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  1. #13435
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    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    TB,

    Finally if you want to impact her. Arguing with her in the club is not the way to do it. Simply come on a message board and post your experiences. Other guys will avoid her, or be cautious when going with her so the same thing doesn't happen to them. She is a very beautiful girl and likely most guys in the club would like to go with her, but she won't get many repeat customers doing this, and word gets around that she is not a good time and you will find her prices will drop and her services will expand. Lastly there a no secret in the strip club. Girls talk and if the remember you are the guy that had a problem with Athena they may not want to go with you. If you are trying to get the best girl based on your subjective opinion you do not want to have a reputation as someone causes trouble and is a risk for a bad VIP session.

    MM.
    Should we create a list of girls to avoid and pin it as the first message on the thread? All it has to have is.

    Name: Club.

    It will be easy to look up the list, right now at the club in front of the girl I have to search the forum.

  2. #13434
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    With all due respect, I'm going to choose not to believe that statement.
    Me neither. I read all of this thread with interest, and have a few points:

    1. I get the valet thing. I don't like it either. Yeah, they can't steal your car. They can't not let you leave. I get all that too, you always have a recourse against that, the nuclear option of calling the police (or using the spare fob in your pocket). However, it gives them a certain bit of leverage over you that's better to be avoided. I have never, ever, had this issue in 20 years+, and not just in the D. FL, NJ, KY, GA, TX, etc. But I have heard it a few times. So I believe it can happen. I guess once it's looking that way, you have to decide what price are you willing to pay to make it go away.

    2. When the girl pulls her stunts ("pay me more money" and / or not doing what she agreed to), get up, ask for a sound count, if it sounds generally correct to you, pay her for the songs and walk away. If there is a dispute, ask the troll for the song count. This is where it can be a he said she said situation far as whether you paid or not (she can claim you didn't pay) and then if management takes her side, all you can do is walk and never come back (this happened to me at Cricket). I told the manager it was an interesting business decision of his to lose the $1 K a month I was spending (and had been for 10 years) over a $100 dispute. Guess he didn't go to Wharton. I saw someones point about there are only a few clubs so you can't just keep getting kicked out of them, yeah I get that. I didn't want it to go this way, but the guy (who freaking knew me) enraged me so much by taking some chicks side over a damn $100 was just too maddening for me to ever set foot there again. Plus, do you want to frequent a business that you now know is managed by someone so idiotic? Who knows what would happen in a worse situation. So, byebye Cricket for me, forever, no regrets.

    3. If you pay the girl up front, all bets are off. You lose every argument and have zero recourse. That is why many of us say time and time again NEVER do that and always walk away after paying for one song if she insists. Yes, I stupidly did this before, and paid the price. Soon as my pants were down, she literally bolted. All you can do is spread the word of who it was and live to fight another day (or hour). Again, NEVER EVER pay up front.

    I could go on forever on this topic and I am sure I am not 100% right either, but the point of this forum is to share experiences and advice to one another.

  3. #13433
    Quote Originally Posted by SilentStorm  [View Original Post]
    Well, it will remain a dream for now! Thanks for the intel folks, on Blue at the Cricket. But too bad, heard she was fired yesterday? Anyone else can confirm & on what happened?

    And a long shot question (probably too early) - which club is she going to jump to?

    Other than the disappointment. Met Aria, nice & easy to talk to. Did offer BJ for 1. 2 but I did not partake. Ran out of time and had my expectations high with Blue to begin with. Anyone knows the days Aria works? Thinking of going back soon.

    Play safe. Over & out.
    I'm curious. How does a dancer get fired at the Criket?

    If you visit the Criket and Cassandra is working, she's worth a trip to the VIP.

  4. #13432

    Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by SilentStorm  [View Original Post]
    Well, it will remain a dream for now! Thanks for the intel folks, on Blue at the Cricket. But too bad, heard she was fired yesterday? Anyone else can confirm & on what happened?

    And a long shot question (probably too early) - which club is she going to jump to?

    Other than the disappointment. Met Aria, nice & easy to talk to. Did offer BJ for 1. 2 but I did not partake. Ran out of time and had my expectations high with Blue to begin with. Anyone knows the days Aria works? Thinking of going back soon.

    Play safe. Over & out.
    She's at BTS. Monday tues Wed and Sat

  5. #13431
    Quote Originally Posted by SilentStorm  [View Original Post]
    Well, it will remain a dream for now! Thanks for the intel folks, on Blue at the Cricket. But too bad, heard she was fired yesterday? Anyone else can confirm & on what happened?

    And a long shot question (probably too early) - which club is she going to jump to?

    Other than the disappointment. Met Aria, nice & easy to talk to. Did offer BJ for 1. 2 but I did not partake. Ran out of time and had my expectations high with Blue to begin with. Anyone knows the days Aria works? Thinking of going back soon.

    Play safe. Over & out.
    She's at BT she told me she quite due to lack of business at cricket.

  6. #13430

    Out of Blue Dream

    Well, it will remain a dream for now! Thanks for the intel folks, on Blue at the Cricket. But too bad, heard she was fired yesterday? Anyone else can confirm & on what happened?

    And a long shot question (probably too early) - which club is she going to jump to?

    Other than the disappointment. Met Aria, nice & easy to talk to. Did offer BJ for 1. 2 but I did not partake. Ran out of time and had my expectations high with Blue to begin with. Anyone knows the days Aria works? Thinking of going back soon.

    Play safe. Over & out.

