Non Pro's

[Admin2]

I happen to agree with this post. I'm from LA and up here visiting. I can't believe how many girls think they're 🐱is worth paying just to meet and greet. I had two girls think they can have me pay just to take them out to dinner. Yeah not happening. I didn't realize this until I was having lunch and just over heard two different conversations. Two different sets of guys were showing that they were just there to please their GFs. Fuck sakes grow a spine and stand up for yourself.

This may or may not be about you. If you feel offended from my comments, your the guy that needs to grow balls!!

With that being said, any recommendation of any quick massage parlors with young masseuse is appreciated through PMs.

I think that it's funny as fuck that these guys are posting this stuff on a "non pro" thread. Somehow, some of these guys have got their heads twisted to think that there are chicks you pay for sex who are not hookers.

I'll never understand that.

[R Ryder]

I happen to agree with this post. I'm from LA and up here visiting. I can't believe how many girls think they're 🐱is worth paying just to meet and greet. I had two girls think they can have me pay just to take them out to dinner. Yeah not happening. I didn't realize this until I was having lunch and just over heard two different conversations. Two different sets of guys were showing that they were just there to please their GFs. Fuck sakes grow a spine and stand up for yourself.

This may or may not be about you. If you feel offended from my comments, your the guy that needs to grow balls!!

With that being said, any recommendation of any quick massage parlors with young masseuse is appreciated through PMs.

This is the problem with the PNW. I'm from another part of the country and I've noticed that for some reason a lot of the guys who grew up here, and even a lot of the transplants, are spineless little simps with mommy issues. They cow-tow and try to curry favor like these are potential girlfriends. They pay too much, say too much, and fuck it up for the rest of us. They try to impress or go above and beyond to please these women who truly care nothing for them and are in this solely for the money. How hard is it for these guys to figure out that this is all a game and you'll have a much better time if you play by the same set of rules some of us do?

An example I've used here before, I went to see this nympho SB on the younger end of middle age that was referred to me by another hobbyist. My bare cock was in her mouth within 2 minutes of meeting her for the first time. I know for a fact she's been getting paid to take loads on the regular and has been doing it for a while. She loves it and is horny in the best possible way but when I showed up she acted coy and said it was her first time and doesn't really do this thing that often. JUST PLAY ALONG, kids, it's not that hard. Do I tell this one that I'd bet she's probably got two more dudes coming over later in the day? No, that would dumb. I played the game and blew a couple loads in her holes and left with her believing I believed her story. Don't offer more than you have to and use only enough of the truth so that you can remember what you told her if it comes up again.

I'd also bet money it's a lot more of a problem with the younger guys. At my job I know I can count on the 40+ crew to pull their weight, not complain unless it's warranted, and get the fucking job done. But I also have some mid-20's to mid-30's guys I supervise and if this is what we're leaving the world to I have little faith in the survival of our species. Collectively they lack confidence in themselves, are ridiculously deferential to those they don't have to be, and act like they have to please everyone and everything which, in the end, means they rarely please anyone. A couple of them are so unsure of themselves I find it hard to believe they dress themselves in the morning and I'm not entirely convinced they do.

Back on topic. Having a spine doesn't mean being a dick to the women. I am always respectful but I know what I want and how much I'm willing to spend and unless a SB or hoor cops an attitude I'll just say 'thanks' and move on if they can't meet my requirements. If you can't handle these simple guidelines do the rest of us a favor and go back to watching porn in your mom's basement.

[Morgan Creamin]

I hate to admit it but it finally seems to have happened. All non pros I have contacted this month have turned out to be pros all covered with per hour rate but expecting frequency of meetings as if it was an arrangement. To those guys that kept pushing that behavior on SA, you succeded to turn it into another t and a. I suppose they wanted to have more of the same but i wonder why they couldn't keep getting ladies from t and a if that was what they wanted.

This is the problem with the PNW. I'm from another part of the country and I've noticed that for some reason a lot of the guys who grew up here, and even a lot of the transplants, are spineless little simps with mommy issues. They cow-tow and try to curry favor like these are potential girlfriends. They pay too much, say too much, and fuck it up for the rest of us. They try to impress or go above and beyond to please these women who truly care nothing for them and are in this solely for the money. How hard is it for these guys to figure out that this is all a game and you'll have a much better time if you play by the same set of rules some of us do?

An example I've used here before, I went to see this nympho SB on the younger end of middle age that was referred to me by another hobbyist. My bare cock was in her mouth within 2 minutes of meeting her for the first time. I know for a fact she's been getting paid to take loads on the regular and has been doing it for a while. She loves it and is horny in the best possible way but when I showed up she acted coy and said it was her first time and doesn't really do this thing that often. JUST PLAY ALONG, kids, it's not that hard. Do I tell this one that I'd bet she's probably got two more dudes coming over later in the day? No, that would dumb. I played the game and blew a couple loads in her holes and left with her believing I believed her story. Don't offer more than you have to and use only enough of the truth so that you can remember what you told her if it comes up again.

I'd also bet money it's a lot more of a problem with the younger guys. At my job I know I can count on the 40+ crew to pull their weight, not complain unless it's warranted, and get the fucking job done. But I also have some mid-20's to mid-30's guys I supervise and if this is what we're leaving the world to I have little faith in the survival of our species. Collectively they lack confidence in themselves, are ridiculously deferential to those they don't have to be, and act like they have to please everyone and everything which, in the end, means they rarely please anyone. A couple of them are so unsure of themselves I find it hard to believe they dress themselves in the morning and I'm not entirely convinced they do.

