Rants and Raves

[OopaRam]

I believe there was at least 1 male victim.

Yes, as more updates come out, out of 8 dead 6 were women so 2 men. Among the injured that were identified one was a latino guy. Hope for safety of our fellow mongers.

[OldBoy99]

Channel 2 is reporting that there's no evidence of race issues or a hate crime. It's natural to want to find a reason for everything, but the reality is that sometimes the reason bad shit happens is unknowable.

A2, thanks for banning that user. A lot of us do NOT treat workers poorly or think of them as beneath us. And it is very much true that a lot of providers are indeed mothers taking care of not only their kids but their parents and other relatives. They came to this country to have a better life in a place where you CAN make a better life, only to suffer a lot of indignity that most of us cannot begin to imagine. Not only that, but most of us are damn happy to have an outlet where we can have a transactional, positive experience.

Totally agree. Like many of you, I've gotten to know quite a few of the ladies. They're just people, trying to make a decent lives for themselves. They deserve some respect. What would you rather do? Work in a shirt factory in southeast Asia for a couple of bucks a day, or come to America and rub down mongers? Sure, some of them get jaded, can you blame them? But at the heart of it they're doing the best they can in the world like virtually everyone else.

If any ladies from the shops are reading this, please know that many of us are horrified and deeply saddened at the senseless murders yesterday. May your friends rest in peace.

[MatchesM]

Like many of you I was shocked by the shooting yesterday and sadden by the violence on those 8 innocent women who did nothing to provoke such behavior. I immediately thought maybe the guy didn't get the HE he was looking for but someone also mention that he may possibly be refused for service due to his age. I wonder how come there is no mention about any male victims or injury at all these three places. Did the psycho only shoot at girls sitting on the couch waiting for customer or he barged into each room and only shot the woman and spared the man?

What are your thoughts on this?

I believe there was at least 1 male victim.

[Niteluvr]

Like many of you I was shocked by the shooting yesterday and sadden by the violence on those 8 innocent women who did nothing to provoke such behavior. I immediately thought maybe the guy didn't get the HE he was looking for but someone also mention that he may possibly be refused for service due to his age. I wonder how come there is no mention about any male victims or injury at all these three places. Did the psycho only shoot at girls sitting on the couch waiting for customer or he barged into each room and only shot the woman and spared the man?

What are your thoughts on this?

You didn't read about Young's? He killed a white guy on-prem and a Hispanic dude who was coming out of a business next door. Parlors don't have couches with female employees sitting on them in a waiting area. I'm sure the perp just shot at whomever was close by.

[Spankin]

I've always admired the AMP girls, pragmatic and hard working. Willing to sacrifice to get ahead. Sad for their loss.

[TboSixString]

Channel 2 is reporting that there's no evidence of race issues or a hate crime. It's natural to want to find a reason for everything, but the reality is that sometimes the reason bad shit happens is unknowable.

A2, thanks for banning that user. A lot of us do NOT treat workers poorly or think of them as beneath us. And it is very much true that a lot of providers are indeed mothers taking care of not only their kids but their parents and other relatives. They came to this country to have a better life in a place where you CAN make a better life, only to suffer a lot of indignity that most of us cannot begin to imagine. Not only that, but most of us are damn happy to have an outlet where we can have a transactional, positive experience.

Wise, that's a great statement. These girls work for you just like your hairstylist. This is a terrible situation that will effect mongo's for a while.

[PixMon]

Most of the national media are saying it's likely a hate crime, or religious zealot. But more likely what a few have said here, that it's more motivated by negative experience he had as a customer or maybe a family member had.

In any case, feeling bad for the victims, their families, the businesses and all of us who frequent them for the purposes for which they were intended (to have fun). I've been in Michigan since 2003, but mongered scores and scores of Atlanta AMPs in the 90s, before the USASG days. Hope there won't be more of this and the community can recover.

By "hate crime", my opinion is that this is more of him seeing these girls as easy targets. The fact that he went to three places was premediated as well, so he could have been a disgruntled patron. But my alternative theory is that he was financially motivated and saw these girls as an atm since these places are primarily a cash-only business.

[OopaRam]

Like many of you I was shocked by the shooting yesterday and sadden by the violence on those 8 innocent women who did nothing to provoke such behavior. I immediately thought maybe the guy didn't get the HE he was looking for but someone also mention that he may possibly be refused for service due to his age. I wonder how come there is no mention about any male victims or injury at all these three places. Did the psycho only shoot at girls sitting on the couch waiting for customer or he barged into each room and only shot the woman and spared the man?

