Massage Parlor Reports

[HeelHound]

I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...w/754148702257

At least I could have spelled Panacea correctly if I was hoping for help. Sorry.

[Benz1]

"Save your money, don't go to the show. " Twice that proved the case with my interactions with the late Frank Zappa. The first was at the Fillmore East, two days before I shipped out to Vietnam. Paid for the tickets, waiting for them to perform. They jumped around, tuned up, but never performed. I swore I'd never give Zappa a dime again. Maybe five years later I was in London. Good friend says, "Wow -- "200 Motels" is showing -- let's go!" Then he told me was a film by Frank Zappa. "No Way!" That SOB stole my money once, but my friend persisted. Afterwards I realized that the first theft was Zappa's fault; the second, mine. BTW, Panacea is a great place at the price. And yes, best to give a handsome tip first time around for not much action. Then, the second time, when they're comfortable with you, and you, them, you can make your requests fully known. My experience there does not include FS, but it's priced accordingly.

I saw Frank Zappa in Muskegon at the Frauenthal Center for Performing Arts. Awesome show. It was right after televangelist Jimmy Swagger got busted with a hooker. Zappa had written some amazing new songs about Jimmy's Sanctified Johnson.

Back to Panacea. I tried your method of operating I was told this is how it works, when they first opened. All I was getting was DATY and a HJ in return. She was Poppin and I got a lousy HJ and spent way to much for No BJ.

That's when I started looking for guarantee for my money. The search takes awhile, I'm a patient man that doesn't like to get a raw deal.

Paying up on your first visit might not be for everyone who's hoping they will be rewarded well.
Save your money, I wouldn't buy that BS from that Ho
I moved on and glad I did.

[HeelHound]

I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...w/754148702257

[RichWalter1]

Sorry to hear, I have seen Aliese numerous times and thought she was awesome. My last visit with her was below par at best. I usually will give a lady the benefit of the doubt if they are off for an appointment, everyone has personal stuff going on, but I was taken aback by how non sensual the experience was.

For me personally my time and money will be spent elsewhere. If I ever go back to panacea, it'll be with Natalie or someone who has been more favorably reviewed recently. I don't want to try and figure out if this is becoming more of a trend with the ladies there or if it's only an exception.

Thanks. In my opinion, her attitude was beyond having a bad day.

[RichWalter1]

Damn that sucks, sorry that happened to you. I haven't seen Aliese in a while but usually she gets completely nude right at the start. I wonder if it was her time of the month, although that still is no excuse for the rudeness. I agree with the other poster that if you declined the flip, she didn't deserve a tip with that attitude but since she did the flip and HJ, I would have just tipped the minimal like $20 and maybe that would teach her to be a little more kind.

It sucked big time. Very disappointing. I will definitely not repeat with her. Thanks for your thoughts.

[RichWalter1]

Had that have been me I'd decline the flip and no tip. Rewarding bad behavior in any interaction anywhere simply encourages it. She could have politely told you no. When I did MPs 4-5 times a month and would try a new girl sometimes she wasn't ok with touching or some other detail but they were always polite about it. Seems common sense to me to be polite to a paying tipping client.

You're right. I shouldn't have rewarded bad behavior and with her attitude, it wasn't very enjoyable anyway. Declining the flip and no tip would have been the perfect response to her. I will remember that if anything like that ever happens again. I should have known better, called ahead and made an appointment with one of the girls I'm familiar with.

[JMaul]

I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

Sorry to hear, I have seen Aliese numerous times and thought she was awesome. My last visit with her was below par at best. I usually will give a lady the benefit of the doubt if they are off for an appointment, everyone has personal stuff going on, but I was taken aback by how non sensual the experience was.

For me personally my time and money will be spent elsewhere. If I ever go back to panacea, it'll be with Natalie or someone who has been more favorably reviewed recently. I don't want to try and figure out if this is becoming more of a trend with the ladies there or if it's only an exception.