  7. #13429
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamarr  [View Original Post]
    It was still busy when I arrived at 11:20-ish. And yeah, I was hunting, on the prowl. It was an expensive night, $$$ and then I was generous after that, but I'm still smiling. Worth every penny. Mad skills. Great fireworks too.
    Definitely, as long as the girl is your type. Forcing yourself on girls you wouldn't talk to in a bar just for the sole purpose of saving money will leave you with potentially bad memories later on, it's why I never consider SW anymore.

  8. #13428

    Veda

    Heard she was pregnant. Where does she dance at? And when usually?

  9. #13427
    Quote Originally Posted by MotorMonger  [View Original Post]
    What was the dmg on the BJ? I drove past FC last night and it was packed with cars! You must really be in the mood, I imagine the competition must be fierce!
    It was still busy when I arrived at 11:20-ish. And yeah, I was hunting, on the prowl. It was an expensive night, $$$ and then I was generous after that, but I'm still smiling. Worth every penny. Mad skills. Great fireworks too.

  10. #13426
    Quote Originally Posted by Concupiscent69  [View Original Post]
    Yep. I know a guy who owns several of these clubs. The employee turnover rate is high. It's the nature of the business.
    Depends on the bar really. I know cricket and bogarts have had the same managers for quite a while now. H8 N has had a little bit of a turnover over the past year or so. Can't speak on the other bars.

  11. #13425
    Quote Originally Posted by TooBuku  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever just tried not paying when this happens? When the deal is broken. I understand the bouncer is going to say you owe per song. But what if we just say no. Where does it go from there?
    TB,

    I will throw my opinion in.

    First this is part of the game / experience / adventure. There are many girls out to cheat you. You are trying not to get cheated. You show me a guy who has not been cheated in a strip club and I will show I guy who is a liar. It happens from time to time and try to minimize it.

    Second I know the rules when I go back and I am supposed to pay for the songs. I was back there for 4 songs and if I wouldn't have paid I would owe that.

    Third, think with the big head. This is hard for some of us. I could fight it, I could cause a scene. But why do I want to do that? I go to the club to relax and blow some steam as well as other fluids. I have enough headaches in my personal life and work life. When I am in the strip club I want to enjoy the altered reality that I can have most of these girls.

    Forth, my goal for the night was to empty my load. That didn't happen with Athena. It was not big deal, I picked and different girl after and ended up enjoying myself, which was the purpose of my trip.

    Finally if you want to impact her. Arguing with her in the club is not the way to do it. Simply come on a message board and post your experiences. Other guys will avoid her, or be cautious when going with her so the same thing doesn't happen to them. She is a very beautiful girl and likely most guys in the club would like to go with her, but she won't get many repeat customers doing this, and word gets around that she is not a good time and you will find her prices will drop and her services will expand. Lastly there a no secret in the strip club. Girls talk and if the remember you are the guy that had a problem with Athena they may not want to go with you. If you are trying to get the best girl based on your subjective opinion you do not want to have a reputation as someone causes trouble and is a risk for a bad VIP session.

    MM.

  12. #13424
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    Not true, the bar isn't going to call the cops and say "this guy didn't pay for a sex act in the VIP" No SC wants LE at their club, it's bad for business. It's also your word against theirs, they say you didn't pay, I say I paid.
    In the past 3 years, I have seen it happen at least seven times.

  13. #13423
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    I did but it was on a different shift (days) about 3 months later, then again on nights about a year latter. I didn't recognize anyone.

    That would be up to the individual, I say yes but others will say no. Another thing to remember is staff comes and goes all the time at these clubs. The managers and bouncers that work there today most likely won't work there in six months to a year. And do you really think they care a year latter that you didn't pay a stripper that tried to rip you off? Maybe, maybe not? What's the worst they can do, tell you to leave? I'll go somewhere else and spend my money.
    Yep. I know a guy who owns several of these clubs. The employee turnover rate is high. It's the nature of the business.

  14. #13422
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    This is what happened to me. A stripper started playing her games about 3 songs in so I walked out on the 4th song. The stripper tells the bouncer I didn't pay her, the bouncer said I owed her $100, I told the bouncer I paid her, the manager comes over and asks what's going on, then tells me I owe her $100 or they will call the cops, I tell him to call the cops (he didn't). The bouncers (two of them) are stopping me from leaving and telling me I owe her $100 (in a very aggressive way), I said I paid her already and if they don't let me leave I will call the cops and press charges against them. This went on for about 5 minutes until I pulled out my phone and called 911 and told 911 that I was being held against my will at club X. They then told me I was banned from the club and to never come back. I left without paying her a dime.

    Now my car was parked on the street but even if it was valet parked I would still call the cops and told them I'm being held against my will and they are trying to steal my car. The bar will try and get you to pay, but at the end of the day they are not going to get in any legal trouble over a stripper that won't even be working there in 6 months because she OD or is in jail.
    Agree with all of this. The worse that will happen, other than the minor bouncer harassments, is banishment from the club. Smart play.

  15. #13421
    Quote Originally Posted by Shrekr  [View Original Post]
    I will give it to you, if you tell me that you went back to that same club another day with no issues.
    I did but it was on a different shift (days) about 3 months later, then again on nights about a year latter. I didn't recognize anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shrekr  [View Original Post]
    With so few clubs around, is it worth getting banned from one club for one bad experience or $?
    That would be up to the individual, I say yes but others will say no. Another thing to remember is staff comes and goes all the time at these clubs. The managers and bouncers that work there today most likely won't work there in six months to a year. And do you really think they care a year latter that you didn't pay a stripper that tried to rip you off? Maybe, maybe not? What's the worst they can do, tell you to leave? I'll go somewhere else and spend my money.

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