Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[Charming1]

There is no site anywhere that is less of a scam than P411. I've seen at least 100 women from there, and with the exception of one, they were all four and five star experiences. If you save yourself one bad date, the 99 more than pays for it. And I promise you that you couldn't put together a site like P411. Gina, the woman who put it together, had impeccable standards and business ethics, and the new owners seem to be sticking close to her very successful business model. Not everyone gets approved, and if there is hanky panky that is verifiable, you're gone in a heartbeat. Find me one person who has been kicked off of EA or STG. That person doesn't exist. So I get where you're coming from (in theory), but you couldn't be farther off in your assumptions / guesses.

Interesting how how informed you are regarding my website abilities. Yes. I could quite easily build what I have seen of the site in 30 minutes. Also interesting how aware you are of my "assumptions / guessing". It was actually observation. Possibly English isn't your first language.

My point since it sailed way over you head, was quite clear; It is a site supposedly for meeting girls. Paying to join a site (that, sorry, looks like it was built by someone using Weebly for the first time) that gives no assurances that there are A) girls or B) anything beyond an "application". Joining and paying under those circumstances is stupid.

I've built more sites and apps than the accumulative that you have likely yet figured out how to use.

But thanks for playing.

[Tyler32]

Been talking with her and have a meet tentatively set up, but it feels weak. Any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/8260e...4-c6c7b001511f

I just started communicating deep with her as well in the last couple days. Good start on communicating and she has great pics but something seemed off too. She ultimately posed a vague way of saying money upfront and pre meet "cause she got burned before" and when I asked for clarification and said I don't do that she got very bitchy. Possibly I just upset her or she wasn't very interested but my gut tells me she is playing games and looking for easy marks as her schedule and interest allows.

[Indyguy1565]

Good to know. She never responded after our initial back and forth.

Update. Had it all set up for today at 2:30. I told her it was a far trip, but was really just down the street from my place. 3 minutes at most. She pretended to be in the area but was nowhere to be seen, said she was looking for me and blah, blah, blah. Waste of time.

[Mr Popular]

Just started talking with her today. Please keep us posted if she follows thru.

Update. Had it all set up for today at 2:30. I told her it was a far trip, but was really just down the street from my place. 3 minutes at most. She pretended to be in the area but was nowhere to be seen, said she was looking for me and blah, blah, blah. Waste of time.

[EarlyCuyler]

I've not seen any "free mode" or trial or anything but spending a minimum of 99.00 just to open an acct on p411 before even having the ability to see if A) there are any girls, B) there are girls under 411 lbs 😂, C) WTH?

Opening an acct prior to seeing anything but an application that can be disapproved?

I've done some stupid things in my life. But not quite that stupid. I could put that site together in about 30 minutes complete with merchant account and a nifty auto responder that emails you daily telling you of all the incredible perfect 10's that are asking when YOU are going to complete your membership because they are absolutely desperate to sleep with YOU! YES YOU!

I call the most poorly executed scam I've yet to see.

YMMV

There is no site anywhere that is less of a scam than P411. I've seen at least 100 women from there, and with the exception of one, they were all four and five star experiences. If you save yourself one bad date, the 99 more than pays for it. And I promise you that you couldn't put together a site like P411. Gina, the woman who put it together, had impeccable standards and business ethics, and the new owners seem to be sticking close to her very successful business model. Not everyone gets approved, and if there is hanky panky that is verifiable, you're gone in a heartbeat. Find me one person who has been kicked off of EA or STG. That person doesn't exist. So I get where you're coming from (in theory), but you couldn't be farther off in your assumptions / guesses.

[Guysmiley]

Been talking with her and have a meet tentatively set up, but it feels weak. Any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/8260e...4-c6c7b001511f

Just rediscovered the site. I met with her back in 2014 when she was in College. 25/26 is probably closer to real age. She has been off and on the site since. Assume plans are weak until she arrives.

[Guysmiley]

Been talking with her and have a meet tentatively set up, but it feels weak. Any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/8260e...4-c6c7b001511f

Just rediscovered the site. I met with her back in 2014 when she was in College. 25/26 is probably closer to real age. She has been off and on the site since. Assume plans are weak until she arrives.

[Indyguy1565]

Just started talking with her today. Please keep us posted if she follows thru.

