Agency Discussion and Reviews

[Shinshi]

That said, I have my ID with them too, but I never talked price and or certain sex act during my convo with mamasan.

All LEO has is my name and picture.

Actual court case with a friend of mine. He was arrested for solicitation of prostitution. He answered an ad on Backpage. Arrived and got busted. He was later on released because he had never mentioned a sex act. He said to have a good time. Although he was released, his name was in the news and he lost his job, his family and a lot of money while he was fighting this case. He was a university dean of admission too. He still lose although he won the court case. So the answer is no there is nothing to worry about. You have not committed any crime. The law is very specific. So no sweat there. Clubvip said in their ad " don't ask dumb questions". Now you know what it means.

If you want to be 100% sure there are a few more steps you can take. But as for now. I won't sweat none.

From my experiences the most you will get is a detective calling you and invite you to the station. Which happened to me once, I told the detective NO. End of story.

Well, I'd hope no one here would go into details over text or phone calls! Most reputable agencies won't tolerate explicit talk over their comms anyway.

But it's often as you say: some cops will embarrass mongers by blabbing to employers, fam, media, etc. Some might push a weak case forward even with circumstantial evidence (essentially going through the motions to further embarrass the defendant). However, the majority of cops are either too occupied or too lazy to go through all that. They've got bigger fish to fry. It's faaaarrrrr more appealing on their resumes to bust multiple johns in a planned, orchestrated sting. Does anyone really think they've got time to interview all hundreds of johns vetted by an agency with nothing to go off of except some redacted PII & cryptic texts? Be serious now.

In summary: don't incriminate yourself. Be mindful of what you say or text over the phone. As for in-person, keep thinking with your big head. If shit seems off or you've got an uneasy feeling, bounce and then apologize to the provider / agency once you're completely off the premises. And as RichmondPhoto & others have said earlier--refuse to cooperate in the absence of a warrant. Do as the Pot Attorneys have advised their clients--shut the fuck up!

[Bob O Rama]

It looks like the city of Fairfax has arrest reports, but they haven't been updated yet. So far the ones I see only date up to 4/29.

Best thing to do now is simply stand by and look as the arrest reports are updated. And if the names for the dates of around 5/5-5/6 when the reports and arrest reportedly happened look Korean then we'll know that they got the axe.

And even if the agency comes back, it looks like one of us will have to TOFTF and dive in again to see if everything is safe.

They are technically not located in the city of Fairfax, so those arrest reports won't show it. They are actually located in Fairfax County, however, FFX county's website does not appear to have the same weekly arrest reports.

On a side note, I'm curious what the procedure is during one of these busts. If a neighbor rats them out, don't the cops need a warrant before entering? Can't the girls just refuse to open the door or pretend no one's home?

[FloorHump422]

It's pure conjecture at this point, but the lack of media reporting or broadcasting about arrests by LE makes me think that perhaps they didn't find enough to actually arrest anyone or if they were detained, charge them with a crime. The steps taken by the agency to delete their footprint could just be them being proactive. We'll have to wait and see when the arrest reports are updated.

[Almel89]

It looks like the city of Fairfax has arrest reports, but they haven't been updated yet. So far the ones I see only date up to 4/29.

Best thing to do now is simply stand by and look as the arrest reports are updated. And if the names for the dates of around 5/5-5/6 when the reports and arrest reportedly happened look Korean then we'll know that they got the axe.

And even if the agency comes back, it looks like one of us will have to TOFTF and dive in again to see if everything is safe.

[Richmond Photo]

Universal Citation: VA Code 18.2-346 (2001 through Reg Session).

18.2-346. Being a prostitute or prostitution.

A. Any person who, for money or its equivalent, commits adultery, fornication or any act in violation of 18.2-361, or offers to commit adultery, fornication or any act in violation of 18.2-361 and thereafter does any substantial act in furtherance thereof, shall be guilty of being a prostitute, or prostitution, which shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.

