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  1. #18476

    Well said

    GnS -- well said -- words of wisdom from one more experienced than many (including me).

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Seldom have i had a good dream when the girl tries to gauge your wallet before the service begins. Most of the time they are trying to size you up and see if you'll be dumb enough to overpay and they can get away with doing the bare minimum of service while maximizing the profit. If that's how she started the conversation then it often means she's got a pretty good success rate of netting like $ for a simple HJ. I'm glad you didn't take the bait and stood your ground.

    I always ask what they are willing to offer. Sometimes I'll tell them flat out I'll give $. 2- 4 for FS and work my way down from there. Once they know my price cap and my expectations it gives them an idea about what service to give and if they want to offer less I will offer them less in return.

    But as I said before no good dream starts with exhausting negotiation. The "I take care of you and you take care of me" ladies I find are much more fun and worth my repeat business. Experienced AMPs with MMS usually drill that mentality into their girls as well.

    Nevertheless, thanks for your review!


    GnS

  2. #18475

    Depends what you are offering

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy72  [View Original Post]
    Had a few minutes to swing by J&why in burke recently. It was definitely a mixed bag.

    I rang the bell and was greeted by a reasonably attractive 40's-50's MILF type. Mask stayed on the whole time, but the body was nice. Good B-C cups by the look of things. A decent amount of cleavage on display and a short skirt.

    Asked how long and did I want a table shower. 30 minutes and yes. (I was planning to stay an hour, but got caught in traffic on my way there and didn't.

    Table shower was good. Not great, but good. She cleaned thoroughly enough (I've been far more thoroughly cleaned on the table at other places) and a nice little bit of stroking after cleaning the front side. Dried off and back to the room for massage.

    The massage itself was good. Considering it was only a 30-minute session, it was pretty thorough and actually worked out a few knots. After about 20 minutes and a hot towel wipe down, she donned the lights.

    Locked the door and started a very nice soft touch. Once I was thoroughly aroused she invited me to turn over. Here's where it went south, mostly due to my own choice of words.

    She asked "how much money you bring today, honey?" I hate when they try to nail down a price in the middle. So I replied "I have plenty. " (I brought enough to fund an hour session and fund full service if offered and desirable.) she replied with "Twenty? And pulled away just as I was about to grab a hand full of one of her B / C cup breasts. I tried to clarify, but the damage was done. I told her I had a lot more than 20 and was happy to take good care of I'd her. No joy. She jackhammered me, kept as far away as she could get. After a couple minutes (she did slow down), she stated telling me time was up and I needed to cum. Game over. I told her to give up for tonight. Maybe next time. Dressed myself and headed out the door. I tipped better than 20 because the massage was good. Probably won't be back any time soon. But it's not so bad. I'm guessing the experience was at least 50% my fault.
    Seldom have i had a good dream when the girl tries to gauge your wallet before the service begins. Most of the time they are trying to size you up and see if you'll be dumb enough to overpay and they can get away with doing the bare minimum of service while maximizing the profit. If that's how she started the conversation then it often means she's got a pretty good success rate of netting like $ for a simple HJ. I'm glad you didn't take the bait and stood your ground.

    I always ask what they are willing to offer. Sometimes I'll tell them flat out I'll give $. 2- 4 for FS and work my way down from there. Once they know my price cap and my expectations it gives them an idea about what service to give and if they want to offer less I will offer them less in return.

    But as I said before no good dream starts with exhausting negotiation. The "I take care of you and you take care of me" ladies I find are much more fun and worth my repeat business. Experienced AMPs with MMS usually drill that mentality into their girls as well.

    Nevertheless, thanks for your review!


    GnS

  3. #18474
    Shill for some chick, ignore my posts


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  4. #18473

    J and why

    Had a few minutes to swing by J&why in burke recently. It was definitely a mixed bag.

    I rang the bell and was greeted by a reasonably attractive 40's-50's MILF type. Mask stayed on the whole time, but the body was nice. Good B-C cups by the look of things. A decent amount of cleavage on display and a short skirt.

    Asked how long and did I want a table shower. 30 minutes and yes. (I was planning to stay an hour, but got caught in traffic on my way there and didn't.