Been talking with her and have a meet tentatively set up, but it feels weak. Any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/8260e...4-c6c7b001511f

[Mr Popular]

Been talking with her and have a meet tentatively set up, but it feels weak. Any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/8260e...4-c6c7b001511f

[Mr Popular]

I'm also texting with her and was supposed to meet in Anderson this morning. Went quiet last night. She messaged this morning that she will just "randomly message you next time I come to Indy". She lives in Ft. Wayne she says. Sounds like a runaround.

This one has been on the site for awhile but changed her name a few times (same profile) so I can't check reviews. Anyone actually met her or had any experiences. We've been texting for awhile and finally set up a meet. Her profile and photos suggest she is ready to go, but some of her text messages make me think otherwise.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2c454...5-6ad428f5354f

[IndyGuy85]

This one has been on the site for awhile but changed her name a few times (same profile) so I can't check reviews. Anyone actually met her or had any experiences. We've been texting for awhile and finally set up a meet. Her profile and photos suggest she is ready to go, but some of her text messages make me think otherwise.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2c454...5-6ad428f5354f

[WhatABurger]

This was a hotty here at Purdue but guess she found a dummy to buy her a plane ticket, $400 shoes, and spending money. Give it a shot! Also says she's a virgin. LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/63a5b...5-0b63009519e9

[Bigred2006]

I've not seen any "free mode" or trial or anything but spending a minimum of 99.00 just to open an acct on p411 before even having the ability to see if A) there are any girls, B) there are girls under 411 lbs 😂, C) WTH?

Opening an acct prior to seeing anything but an application that can be disapproved?

I've done some stupid things in my life. But not quite that stupid. I could put that site together in about 30 minutes complete with merchant account and a nifty auto responder that emails you daily telling you of all the incredible perfect 10's that are asking when YOU are going to complete your membership because they are absolutely desperate to sleep with YOU! YES YOU!

I call the most poorly executed scam I've yet to see.

YMMV

You can get a free trial by having a couple girls vouge for you. And I get your point but if you've never used it then you're response is lacking any validation. While the site is old and very basic, p411 has been around for a long time and there's a reason, it provides an easy to approve way to see higher end escorts than having to give them my work email, picture of my license, etc.

I've been using p411 for about 30 days and have schedule 5+ meetings in one request that would have taken multiple emails and text messages before. The ROI appears to be there for me.

[RedWoodIndy]

I've not seen any "free mode" or trial or anything but spending a minimum of 99.00 just to open an acct on p411 before even having the ability to see if A) there are any girls, B) there are girls under 411 lbs 😂, C) WTH?

Opening an acct prior to seeing anything but an application that can be disapproved?

I've done some stupid things in my life. But not quite that stupid. I could put that site together in about 30 minutes complete with merchant account and a nifty auto responder that emails you daily telling you of all the incredible perfect 10's that are asking when YOU are going to complete your membership because they are absolutely desperate to sleep with YOU! YES YOU!

I call the most poorly executed scam I've yet to see.

YMMV

P411 is as about as reputable of a site as can be. Not currently a member but have been for about the past ten years and used it extensively while traveling and it was a tremendous help in finding girls in cities where you have no references. The providers use to give you "okays" I believe, and the more okays you had the better your chances were. Some of the higher end girls would seek a minimum of 3 or 5 okays before they would see you. Locally not very many girls used this service but in a lot of major cities you could have quite the selection and a couple of emails later and you were all set up. The girls use to provide pics, info, services provided, so you weren't going in totally blind about what kind of experience you might have. So probably not worth the expense if you don't travel as Indy has a great selection with DI, but if you travel a lot I highly recommend it. Stay safe, redwood.

[Prince Numenor]

It's probably just me. I'm an older guy but generally have done OK on seeking but seem to have hit a dry spell. Anyone else feeling the same way? I've become more picky and generally can pick the scams which is stopping me from messaging some but I still send out quite a few messages-nothing. I'm also not replying to VoIP text numbers. I'm OK. Being going back to some past sb's and reconnecting and also have some regular sb's who I see regularly and really like but fresh every once in awhile is exciting. Are there any alternatives to seeking that work? I generally like the concept of the sugar baby over a professional provider. Numenor.