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  1. #5575

    The reason

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight22  [View Original Post]
    I've never known anyone hear to consider GFE to mean BBFS. Not sure what the guy who posted her review meant when he said she was not at all GFE. Maybe she is trying to change the narrative to justify her otherwise poor service. Would be nice if her reviewer would go into more detail now that she opened that gate.
    The reason it's even being suggested is that's he was being disingenuous by planting the false flag that GFE = BBFS.

    What the poster said she did was charge a premium and, even absent of GFE, was hyper-focused on spitting out rules rather than help him escape into a fantasy for an hour. There is a distinct, distinct difference between the two. You can still be a great provider and not be GFE. She is not is what the review was saying.

    She is the bad actor here.

  2. #5574

    Super ***

    https://greenville.skipthegames.com/...y/753007676400

    Anyone know anything about this one? To me it has the feel of vengeance but if she's real and dtf she won't have my openings.

  3. #5573
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackManWorkin  [View Original Post]
    I hate the illusion of GFE, so I will never ask for it, but if the provider allows me to finish on her, I'll do it. BBFS is not safe at all regardless of the price and the provider. But consenting adults can do so. All I'm saying is it's dangerous as hell.

    However, $$$ or more might want to involve some liquid yogurt eating. For that donation, you can start an onlyfans, especially if you spend over 10 K a year. I personally don't deal with women on drugs neither do I want a BBBJ from them. So I can agree with that. But if I can get better service from a cheaper provider, I'll go in that direction.

    The reviews here, for the most part, have been helpful. I've been saved from scams and bad providers because a lot of guys take the risks. I wouldn't take the BBBJ risk, but all the comments and warnings from the hobbyists here have been extremely helpful. YMMV with most providers, but I definitely take the word of regular and senior members here with caution.
    I believe we're in agreement on a few points BMW but I was merely pointing out that it wasn't until I had ran through several thousand dollars that just because they ask for higher donations does not mean you'll have a better time. I think the poster mentioned that she would have been worth the donation if she was GFE and her rules were a point of contention to him I believe. Glad to hear that the forum has served as a way to keep you safe as well as the rest of us. Lastly for me I never argue over a donation nor do I ask her to lower it. For those of us that try to negotiate a lower donation I understand and get it. Nothing wrong with this considering you never know how the visit will go. I only ask the provider or I should say I only expect her to do her best while I am there.

  4. #5572

    Bbfs / gfe

    I personally wouldn't do BBFS with any provider. Thats really taking a risk that doesn't end well at all. There are a few excellent providers in the area that aren't on drugs and if you don't try to force BB on them you will have a good visit. The lack of advertising providers in this area is directly linked to the way the clients are treating them at this time. I am 100% sure of this.

  5. #5571

    My thoughts on GFE, BBFS, and other reviews

    I hate the illusion of GFE, so I will never ask for it, but if the provider allows me to finish on her, I'll do it. BBFS is not safe at all regardless of the price and the provider. But consenting adults can do so. All I'm saying is it's dangerous as hell.

    However, $$$ or more might want to involve some liquid yogurt eating. For that donation, you can start an onlyfans, especially if you spend over 10 K a year. I personally don't deal with women on drugs neither do I want a BBBJ from them. So I can agree with that. But if I can get better service from a cheaper provider, I'll go in that direction.

    The reviews here, for the most part, have been helpful. I've been saved from scams and bad providers because a lot of guys take the risks. I wouldn't take the BBBJ risk, but all the comments and warnings from the hobbyists here have been extremely helpful. YMMV with most providers, but I definitely take the word of regular and senior members here with caution.

  6. #5570

    Just to add on.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllTheTime  [View Original Post]
    There will be some bounce back, but not as much as some people think. I'm in a city with a very active adult industry (mongering, clubs, etc.), and the quality factor had been sinking steadily for 5-6 years; heck, go back 2 years on the board and see all the complaints of "no quality girls. " Like the economy in general, you started seeing only the top 10 percent (ie well reviewed but expensive EROS girls) or the underclass (heavy drug users who either are 89 lb skeletons or 250 lb B not so hot BW). In the past 5 years, there's also an undercurrent of incel-related contempt being expressed by mongers which I know has had an impact on the willingness of the non-druggie to get involved in the industry.

    For all the stories, the vast majority of providers don't make as much as, say, camming, as they do providing. But for an increasing number of them, making 50 percent of providing and not having to have actual contact was already worth it, even pre pandemic.

    I'm not sure what will change the dynamic (I'd be rich if I did!) Again, there will some swing the other way once COVID is past. But to really return to the glory days, a new business model / dynamic has to be developed.
    I've never known anyone hear to consider GFE to mean BBFS. Not sure what the guy who posted her review meant when he said she was not at all GFE. Maybe she is trying to change the narrative to justify her otherwise poor service. Would be nice if her reviewer would go into more detail now that she opened that gate.

  7. #5569
    After a very careful and thorough review of the currently available options and after perusing through the previous several posts (Marty, Five, Monger et. Al) I've come to the conclusion that we haven't just hit the rock bottom, we have actually started to dig.

  8. #5568

    Not Chelsea T

    Has anyone seen this Chelse?. It's not Chelsea T.