    Table shower was good. Not great, but good. She cleaned thoroughly enough (I've been far more thoroughly cleaned on the table at other places) and a nice little bit of stroking after cleaning the front side. Dried off and back to the room for massage.

    The massage itself was good. Considering it was only a 30-minute session, it was pretty thorough and actually worked out a few knots. After about 20 minutes and a hot towel wipe down, she donned the lights.

    Locked the door and started a very nice soft touch. Once I was thoroughly aroused she invited me to turn over. Here's where it went south, mostly due to my own choice of words.

    She asked "how much money you bring today, honey?" I hate when they try to nail down a price in the middle. So I replied "I have plenty. " (I brought enough to fund an hour session and fund full service if offered and desirable.) she replied with "Twenty? And pulled away just as I was about to grab a hand full of one of her B / C cup breasts. I tried to clarify, but the damage was done. I told her I had a lot more than 20 and was happy to take good care of I'd her. No joy. She jackhammered me, kept as far away as she could get. After a couple minutes (she did slow down), she stated telling me time was up and I needed to cum. Game over. I told her to give up for tonight. Maybe next time. Dressed myself and headed out the door. I tipped better than 20 because the massage was good. Probably won't be back any time soon. But it's not so bad. I'm guessing the experience was at least 50% my fault.

  5. #18472

    One step forward two steps back

    QQ spa at 6283 Franconia.

    Historical dreams of this place have been a mixed bag for me. It's changed owners a few times and has gone from a FS spa to a standard NOVA and now I guess it's trying to pass itself off as legit.

    My first dream with Tina several months ago was pretty good. It was a good massage followed by a topless NOVA and while it wasn't the best it was a good enough to keep the name in my back pocket for a rainy day.

    I don't know what went wrong today, but when I went to roam she smacked my hand away. She still sang the rhythm of happy endings but wouldn't let me see the goods. I asked her what makes today different than our past history, and she told me that the boss doesn't want to keep this kind of service. I get that. But this is why we have the grandfather clause.

    I told her what happens behind locked doors can stay behind locked doors, and that the secret can remain safe between us if she wanted to pursue mutual ventures and make a little more tip. But she refused. I could get behind the idea of not wanting to give a HJ at all but she tried to go for this lame ass half-measure. I dont do half-measures; Ive been with plenty of ladies who draw a line. We progress to a certain point and they draw the line in chalk and I respect the boundaries. But Ive never gone backwards until today, and have the boundaries encroach on places previously explored. You can wear any kind of painted face you want, but I've already seen under the mask. I got up and left. Thanked her for the massage and tipped her for massage standards. It was a good massage I can't take that away from her.

    She then sighed and said business has been super slow. Gee I wonder why? It can't possibly have anything to do with the fact that you're a massage parlor surrounded by AMPs willing to do service far beyond what you're now willing to give. I wished her luck in her new hopeless crusade but I doubt a "legit" spa can compete while in the shadow of its former self and new paradise and Franconia wellness looming over them just a few doors down.

    -Sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose. GnS.

  6. #18471

    Oasis Or Pine Spa?

    Has anyone ventured into Oasis Spa in Dumfries or Pine Spa in Woodbridge? If so, what girl would you recommend? I love a nice "rack". TIA.

  7. #18470

    Catalina

    https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...y/9818711.html

    Anyone have experience with this one? Seems to be part of the ring at Tysons where "Melania" used to be. She definitely wasn't the girl in the pics but still pretty hot and skilled. Is it the same with Catalina or Kimbella?

    Any info appreciated. Thanks!

    NS.

  8. #18469

    Ina

    Quote Originally Posted by Schmoopy  [View Original Post]
    Pics are real. Her body is ridiculous. Massage is CMT level as well. I don't think extras are available beyond STD NOVA, but worth a try if you appreciate deep tissue massage.
    I agree, pics are definitely her. Massage is very good, sometimes a bit to hard (and I like hard) that you have to ask her to take it easy. YMMV, but more might be available, but I have also seen her many many times over many years.

