Rants and Raves

[Sgt Soros]

You will have to thank President Trump and Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccines through testing and emergency recognition in record time plus getting the cross-country testing sites set up so quick using the military, civilian first-responders, and corporate America so fast. Oh yeah, also, without using war-powers got many businesses to voluntarily switch production to much needed supplies and equipment like ventilators and out the major cities.

Operation Warp speed helped but I give most of the credit to the Pharma industry's development efforts over the past 20 years to create the building blocks for a mRNA vaccine. The entire template for a vaccine was just sitting there waiting to be used. Once the Chinese sequenced the COVID gene it took only weeks to develop a vaccine.

Trump's rollout of the COVID vaccines was a dismal failure, he fucked up the logistics of getting said vaccines into peoples arms. Trump set a target to vaccinate 20 million people by the end of 2020. The sad reality, fewer than three million people had received the first vaccine dose at the end of 2020.

[TheRabbit]

Covid is more deadly than H1 N1 so more people will die common sense, but more people were infected by h1 n1 and Biden and crew couldn't have done far worse.

No they did a great job and you know why because we still had pandemic response team at the time that did their jobs and it's insane to me that you still think Trump did a better job despite the horrible death rate under his administration.

[RogerOver]

You will have to thank President Trump and Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccines through testing and emergency recognition in record time plus getting the cross-country testing sites set up so quick using the military, civilian first-responders, and corporate America so fast. Oh yeah, also, without using war-powers got many businesses to voluntarily switch production to much needed supplies and equipment like ventilators and out the major cities.

Typical answer. Nothing and it was all Trumps fault.

Get a different story this one is getting old fast.

All I asked for was what they are doing to fix it. Your answer "they have 12 months. " Bullshit I'm not waiting 12 months for "nothing was done" What are they specifically doing? Since you don't know then consider yourself a kool aid drinker, believing everything CNN says.

The worst covid response would be calling someone racist for shutting down travel in response to the virus. That is what your president did. Congrats sheep.

I'd ask for some of the shit you retards are smoking. But then I check a few posts and realize this is your natural state. Stupid. I've never seen bigger sheeple than people that think trump did anything other than fuck shit up. Hey, got some disinfectant I can inject? Maybe some UV light? Of course, it's tricky to keep that light in the syringe and all. LOL.

[TheRabbit]

You will have to thank President Trump and Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccines through testing and emergency recognition in record time plus getting the cross-country testing sites set up so quick using the military, civilian first-responders, and corporate America so fast.

For one thing, it's important to realize that inventing a vaccine is only the first step. After the vaccine exists, then it needs to be manufactured en masse and then distributed in the right way to get that vaccine out of warehouses and into veins. All three of these steps are equally important.

Operation Warp Speed did seem to have some effect on step one. My understanding is that these vaccines did go from the testing phase to approved quicker than normal. That at least we should give Trump credit for. I'm not certain if Trump helped the process of actually inventing the vaccine or not--I think all these major companies were putting a lot of resources into creating a vaccine anyway for obvious reasons so I wouldn't be surprised if it was really only the regulatory hurdles getting smaller that had any effect on how quickly the vaccine was developed.

But that's only the first step. And this is where Operation Warp Speed stops and where Biden's criticism of lack of a plan begins. It appears that Trump had no plans to address any other part of this problem. He had no efforts in place to aid manufacturing or distribution of the vaccine. This is worthy of immense criticism.

For example, the White House under Biden brokered a deal between Johnson and Johnson and Merck (who are competitors) where Merck will help manufacture J&J's vaccine. This is a huge victory for step 2. This is something that likely would not have happened without governmental leadership, especially in a capitalistic system where competitors don't decide to help each other.

The third step is next. Trump did get some criticism here because distribution was largely put in the hands of the states, and some states did a better job than others. I find it hard to blame Trump for the mistakes made here because he was already on his way out and there will likely always be some early hiccups. But it is worthy of criticism that there was no plan for distribution that Trump was able to then give to Biden so that the new administration could hit the ground running. Hopefully we don't need to go over why this should be an issue presidents help each other on.

