Agency Discussion and Reviews

[Bob O Rama]

What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".

Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.

Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.

[Almel89]

I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.

What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".

[Bob O Rama]

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.

[GMarts018]

Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.

Just another reminder why providing drivers licenses or any other personal information for screening purposes is just simply not worth it.

[Shinshi]

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

Agencies supposedly delete our info after screening. Do I believe they actually adhere to that? Hell no, but I still believe we'd be okay even if that agency got busted.

Say the worst should happen: a sting is launched against an agency you're vetted with & all your info that you sent that agency had fallen into cop's hands. LE might have heavily redacted screenshots of your license, (fake) work info, a redacted credit card, your zip code where you live, etc which proves very little. Even if that agency logged dates visited & recorded how much paid per visit, LE might be able to conclude you were a customer at one point based on hearsay. But without video evidence of illegal acts, witnesses willing to testify against you, or a confession on your part--then LE has jackshit. Ultimately, it'd be too much work for LE to pursue every john in the scenario I just described. Far easier to roll up johns in the middle of the act, drawers dropped, money in hand, then to pursue a laundry list of johns from a newly-busted agency based on evidence that'd likely be labeled circumstantial.

I couldn't find the post, but I vaguely recall someone a couple years ago described how he got mail from lawyers & cops. Apparently, his info came up following a then-recent bust of an agency (perhaps Lotus Flowerz?). Cops wanted his willing cooperation or else they'd bring him up on charges & inform his employer. At the same time, lawyers offered to represent him in any solicitation case. Since no official warrant was ever delivered, he blew it all off as intimidation tactics. And think about it--if that guy had a family and they saw that mail, he'd be screwed. So it's a safe bet all that correspondence was merely just to screw with him since LE lacked the means (or energy) to truly push the case forward.

Hence why I say there's nothing to worry about. Personally, it's been almost a year since last visiting an agency & I'm not in any serious relationship--so LE truly has nothing on me. Just remember that if you are in a bind and LE is pressuring you to incriminate yourself? Do as these guys suggest & you'll be okay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0)!

[Almel89]

Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.

In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

[Bob O Rama]

For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.

Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.

[Tomk2323]

For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.

Thanks for the info. Where can one find this spreadsheet?

[FacelessBoy]

For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.

[FloorHump422]

They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.

Maybe they got tipped off about a potential bust and are going dark until things cool off? I don't think LE would force them to remove reviews or keep their website inactive rather than unlisiting it. I think when the busts happened in Seattle, forum posts and reviews were archived as evidence, but weren't publically deleted.

[LuckyLuciano00]

They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.

The neighbors probably ratted them out. Man, I really hope Sinbi goes back to CP or goes to AG.

[Bob O Rama]

Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.

They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.

[Tomk2323]

Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.

Same for me. I texted to see Sinbi again but no response. Saw her on Tuesday.

[FloorHump422]

Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.

[Shinshi]

I'm not sending obnoxious or demanding messages, just simple and basic like "Hello my name is blank, age blank, in the blank area. I'm interested in meeting blank and would like to start the screening process, please let me know what information you'd like me to provide, thank you".

I've sent a few to DS, both email and text, three messages total over the course of 3 weeks, but I haven't received a response. Should I keep persisting, or no, if they don't respond that means they're not looking for new clients?

I completely get that you're new, but you should really dive deeper into these forums. This question's been answered several times over both here & the "Escorts" subforum. My first few weeks here were spent reading countless pages worth of advice. There's a treasure-trove of info, some of which gets buried but is nevertheless available if you keep scrolling.

Anyway to answer your question: I'd refrain from texting / calling entirely until you're a verified member. Not 100% certain if DS operates the same way as AG (even though I'm verified with both), but AG's booker once told me she preferred unverified folks to stick with email communication. Texts / calls were specifically reserved for verified. Granted, this was 2018 - 2019. But I doubt much has changed.

Furthermore, I recommend emailing a reminder once every few weeks, not once a week. Most sites list their screening requirements, but DS is indeed lacking in this regard. Just fill out their form on the site, have at least one solid provider reference handy (two is better) when they do ask for it, take a pic of your drivers license while blurring out everything except the zip code and photo--and they'll get back to you eventually. Word of caution: DS is notoriously slow when it comes to screening new clients. Took me almost a year to get screened, and I nearly gave up on the process before getting their random approval many months later.