  9. #18468
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzhiLang  [View Original Post]
    I always thought private viewing is only for HJ. So now they are open to FS? Total damage of 340 might not be too bad for FS if the girl is hot.
    It's a gamble, dependent on the girl and it usually costs extra. The amount that extra is also varies by girl. Don't go in expecting FS to happen all (or even most) of the time.

  10. #18467

    Just wanted to know about Amber. That's all

    Quote Originally Posted by DmvMonger  [View Original Post]
    I respectfully suggest you take one for the team (TOFTT) and report back. It's what I'm doing to build up "board cred. ".
    Respectfully, I'm glad that you have a plan to build board cred. It sounds like you do not have the information I was asking about. Which is no problem. It is not my focus to have high posting numbers, but I'll share if I have something valuable to say (good / bad) and will add to the group. I really do not dream often. I normally stay in very small rotation and have already told the story of them dreams. SO to be clear again. I don't have high posting numbers but for anyone that I see ask a question and If I have intel I will share it.

  11. #18466

    Worth a visit

    Quote Originally Posted by OhShiftTheCops  [View Original Post]
    https://nova.bedpage.com/therapeutic...a/9559342.html

    I want to have a dream with Ina but its pricey for 30 minutes so wanted to see if anyone has experience. Review site is vague.

    Will post detailed review if I try, just looking for intel.
    Pics are real. Her body is ridiculous. Massage is CMT level as well. I don't think extras are available beyond STD NOVA, but worth a try if you appreciate deep tissue massage.

  12. #18465
    Quote Originally Posted by RyanHarvey  [View Original Post]
    Some of the best FS I've had has been at PV spots.
    Definitely agree.

    More attractive girls in general though YMMV applies to PV more than any other venue. Can differ between girls, agencies and even same girl on different visits.

  13. #18464

    Toftt

    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok2001  [View Original Post]
    I am interested in a visit but just want to check to see if its worth it. Does anyone have any feedback on her?

    https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/ce...a/9661953.html
    I respectfully suggest you take one for the team (TOFTT) and report back. It's what I'm doing to build up "board cred. ".

  14. #18463
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzhiLang  [View Original Post]
    I always thought private viewing is only for HJ. So now they are open to FS? Total damage of 340 might not be too bad for FS if the girl is hot.
    Some of the best FS I've had has been at PV spots. It's mostly college girls trying to make a buck and hide their job from their boyfriends.

  15. #18462
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatNewGuy149  [View Original Post]
    I usually don't go to PV places but I was in the area and I said why not. I contacted DT and they replied pretty quick. Saw who was available and decided to go with Ellie after seeing some reviews. Showed up and texted I was there. They told me where to go and I found my way to the front door. I knocked and the door opened. Went inside and saw Ellie. She has a very tight body and long blonde hair. She showed me to the room and told me to undress and said she would be right back. I left the donation on a small table and got ready. She soon came back in and was in and I was already ready on the bed. She's very easy to talk to which is great. She not always in the area but she says she travels back and fourth about once a month for a couple days. Anyways she began to give me a massage on my back and on my legs, not much teasing and after about 10 mins I felt her get up and asked me if I wanted to flip and so I did. When I flipped there she stood fully undressed. I didn't take much to get me to attention. She got back in the bed and began to straddle me. Now before I let anything else happen I asked her to get a cover to which she giggled and had to leave the room to go get one. I'm not willing to go without a raincoat but I know some of why'll out there enjoy it so I thought I'd let you know. We started in some RCG and then moved to Doggy and after Mish. She wanted to show me this one position where we were like grinding which felt great and right then I couldn't hold it and I popped. Gave me some wipes and showed me to the shower to get cleaned up. After I got dressed and she gave me a hug and I was on my way. I went for an hr which cost me $$ and then the donation was $. 4 so total damage was a good amount. It was my first time with her so I thought why not just go big and see what happens.

    https://www.discreettempus.com/alani

    Pictures seem to be older because now she has some enhancements that I was not expecting but was not upset about it either haha.
    I always thought private viewing is only for HJ. So now they are open to FS? Total damage of 340 might not be too bad for FS if the girl is hot.

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