If you want, I suppose you could criticize Biden for not having an immediate plan to handle the distribution for the vaccines we do have already. I think this is a bit unfair, especially since the pace has picked up rather significantly in the past month and Biden has been clear this is his top priority.

[Sgt Lurker]

Well, we are only 100 days into Biden's first term as POTUS. Biden /Kamela have at least 12 months to fix the border issue which should not really be a problem when you consider that Biden has allowed the US to go from having one of the worst Covid responses in the world to being a global leader in getting shots in arms. Please take a guess as to how many miles of border fencing your former el presidente built in 4 years? Surprise, surprise, trump built a total of 47 miles of fencing and Mexico did not pay a damn Peso for it.

You will have to thank President Trump and Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccines through testing and emergency recognition in record time plus getting the cross-country testing sites set up so quick using the military, civilian first-responders, and corporate America so fast. Oh yeah, also, without using war-powers got many businesses to voluntarily switch production to much needed supplies and equipment like ventilators and out the major cities.

[DadDillac]

Well, we are only 100 days into Biden's first term as POTUS. Biden /Kamela have at least 12 months to fix the border issue which should not really be a problem when you consider that Biden has allowed the US to go from having one of the worst Covid responses in the world to being a global leader in getting shots in arms. Please take a guess as to how many miles of border fencing your former el presidente built in 4 years? Surprise, surprise, trump built a total of 47 miles of fencing and Mexico did not pay a damn Peso for it.

Typical answer. Nothing and it was all Trumps fault.

Get a different story this one is getting old fast.

All I asked for was what they are doing to fix it. Your answer "they have 12 months. " Bullshit I'm not waiting 12 months for "nothing was done" What are they specifically doing? Since you don't know then consider yourself a kool aid drinker, believing everything CNN says.

The worst covid response would be calling someone racist for shutting down travel in response to the virus. That is what your president did. Congrats sheep.

[Sgt Soros]

Kamala is not handling shit at the border. She is worthless, tell me what she has done.

Well, we are only 100 days into Biden's first term as POTUS. Biden /Kamela have at least 12 months to fix the border issue which should not really be a problem when you consider that Biden has allowed the US to go from having one of the worst Covid responses in the world to being a global leader in getting shots in arms. Please take a guess as to how many miles of border fencing your former el presidente built in 4 years? Surprise, surprise, trump built a total of 47 miles of fencing and Mexico did not pay a damn Peso for it.

[SkyWookie]

He is handling it better or have you not watch the news? And also while yes 65 million people were infected by the H1 N1 pandemic, only 10,000+ people died and that's a hell of a lot better than the other guy can say.

The president of the united states' has NO control over oil prices.

Food prices are rising globally, it's not just the US.

https://boingboing-net.cdn.ampprojec...FQArABIA%3D%3D
Kamala handling that.

Covid is more deadly than H1 N1 so more people will die common sense, but more people were infected by h1 n1 and Biden and crew couldn't have done far worse.

Of course presidents through negotiation have the ability to keep fuel prices under control, also by promoting fuel from within, Trump made us oil independent which drove prices down, now under Biden its out of control.

Kamala isn't handling anything besides honestly running her mouth.

Seems like the only thing you do know rabbit is "How to be a troll of the forums". Congrats on being good and knowing something about anything.

[DadDillac]

He is handling it better or have you not watch the news? And also while yes 65 million people were infected by the H1 N1 pandemic, only 10,000+ people died and that's a hell of a lot better than the other guy can say.

That is why CDC says we were lucky H1N1 was not as deadly, because we did an awful job of handling it.... Point is Joe has done nothing to handle it. But you cannot stand on what Joe has done, you can only bash the other guy

The president of the united states' has NO control over oil prices.