What are your thoughts on this?

[RickRockClt]

According to the press release, apparently the shooter felt too much temptation with the spas being around. Perhaps he had some guilt building up. He is young and stupid.

It was not racially motivated related to the COVID pandemic, as we've seen with other events around the country.

[Niteluvr]

Most of the national media are saying it's likely a hate crime, or religious zealot. But more likely what a few have said here, that it's more motivated by negative experience he had as a customer or maybe a family member had.

In any case, feeling bad for the victims, their families, the businesses and all of us who frequent them for the purposes for which they were intended (to have fun). I've been in Michigan since 2003, but mongered scores and scores of Atlanta AMPs in the 90s, before the USASG days. Hope there won't be more of this and the community can recover.

I think it's a one-off incident but there will be repercussions. You can bet that if those Piedmont KAMPs stay open that they'll turn anyone away from now on who remotely gives off a bad vibe. They already do that to a degree (Koreans are flaky like that) but it'll be worse now. As for CAMPs, I suspect it will be like it was a couple years ago when Asian establishments were getting robbed. They locked their doors after dark and it took months for things to return to normal.

[SkyWookie]

Channel 2 is reporting that there's no evidence of race issues or a hate crime. It's natural to want to find a reason for everything, but the reality is that sometimes the reason bad shit happens is unknowable.

A2, thanks for banning that user. A lot of us do NOT treat workers poorly or think of them as beneath us. And it is very much true that a lot of providers are indeed mothers taking care of not only their kids but their parents and other relatives. They came to this country to have a better life in a place where you CAN make a better life, only to suffer a lot of indignity that most of us cannot begin to imagine. Not only that, but most of us are damn happy to have an outlet where we can have a transactional, positive experience.

I also feel bad for all the girls in spa's in the metro now who may fear someone else dangerous could hurt them. We believe this guy was just some crazy, but girls will still be afraid. When a convenience store gets robbed, everyone in the area who works at a convenience store fears they are next. I'm sure its the same for these girls.

So if you go and visit a spa today, tomorrow, or anytime in the near future be aware the girls will be scared every time the door opens, so be extra nice and smile or something when you go in. Whether it a massage girl, an escort, or a streetwalker, they are all women, and all human beings.

[Horndog Man X]

All.

WSB said he chose them to fight 'temptation' and he was 'going to Florida' to attack more. So he very likely visited them before. Pretty much means no hate crime, just the sheer number in and. Macon he by-passed.

The mayor of Seattle, where I spend most of my time, called it a hate crime. She's an idiot. Feel free to ignore her.

[Niteluvr]

This Massage Parlor shootings is so strange. These locations must have some specific significance to the shooter.

No matter what direction he drive from Youngs to the interstate, he would have passed multiple massage places.

And at Piedmont, he choose two fo the three spas within walking distance of Cheshire Bridge, but not the third on next door. Or the ones nearby on the 85 spur road exit.

This all makes me think that he had a particular history at these three locations instead of some random selection.

Turns out you're right, he did have a history at those parlors. I suspect he had either never been to St. Jame (next door to Aromatherapy) or "didn't have time" as he probably knew the police were on to him.

[The Wiseacre]

Most of the national media are saying it's likely a hate crime, or religious zealot. But more likely what a few have said here, that it's more motivated by negative experience he had as a customer or maybe a family member had.

Channel 2 is reporting that there's no evidence of race issues or a hate crime. It's natural to want to find a reason for everything, but the reality is that sometimes the reason bad shit happens is unknowable.

A2, thanks for banning that user. A lot of us do NOT treat workers poorly or think of them as beneath us. And it is very much true that a lot of providers are indeed mothers taking care of not only their kids but their parents and other relatives. They came to this country to have a better life in a place where you CAN make a better life, only to suffer a lot of indignity that most of us cannot begin to imagine. Not only that, but most of us are damn happy to have an outlet where we can have a transactional, positive experience.

[ThroatMonger69]

Most of the national media are saying it's likely a hate crime, or religious zealot. But more likely what a few have said here, that it's more motivated by negative experience he had as a customer or maybe a family member had.

What's going to happen now is there will be inquiries into who these women were. The government will get involved and before you know it, there will be no more of these establishments when the special interest groups find out they were most likely trafficking victims.