Back on topic. Having a spine doesn't mean being a dick to the women. I am always respectful but I know what I want and how much I'm willing to spend and unless a SB or hoor cops an attitude I'll just say 'thanks' and move on if they can't meet my requirements. If you can't handle these simple guidelines do the rest of us a favor and go back to watching porn in your mom's basement.

[Kinkaid69]

Hmm, I have my pic up. Aside from keeping it a secret is there a reason not to? I seem to be attracting GND types and gotten some good deals set up, though admittedly I've not met up with anyone yet.

Two reasons: Avoid using the exact same pic for your social media, they use reverse image search too. Most of them are more worried about exposure than we are though.

It's an excellent way to judge her interest level. If she doen't even bother to ask for your private pics, she's in it 100% for the $$.

[Kinkaid69]

To go back to before I read this.

man batter

[BbwBanger]

Ahhhh. I remember when Webbhoes introduced her to us. Fat little cumdumpster.

I guess she likes guys with big dicks. Who knew?

I have pumped her full of my man batter many times. Fat little thing. Not a bbw.

[JustDc]

Same for me, I have run into a mom from my kids school on there, girl that worked at the local Subway, another I had seen a few times shopping at Fred Meyer, and one that lives 2 doors down from a couple I know.

I haven't met up with any of them, 1 I messaged but that was it, now if I can see them they can see me, and I always wonder how many others are out there I haven't seen that could identify me.

Sounds like a nice neighbourhood to live in.

[BrstMan]

It's just for privacy / discreetness. It's important to me.

Same for me, I have run into a mom from my kids school on there, girl that worked at the local Subway, another I had seen a few times shopping at Fred Meyer, and one that lives 2 doors down from a couple I know.

I haven't met up with any of them, 1 I messaged but that was it, now if I can see them they can see me, and I always wonder how many others are out there I haven't seen that could identify me.

[BoBroBgobs]

Hmm, I have my pic up. Aside from keeping it a secret is there a reason not to? I seem to be attracting GND types and gotten some good deals set up, though admittedly I've not met up with anyone yet.

It's just for privacy / discreetness. It's important to me.

[Penitrator]

Hmm, I have my pic up. Aside from keeping it a secret is there a reason not to? I seem to be attracting GND types and gotten some good deals set up, though admittedly I've not met up with anyone yet.

I have one pic of me up, showing about 1/3 of my face, did not do anything to blur it out. My guess is if you post images of yourself on social media platforms, SBs may be able to get some personal information for potential blackmailing if you are married or have a SO.

I've met up with two so far that gave off a "pro vibe", went directly to asking for an hourly meet with corresponding rate. Just starting seeing someone who seems more like a traditional SB, we have text discussions during the day and had a good talk / conversation during our meet and greet at a local restaurant.

[BlackMarketBb]

I'm finding more and more scams these days. Scams in the sense that they want the money prior to the meeting or they want money to meet for coffee / lunch / dinner with no intention of meeting afterwards. Some clear signs of those that I'm seeing:

- They message you or favorite you first.

- They go straight into talking about the arrangement or sweet talk you about how they want to see you soon.

- They don't bother about knowing about you and about viewing your private pictures (ofcourse no one has their face on their profile picture).

- They don't have private pictures and all their hot pictures are public.

- And finally you don't have to court them at all. If it is too too easy then it's likely to be a scam.

Hmm, I have my pic up. Aside from keeping it a secret is there a reason not to? I seem to be attracting GND types and gotten some good deals set up, though admittedly I've not met up with anyone yet.

[BoBroBgobs]

I'm finding more and more scams these days. Scams in the sense that they want the money prior to the meeting or they want money to meet for coffee / lunch / dinner with no intention of meeting afterwards. Some clear signs of those that I'm seeing:

- They message you or favorite you first.

- They go straight into talking about the arrangement or sweet talk you about how they want to see you soon.

- They don't bother about knowing about you and about viewing your private pictures (ofcourse no one has their face on their profile picture).

- They don't have private pictures and all their hot pictures are public.

- And finally you don't have to court them at all. If it is too too easy then it's likely to be a scam.

[BrstMan]

For those that have seen Kenziebby what was the damage, don't want to go to low, and you can PM me or if comfortable post here.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8e21d...a-0b331bffc048

Still wondering if anyone has actually seen her, would like to know the PPM you got her down to, PM me if you want to keep it quiet.

[AsaMona22]

I hate to admit it but it finally seems to have happened. All non pros I have contacted this month have turned out to be pros all covered with per hour rate but expecting frequency of meetings as if it was an arrangement. To those guys that kept pushing that behavior on SA, you succeded to turn it into another t and a. I suppose they wanted to have more of the same but i wonder why they couldn't keep getting ladies from t and a if that was what they wanted.

All that damn pillow talking after sex. "You know you could make more if you go on tna and you're worth so much more. ".

Guys just shut up and nod your head when she talks. Your input is not needed. These are grown women!

[Penitrator]

Scammer alert. Met her for a meet and greet at a local restaurant. Got a slightly weird vibe. After finishing her meal and drink she said she had to use the bathroom. Never came back, dine and dash scammer. She blocked me as soon on seeking as soon as she got to her car. Said her name was Amy.