Non Pro's

**Marko Ramius** · 04-02-21 18:23

Originally Posted by VanDawg [View Original Post]

... how many #4's are out there.

Generally I've found that the very best results, both in terms of how much fun we have and how much I spend, have been with the milfy ladies between thirty and about forty-five.

Funny obligatory story: There was a milfy blond, about forty, who I saw for about a year and a half. One time she called me shithouse drunk with a tale of woe, and since I happened to be staying at a pretty nice hotel in Bellevue that night I got a taxi to go get her from the bar where she was too drunk to drive from and bring her to me. Well anyway we had a pretty fun night (and morning) after that. During a late breakfast she kind of freaked out and quickly moved herself to the other side of the table. I looked up and a young lady who looked remarkably like her was exiting the elevator with an older guy. It was her daughter and it was kind of funny that her daughter was getting her freak on at the same hotel where I'd plowed her mum.

I still keep an eye out for her daughter on the websites, because like mother, like daughter.

**Joe Spaur** · 04-02-21 17:14

Originally Posted by FlashLidar [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/55880...b-600fac41e35f

Here's the good: Real girl. Real hot. Vietnamese 19 yo that will take it bare. No CIP since she's not on birth control. She has a tongue ring and swallowed two loads. $400 3 hours.

Here's the bad: she reached out to me a week later asking for an advance for a trip w her bff. She even offered to meet before she left, but I had a scheduling conflict. I sent her the cash. Little head was hoping for a duo. She came back. We were in the process of scheduling a date. Then comes the excuses. "I'm on my period, etc". Then she ghosts me. And now she has blocked me on SA.

See her for a good time, but never ever prepay even after she takes your man batter. LOL.

Thanks for the warning. I've seen her many times and didn't have any problems. Sorry that happened to you.

**IWantHead** · 04-02-21 15:38

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inb...4-5d4a04ee656a

Semi-pro 300 for 90 minute massage at legit studio. CIM and CIP, but have to be extremely quiet due to the location.

https://www.seeking.com/member/491ef...9-e31c236278d5

Wanted money without meeting to know I was serious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a6f76...1-8f606f1ba662

$1 k per meet, will not host.

Will try to be better about posting what I come across. Greatly appreciate all the good intel on here.

**Flash Lidar** · 04-02-21 14:57

https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3

https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3

https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3

She has quite a few videos on this subject.

https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/

**VanDawg** · 04-02-21 13:38

Originally Posted by MaCross19 [View Original Post]

1. The girl who wants to get fucked by one (or a few guys) and get paid but not be a full on pro. These can be had for anywhere from $250-$500 (won't go above that) per date or 1. 2 k-2. 5 k per month if you can get them to cool their jets and wait to get paid every couple of weeks. Some are even a lot of fun to take on dates and such. Others just want to get to business. Most will go multiple rounds and be up for uncovered if you can "prove" you are clean.

2. The young sluts- they are just out of high school or in college. Check I'd. Typically they don't go too far over 40. Usually not the most experienced but fun in their own way.

3. The shit shows- usually with daddy issues, a substance abuse problem or horrible time management skills. In my experience more trouble then they are worth, but sometimes you get someone like Jenna or Marcy https://www.seeking.com/member/f644f...a-64ed51fed9ac who has good skills and is worth the bullshit. YMMV.

4. The divorced- sometimes they just want a date, other times they need the full blown Arrangement with an allowance. My experience is you can convert from a paying customer to a friend with benefits or actual relationship if you want.

This is a great summary and advice. The other things to note is there are obviously a ton of scammers and flakes, and this is a long game. Have some patience as there is a ton of turnover.

I used to only go for the under 25-ish crowd but opened up to all ages and you'd be surprised how many #4's are out there.

**Flash Lidar** · 04-02-21 10:24

https://www.seeking.com/member/a3475...c-57b0d1f7b982

Wanted me to send 63 for cell bill before meeting. I told her that I would help her with that in person. She replied "I'm not comfortable without my phone". Bye. SMH.

**Flash Lidar** · 04-02-21 09:29

Originally Posted by Bronco62 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a22c...6-63b84543de26

Wants $100 to meet, said $400 for intimate date. I bailed, I don't pay for first time in public dates. My guess is that you will never hear from her again after she has your $100.

You are correct, sir. See my post #4062. She will remind you to bring the 100, spend 15 mins, act and say that she wants to be intimate on the second date before ghosting and blocking you. She will create a new acct every couple of months and uses different photos of her. The pics and person are real. She's just a scammer.

**Bronco62** · 04-02-21 05:48

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a22c...6-63b84543de26

Wants $100 to meet, said $400 for intimate date. I bailed, I don't pay for first time in public dates. My guess is that you will never hear from her again after she has your $100.

**Flash Lidar** · 04-02-21 02:39

https://www.seeking.com/member/c4b86...4-77c333e5758d

Artist girl with a good sense of humor. Decent looking blonde but a bit quirky for my liking. Larger than expected natural boobs. Petite but not tone or fit. She actually had a little beer gut going. LOL. Gives a mean gluck gluck 9000 with swallow and loves it. She originally wanted 1 k and landed on half for 4 hours of fun. Covered first date and will prolly go bare after 1-2 more meets, but I'm going to pass since we wasn't my type.

