actual cost of the travel to any out all there's also the extra time they have to spend in transit, packing a bag, plus the increased risk to them by entering a strange place, etc. So they ask you to pay a little more for that time and risk on their part. It's totally fair.
    Both of you made a similar point about outcall being a risk for the providers. But those same arguments could be said when clients travel to them. Clients are going to a strange place. It is taking up the clients time to travel back and forth but Men don't push that cost of travel on them. Its an it your problem how you get to them and how you get home. Which I feel should be the same for providers.

    I'm against paying upfront before you see a provider in person which paying the providers transportation to come to you involves. But lets say one does that. How are you justifying paying their cab/travel home? The client gave them the donation. The provider should find their own way home. Just like what happens to clients when they leave an incall. The provider can't use the excuse they can't afford a cab/train fare after having received the donation.

    In general I just avoid them and not go to the conclusions I have reached. It up there with women that say they dont provide BBBJ or BBFS but have several videos in their ad that feature it with several different men. But that another story.

  3. #3241
    The increase in fee is because outcall takes more of their time than incall. In addition to the actual cost of the travel to any out all there's also the extra time they have to spend in transit, packing a bag, plus the increased risk to them by entering a strange place, etc. So they ask you to pay a little more for that time and risk on their part. It's totally fair.

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    What is the deal with providers who do that? Have higher outcall rates plus have you pay their way. There are many who do this will provide example below. She isn't hot but just represents the concept I keep seeing. Are there men out there really saying yes to this or do you all avoid it?

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/summer-fun/39696778
    .

  4. #3240
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    It is nothing personal toward these women. It just from a business perspective. I asked to get an idea if other people here are actually pay for all that. My view is what is the point of going lets says 150/200/250 incall to 200/250/300 outcall and asking the client to pay the uber/cab both ways. Isn't the whole point of the increased outcall rate for their travel. If they outcall only I avoid them. If they offer incall I consider waiting until they do incall but often just move on. I never argue with them about it.

    I'm thinking what I'm seeing is just an overall trend of providers asking for more for less. I remember pre-Uber/Lyft women actually took the train to me for outcalls or walked. Now providers have been as close as 5 blocks away and still ask me to uber them both ways.
    Going by the 'business perspective' of the girl, outcall is higher risk, especially if they are independent. Providing transportation through uber guarantees safety and the higher price covers time spent travelling back & forth, making it worth their while. Distance don't matter, if you got the green then they come to you.

  5. #3239
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    Posts: 1040
    Quote Originally Posted by Nsugen  [View Original Post]
    If there are that are honestly willing to do this, don't take it out on the girls. The girls are simply hustling.
    It is nothing personal toward these women. It just from a business perspective. I asked to get an idea if other people here are actually pay for all that. My view is what is the point of going lets says 150/200/250 incall to 200/250/300 outcall and asking the client to pay the uber/cab both ways. Isn't the whole point of the increased outcall rate for their travel. If they outcall only I avoid them. If they offer incall I consider waiting until they do incall but often just move on. I never argue with them about it.

    I'm thinking what I'm seeing is just an overall trend of providers asking for more for less. I remember pre-Uber/Lyft women actually took the train to me for outcalls or walked. Now providers have been as close as 5 blocks away and still ask me to uber them both ways.

  6. #3238
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    What is the deal with providers who do that? Have higher outcall rates plus have you pay their way. There are many who do this will provide example below. She isn't hot but just represents the concept I keep seeing. Are there men out there really saying yes to this or do you all avoid it?

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/summer-fun/39696778
    If there are that are honestly willing to do this, don't take it out on the girls. The girls are simply hustling.

  7. #3237
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1040

    Providers who charge extra for outcall plus ask to to pay their way back and forth.

    What is the deal with providers who do that? Have higher outcall rates plus have you pay their way. There are many who do this will provide example below. She isn't hot but just represents the concept I keep seeing. Are there men out there really saying yes to this or do you all avoid it?

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/summer-fun/39696778

  8. #3236
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomem803  [View Original Post]
    Does she require a screening?
    Thai Jenn requires a little bit of screening not too hard if you're active in the area. She's out of town now though (Vegas Baby), as far as I know she won't be back until August.

  9. #3235

    Bin's rate and braces

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBest69  [View Original Post]
    Bin damage is $$.
    I usually opt for the full hour $$ If I remember correctly HH is $$. 2. BTW her braces are off, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that yet!

  10. #3234

    Petite Thing

    What's up ya'll.

    New to the site but been in the game for a min.

    I used to see this shorty post awhile ago always wanted to shoot the gun on it but never did.

    She's back posting now asking $300 hr is it worth it or what?

    Any info to help a fellow monger?

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/s...-real/22320019

    All is appreciated.

  11. #3233

    Becky Blond China doll at GFE GOLD midtown

    They have her pic on twitter / gfegold and gfegold.com 347-656-0014.

    The spa I had to book in advance and show some I'd to verify, actually was easy, and when I showed up the mms greeted me warmly and had me wait in a small lounge with a bottle of water an some candys for 10 minutes. Then out comes Becky. Wow! 20's, blond, super cute and hot.