[Love The Lips]

I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

Damn that sucks, sorry that happened to you. I haven't seen Aliese in a while but usually she gets completely nude right at the start. I wonder if it was her time of the month, although that still is no excuse for the rudeness. I agree with the other poster that if you declined the flip, she didn't deserve a tip with that attitude but since she did the flip and HJ, I would have just tipped the minimal like $20 and maybe that would teach her to be a little more kind.

[Monger01]

I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

Had that have been me I'd decline the flip and no tip. Rewarding bad behavior in any interaction anywhere simply encourages it. She could have politely told you no. When I did MPs 4-5 times a month and would try a new girl sometimes she wasn't ok with touching or some other detail but they were always polite about it. Seems common sense to me to be polite to a paying tipping client.

[Mystry12]

Went in to see Marie but she no longer works there, drew a relative of her's supposedly. Attractive early 20's very responsive nipples but I don't recall her name. $$$ MSOG, CBJ / FS. Couldn't get it up again after CBJ so no FS. Sweet, affectionate professional. Will repeat.

I understand that Marie is now at Panacea as Haylah. Have not personally visited with her though. Thanks for the info on Serenity.

[RichWalter1]

I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

[Cuminator]

Went in to see Marie but she no longer works there, drew a relative of her's supposedly. Attractive early 20's very responsive nipples but I don't recall her name. $$$ MSOG, CBJ / FS. Couldn't get it up again after CBJ so no FS. Sweet, affectionate professional. Will repeat.

[Moonglow913]

WaltK, Moonglow913 care to "enlighten" him / us again? I was not going to respond to your latest comments regarding how money can buy anything. Maybe you can tell everyone where you've flashed your "real money" 5 k at a time to get what you really want? Not everyone on this forum is on the same financial playing field as you. Sounds like you both are well off. Congratulations. People have other events in their life where they can't afford to fling around that kind of cash to see who's going to supply the condom. Maybe when I'm in my fifties I can be in your club. To be completely honest I'm glad some of these ladies don't do full service for the same exact reason I am not in the mood to bring an std home to the wife. This was actually what one of the providers said. She said, "isn't it a relief for you guys to know that we don't have sex with everyone who asks for it?" To that I say a profound thank you and hell yes. Condoms fail. For this reason I'll never be on the Escorts or Streetwalkers forums. I don't go to Bodyworks as often as I want due to the fun things in life like child support etc. But when I do go, I am always respectful and am far from the guy "spending his stimulus money". Maybe someday I'll be in your elite club of guys with "real money". Believe it or not, there are some ladies out there who actually can see the worth of someone other than what they can monetarily "flash / offer".

Being respectful and treating the provider right is going to get you more (and a better time) than when you are not. Likewise, more money will do the same. Combine the two and it will open doors (or should I say legs).

[JamesTheSloth]

Jersey is back! And just in time for summer.

Same great shape as before.

[TomTravis]

There will always be the grey area of what you want and what each girl is willing to do and for what price. WaltK has it right, with enough money any request can be had.

If you're talking about the 60 dollar jump between 120 and 180, I would stick with the 120 options. Most girls want to see you more than once before they give you their full menu and it still might not be what you want for your money.

In the words of the late great Frank Zappa, Save your money don't go to the show.(Don't Eat the Yellow Snow)

"Save your money, don't go to the show. " Twice that proved the case with my interactions with the late Frank Zappa. The first was at the Fillmore East, two days before I shipped out to Vietnam. Paid for the tickets, waiting for them to perform. They jumped around, tuned up, but never performed. I swore I'd never give Zappa a dime again. Maybe five years later I was in London. Good friend says, "Wow -- "200 Motels" is showing -- let's go!" Then he told me was a film by Frank Zappa. "No Way!" That SOB stole my money once, but my friend persisted. Afterwards I realized that the first theft was Zappa's fault; the second, mine. BTW, Panacea is a great place at the price. And yes, best to give a handsome tip first time around for not much action. Then, the second time, when they're comfortable with you, and you, them, you can make your requests fully known. My experience there does not include FS, but it's priced accordingly.