**MaCross19** · 04-02-21 01:18

Originally Posted by GreenCandles [View Original Post]

Hey guys. Longtime 'other board' user looking to spice it up with SA.

What can I expect to happen on SA? Like what are normal prices etc. Is it worth the 99 dollar monthly fee? Are girls flakes over there? What's the benefit to SA instead of just hitting up the other board?

Any tips and / or advice for an SA newbie would be greatly appreciated. Either here or in a PM. Thanks!!

Depends on what you want, you want an actual arrangement? Want sex with lots of women? Have a particular fetish you are trying to get scratched?

If you weed through the pros, catfish, and game players there tends to be a couple that I have found:

1. The girl who wants to get fucked by one (or a few guys) and get paid but not be a full on pro. These can be had for anywhere from $250-$500 (won't go above that) per date or 1. 2 k-2. 5 k per month if you can get them to cool their jets and wait to get paid every couple of weeks. Some are even a lot of fun to take on dates and such. Others just want to get to business. Most will go multiple rounds and be up for uncovered if you can "prove" you are clean.

2. The young sluts- they are just out of high school or in college. Check I'd. Typically they don't go too far over 40. Usually not the most experienced but fun in their own way.

3. The shit shows- usually with daddy issues, a substance abuse problem or horrible time management skills. In my experience more trouble then they are worth, but sometimes you get someone like Jenna or Marcy https://www.seeking.com/member/f644f...a-64ed51fed9ac who has good skills and is worth the bullshit. YMMV.

4. The divorced- sometimes they just want a date, other times they need the full blown Arrangement with an allowance. My experience is you can convert from a paying customer to a friend with benefits or actual relationship if you want.

Biggest piece of advice- play up the man of mystery angle- they want to be Carrie Bradshaw and you be their mr big.

Don't ever discuss sex on the actual site, you only need one bitchy customer to report you to get banned.

If you have a specific type you are going for feel free to pm me, I might have some contacts to get you hooked up.

**Anonymous420** · 04-01-21 21:31

Originally Posted by GreenCandles [View Original Post]

Hey guys. Longtime 'other board' user looking to spice it up with SA.

What can I expect to happen on SA? Like what are normal prices etc. Is it worth the 99 dollar monthly fee? Are girls flakes over there? What's the benefit to SA instead of just hitting up the other board?

Any tips and / or advice for an SA newbie would be greatly appreciated. Either here or in a PM. Thanks!!

A year ago I would have said that although you'll have to put in some work to find a non-pro / non-gps person, these days it seems to be mostly pros and semi-pros with GPS. I re-upped a few weeks ago and it's been a much tougher slog though than I had experienced previously.

Also, many many scammers who want to dine and dash on a meet and greet. One had me text "her" at a 720-996-xxxx number, responded that the site wasn't for them, and over the next few days my Snapchat was flooded with friend requests. So there's data harvesters in the mix as well.

So probably more work than before. Is it worth it? That'll be for you to decide.

Tip: If they favorite you first out of the blue with no conversation, they're probably a pro

**Anonymous420** · 04-01-21 21:19

https://www.seeking.com/member/4b733...0-30eadea5f13b

Managed semi-pro with GPS. Wants to get paid 300 for nothing (calls first date meet and greet and tries to bail quickly) and wants 500-800 per meet. Bad attitude, and fairly flaky.

**GreenCandles** · 04-01-21 17:59

Hey guys. Longtime 'other board' user looking to spice it up with SA.

What can I expect to happen on SA? Like what are normal prices etc. Is it worth the 99 dollar monthly fee? Are girls flakes over there? What's the benefit to SA instead of just hitting up the other board?

Any tips and / or advice for an SA newbie would be greatly appreciated. Either here or in a PM. Thanks!!

**JustDc** · 03-31-21 19:25

Originally Posted by RainySeattleGu [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/5be68...d-dcd9caab038b

I have been talking to Sigarnspice2001 for a little bit and are planning to meet up in the next few days. She def gives a pro vibe in many respects but then seems a bit oblivious in others. Her photos look really familiar though, and her profile said she had a different account before. Wondering if anyone has had any experience with her?

She must be pinging everyone online.

**BoBroBgobs** · 03-31-21 19:16

Originally Posted by FlashLidar [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/55880...b-600fac41e35f

Here's the good: Real girl. Real hot. Vietnamese 19 yo that will take it bare. No CIP since she's not on birth control. She has a tongue ring and swallowed two loads. $400 3 hours.

Here's the bad: she reached out to me a week later asking for an advance for a trip w her bff. She even offered to meet before she left, but I had a scheduling conflict. I sent her the cash. Little head was hoping for a duo. She came back. We were in the process of scheduling a date. Then comes the excuses. "I'm on my period, etc". Then she ghosts me. And now she has blocked me on SA.

See her for a good time, but never ever prepay even after she takes your man batter. LOL.

Oh thanks for reminding me of her. We had scheduled to meet a couple of weeks ago after she came back from California. It seems both of us forgot. I might ping her to see what's up and yeah thanks for the warning!