    Becky greets me with a kiss and we go to her room. She undresses me and we hug and chat and she puts towel around me, she's naked! And she gets into a towel too takes my hand leads me to the big table shower room. We do the mouthwash toast and then tits a nice standing p2 p and dfk kiss, then kneels down and takes my hardening cock and sucks the life into it, licks the head and balls too. I could cum right now but she stands up for the shower. Next she lays me down and soaps me all over front back, rinse. Toothpaste on asshole to minty clean me for. Yes she get up and starts licking my butt and lifts my ass and I oblige and she spreads my cheeks and goes in deep feels great and she licks my balls and reverse es my cock and sucks that too. Turn over and we 69 her kitty is all wet from shower and fresh and I bury my face in her ass and pussy, feel her clit press on my tongue. She's sucking faster and I CUM in her mouth she sucks and licks me clean and washes us off with the shower head.

    Part 2 we go back to the room and we cuddle a bitt she sucks me hard again and gets the cover on, 10 minutes left by the clock, go doggy and Becky rubs my balls and guides me in, go hard and she gets a second pop out of me not as strong but good nonetheless. Hot towel cleanup. She insists on helping me dress and puts my socks on too sweet girl!

  12. #3232
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSecreto  [View Original Post]
    Anyone check out this spot yet?

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tanny/63358200

    Back in the city for work and tempted to check this out. Any reviews would be appreciated.
    I believe this is the same crew that used to be 'paradise New York' in the east 40's, but I'm not 100% certain.

  13. #3231

    Latinas on 52nd

    Anyone check out this spot yet?

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tanny/63358200

    Back in the city for work and tempted to check this out. Any reviews would be appreciated.

  14. #3230

    Fiorellas Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeIsLive  [View Original Post]
    It's been a few years since I visited Fiorellas girls. In the last month I've seen two and and had 2 different experiences. Fiorellas crew was always reliable, affordable and open late and a lot of the girls used to be BBFS friendly but not so much anymore. But they are easy to deal with and the pics are usually accurate so I decided to make a return visit about a month ago because I was in a pinch it was late and they were available.

    The first lady I saw was Karol, red head latina MILF, she's been around for a while and I'd wanted to see her but it wasn't until now that I did. I had a great time, pics were a accurate, nice MILF body with fake boobs but a nice ass for doggie, super enthusiastic and friendly, bbj, full GFE, covered FS, dirty talk in spanish, popped twice, once cim and one facial. Offers greek as well, but I did not do it on my visit No rush, exactly the service you want and the price can't be beat.

    So I decided to try another girl that was on the roster, a young twenty something latina named Paola. Looked super cute in the pics, I wound up catching her on her last day (for now, fio's girls always seem to be coming and going) Got there and it was the chick from the pics, super cute, but once we got started and she wrapped me up for a CBJ I kinda knew where this was going, no lfk, let alone dfk, controlled daty, her boob job must be fresh the scars was so noticeable and wouldn't let you really touch or grab them. Had her in boring cg before she asked to turn over for doggie, at least the view was nice enough from behind to make me bust so I pulled out and busted all over her butt, which she was mad about and told me I should have busted in the bag. Mad but not too mad, I will say, she wasn't mean about it, her attitude overall was very sweet, however she didn't speak a word of english so maybe it got lost in translation. Anyway I figured that was probably going to be the best I was going to get from this chick so I got dressed and left after about 20 minutes. This is exactly the reason I stopped visiting Fio's crew in the first place- too many hot chicks providing shitty service.

    My new rule of thumb, and this is especially true with the latinas, but it applies to all really, the younger and hotter the girl the more lackluster the service these days it seems, so I will continue to stick with the more milfy variety unless I read really good reviews. Really, I've been in this situation enough times to have known this already, but sometimes those pics are tough to resist.
    Do you have a link to their website?

  15. #3229

    Thai Jennifer

    Quote Originally Posted by WierdNiceAhh  [View Original Post]
    I LOVE thicker Asian girls so I've been dying to see Jennifer for a while. She's a bit of a unicorn in the NYC metro area because around these parts there are very few Thai providers, and very few thick Asian providers, and here you have Jennifer with great reviews, great service, super stacked body, Thai girl but speaks good English. One of a kind. Anyways, saw on Twitter she's indie in for the week and jumped at the chance, painless scheduling using text, was given the address where she was hosting and headed over late night. Arrived, host opened door. Brought to room and boom there she is. Super stacked friendly Thai Jennifer with chin length hair and a sultry looking face. Had a very good time.

    Thai Jennifer has one helluva curvy body. Yes somehow didn't seem overweight at all just stacked. Huge breasts, big ass, but nice a firm skin tone is the thing I notice. She welcomed me warmly.

    Service was great, started with table shower, Manhattan style, including preview BBBJ and rimming.

    Top shelf blow job + head, BLS, rimming, varying technique lots of eye contact and great teasing. She would be great in porn. I enjoyed the private show LOL.

    The main event was great too. I spent most of it in K9, posted up behind her luscious ass, savoring those hips, loving the sensation and the view. She can take a pounding and seemed really into it actually. Excellent finish to an excellent session. I'll be back. Highly recommend trying Jennifer if you haven't already.

    Donation was 3 Roses. Her twitter is https://twitter.com/ThaiJennifer1 . Phone is 501-777-8424. Definitely check her out she doesn't stay in one place long.
    Does she require a screening?

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