Do you really believe that???? that is so sad that you are that stupid and you vote

Food prices are rising globally, it's not just the US.

Why did food suddenly shoot up when Joe and his Hoe were elected?

https://boingboing-net.cdn.ampprojec...FQArABIA%3D%3D
Kamala handling that.

Kamala is not handling shit at the border. She is worthless, tell me what she has done.

[TheRabbit]

Here is the Truth. Biden won the election.

Biden needs to handle Covid better than he did H1 N1 (65 million infected in US).

He is handling it better or have you not watch the news? And also while yes 65 million people were infected by the H1 N1 pandemic, only 10,000+ people died and that's a hell of a lot better than the other guy can say.

Biden needs to address oil prices.

The president of the united states' has NO control over oil prices.

food prices that are killing the poor

Food prices are rising globally, it's not just the US.

https://boingboing-net.cdn.ampprojec...FQArABIA%3D%3D

Biden needs to address the crisis at the border

Kamala handling that.

[DadDillac]

Keep smothering 'em with the truth and watch the board nut-jobs slinker away into the shadows with tails between the legs.

Here is the Truth. Biden won the election.

Now if his supporters can defend what he is doing without bashing Trump it will be a miracle. I don't give a shit what Trump would have done, he is not president Biden is and Biden needs to handle Covid better than he did H1 N1 (65 million infected in US). Biden needs to address oil prices and food prices that are killing the poor. Biden needs to address the crisis at the border.

There is no time to blame it on everyone else. The time is for him to fix it and if he cannot fix it move over and let someone qualified do it.

[RogerOver]

Too bad UV light doesn't work for you idiot Left wing radicals to clear you brains. Guess their is no cure for your stupidity.

"There" (FTFY) might be a cure for it. Get rid of all stupid fuckers on the far right. Yup. That'd do it.

Some of us aren't "Left-wing radicals," but it gets fucking old watching all the right-wing revisionism and general ridiculous shit that goes on. Without shame or irony, grown-up congresspeople were using Twitter to say red meat would be outlawed. Seriously, if I were a cow right now, I'd be worried about the rightards buying us all up because the gubment's coming for your cows! How would anyone conclude that the right is anything but fucking retarded when that's your standard-bearers?

Side note, I was wondering what happened to Tmeister. It looks like he finally lost his mind and pissed off A2.

[Admin2]

Rabbit / Tmeister

I don't think so though. Tmeister was always about being inflammatory 100% of the time. Rabbit may be one dimensional in the same way you are but he lacks the lunacy that Tmeister had. I could be wrong, maybe Rabbit is Tmeister's real account but the voice in his writing is completely different.

[Runon99]

conservative Republican, who by the way, is how Lyndon Johnson got his voting rights bills passed because it sure was not with the help of Demoncrats.

This has been a conservative talking point for as long as I remember -- I have used it myself -- but it's also a myth. Back then there was a species called "liberal Republican" -- now functionally extinct. Similarly there was such a thing as a conservative Democrat -- also extinct for the most part.

Here is the final roll call on the vote in the Senate. Good luck finding the conservative Republicans who provided the mythical margin of victory on the bill.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409

[SkyWookie]

When asked about the Supreme Court he would not answer because then the election would be about his answer.

When asked about ending the filibuster, he gave no answer.

When asked about the Capital Gains tax he did not give an answer.

The list goes on and on and on.

BTW. MLK would be very upset about how his vision has not been thrown out by certain people and more accepted by the conservative Republican, who by the way, is how Lyndon Johnson got his voting rights bills passed because it sure was not with the help of Demoncrats.

Rabbit / Tmeister doesn't have the brain capacity to be able to read complex documents or process actual video, he probably got picked up on the side of road while he was playing with his free Obama phone, and was fed a happy meal in exchange for his vote for the democratic party. Trying to reason with someone on this level just isn't going to work.