B. Any person who offers money or its equivalent to another for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts as enumerated above and thereafter does any substantial act in furtherance thereof shall be guilty of solicitation of prostitution and shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

(Code 1950,18. 1-194; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14,15; 1980, c. 534; 1993, c. 609.).

That said, I have my ID with them too, but I never talked price and or certain sex act during my convo with mamasan.

All LEO has is my name and picture.

Actual court case with a friend of mine. He was arrested for solicitation of prostitution. He answered an ad on Backpage. Arrived and got busted. He was later on released because he had never mentioned a sex act. He said to have a good time. Although he was released, his name was in the news and he lost his job, his family and a lot of money while he was fighting this case. He was a university dean of admission too. He still lose although he won the court case. So the answer is no there is nothing to worry about. You have not committed any crime. The law is very specific. So no sweat there. Clubvip said in their ad " don't ask dumb questions". Now you know what it means.

If you want to be 100% sure there are a few more steps you can take. But as for now. I won't sweat none.

From my experiences the most you will get is a detective calling you and invite you to the station. Which happened to me once, I told the detective NO. End of story.

[KyungJean]

I'm not sure what you're trying to stir up here, but I'm willing to bet you money that he has nothing to worry about. And since they also have my personal info, I'm willing to bet that I too have nothing to worry about. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.

But since you think you know better than others, feel free to keep fear mongering.

You are probably right.

But if you really believe there is no risk, well. I don't know what to say other than you shouldn't confuse others with your misplaced confidence.

[Grafenberg]

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

You could be fucked by the government or society. Government trying to prosecute you, takes time and money. Your wife leave you and take everything. You lose your job and then it is difficult to find employment. How is it going to be going mass on Sunday? You know, worst case.

[Bob O Rama]

Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about!

I'm not sure what you're trying to stir up here, but I'm willing to bet you money that he has nothing to worry about. And since they also have my personal info, I'm willing to bet that I too have nothing to worry about. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.

But since you think you know better than others, feel free to keep fear mongering.

[KyungJean]

Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.

Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about!

[Almel89]

Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.

Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.

Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.

[Bob O Rama]

What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".

Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.

Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.

[Almel89]

I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.

What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".

[Bob O Rama]

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.

[GMarts018]

Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.

Just another reminder why providing drivers licenses or any other personal information for screening purposes is just simply not worth it.

[Shinshi]

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

Agencies supposedly delete our info after screening. Do I believe they actually adhere to that? Hell no, but I still believe we'd be okay even if that agency got busted.

Say the worst should happen: a sting is launched against an agency you're vetted with & all your info that you sent that agency had fallen into cop's hands. LE might have heavily redacted screenshots of your license, (fake) work info, a redacted credit card, your zip code where you live, etc which proves very little. Even if that agency logged dates visited & recorded how much paid per visit, LE might be able to conclude you were a customer at one point based on hearsay. But without video evidence of illegal acts, witnesses willing to testify against you, or a confession on your part--then LE has jackshit. Ultimately, it'd be too much work for LE to pursue every john in the scenario I just described. Far easier to roll up johns in the middle of the act, drawers dropped, money in hand, then to pursue a laundry list of johns from a newly-busted agency based on evidence that'd likely be labeled circumstantial.

I couldn't find the post, but I vaguely recall someone a couple years ago described how he got mail from lawyers & cops. Apparently, his info came up following a then-recent bust of an agency (perhaps Lotus Flowerz?). Cops wanted his willing cooperation or else they'd bring him up on charges & inform his employer. At the same time, lawyers offered to represent him in any solicitation case. Since no official warrant was ever delivered, he blew it all off as intimidation tactics. And think about it--if that guy had a family and they saw that mail, he'd be screwed. So it's a safe bet all that correspondence was merely just to screw with him since LE lacked the means (or energy) to truly push the case forward.

Hence why I say there's nothing to worry about. Personally, it's been almost a year since last visiting an agency & I'm not in any serious relationship--so LE truly has nothing on me. Just remember that if you are in a bind and LE is pressuring you to incriminate yourself? Do as these guys suggest & you'll be okay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0)!