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/chelsea-...enville-315496

  9. #5567
    Quote Originally Posted by OldGenxer  [View Original Post]
    I think you struck a nerve with this review. She's over on the sexworkers reddit.com subreddit complaining about it. .
    Looks like Reddit mods removed her rant.

    Her posts about loving creampies doesn't do much for her case.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/BreedingMat...not_at_all_oc/

  10. #5566

    Usasg

    Quote Originally Posted by OldGenxer  [View Original Post]
    I think you struck a nerve with this review. She's over on the sexworkers reddit.com subreddit complaining about it. .
    Greetings all and yes she is complaining about how we're all idiots, losers, and all looking for BBFS. We all take advantage of sex workers (well the most vulnerable girls) and share information about which girls to take advantage of by offering drugs to get BBFS. Some of you guys just may resemble the remark they made about not being able to use and I quote " If they knew how to use the search function on their own damn site, they would see where someone said I'm not GFE and everything is covered. I would think that would be enough to keep them all away. " Not all of us, to use their terminology "slobbyist" are this way nor do all of us want BBFS. If this is your cup of tea then more power to you. I would think the mature thing to do (mixed girl) is stop acting like a girl, be open minded and learn from the review. As one provider wrote a review may not be flattering but it proves a provider is real. Most of us want to feel good about the doantion and the experience we just had. Personally it wasn't until I lost my first 10 K in this hobby that I realized that just because you charge a higher donation that doesn't make you a good provider nor does being young and fit. One other note to remember if she is reading this is to remember that if all services all covered, if you're not GFE, and you're charging premium donations then we expect a visit better than average. We can always go to the drugged out provider for average service and the donation is a lot cheaper.

  11. #5565
    Quote Originally Posted by FiveOfSix  [View Original Post]
    You nailed it! A moratorium on evictions, unemployment requirement easier to ever to get, and stimulus money flowing in has made everything rough. Just hunker down these with have to come to an end and the pendulum will swing back.
    There will be some bounce back, but not as much as some people think. I'm in a city with a very active adult industry (mongering, clubs, etc.), and the quality factor had been sinking steadily for 5-6 years; heck, go back 2 years on the board and see all the complaints of "no quality girls. " Like the economy in general, you started seeing only the top 10 percent (ie well reviewed but expensive EROS girls) or the underclass (heavy drug users who either are 89 lb skeletons or 250 lb B not so hot BW). In the past 5 years, there's also an undercurrent of incel-related contempt being expressed by mongers which I know has had an impact on the willingness of the non-druggie to get involved in the industry.

    For all the stories, the vast majority of providers don't make as much as, say, camming, as they do providing. But for an increasing number of them, making 50 percent of providing and not having to have actual contact was already worth it, even pre pandemic.

    I'm not sure what will change the dynamic (I'd be rich if I did!) Again, there will some swing the other way once COVID is past. But to really return to the glory days, a new business model / dynamic has to be developed.

  12. #5564

    Megan

    Quote Originally Posted by SeasonalBrew2  [View Original Post]
    https://tryst.link/escort/mixedgirll211

    Well I did go through with the date even with the doubters here.

    Pros: She is 100% legit, looks better than pics online (she's tiny with big assets, I got the impression she would be taller and thicker all over from pics), and has an excellent incall location (only comparable to some UTRs I've seen).

    Cons: Literally everything else LOL. She's a nice girl with a good head on her shoulders but god damn she sets the record when it comes to rules. Absolutely not my worst experience because there was no upsell or anything but absolutely not the GFE that is advertised. If she was full GFE her rates would be a bargain compared to the big city rates for that quality but not the case.

    At the end of the day, I won't repeat but had a good time with a portion of this years' tax money. Next year I'll take a trip to Atlanta or Charlotte and spend that kind of money. Hands down the hottest chick I've ever hooked up with this through the hobby or in my personal life so not a total loss. If seniors want more detail I'll provide but there ain't much to discuss unfortunately.
    I think you struck a nerve with this review. She's over on the sexworkers reddit.com subreddit complaining about it. .

  13. #5563

    So no then?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight22  [View Original Post]
    So I take it no one has any itel. LOL.

  14. #5562

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyBass864  [View Original Post]
    The reason why " actual" providers have dried up is simple. 99.9% of the providers provided because it was the easiest way to get money. I am sure most providers dislike banging fat, old, abusive, smelly mongers. Do to simping is at a all time high. Only fans. Canceling of evictions, and the standards to get and maintain unemployment checks are easier then ever. I am literally rolling on my bed like scrooge mcduck in hundreds of 20 dollar bills, wanting to give it away, but I can not find 1 chick under 30 years of age under 150 lbs to save my life. I have driven 3 x over 2 hours to see elanna in ashville at 300 a hour and she stood me up each time. I would happily drive today for 400 if I thought I could get in door. It is absolutely a sellers market.
    And. I have been told by a number of providers that most likely 99% of the real women posting are plagued by real demons. H. Most of them will do whatever 4 the quickest amount of money to keep from getting sick. So whatever kind of opportunity or scam comes along first takes priority. This way of making money takes time and effort. Few are even willing to put forth this much effort. There is only one provider that I have met in 3 years that I am confident is not doing it 2 silence demons.

    https://greenville.skipthegames.com/...a/721005591002

    YMMV. Reliable kind courteous punctual professional. Blonde spinner. Sometimes she's is a bit chatty but always seemed to be in to it. This is just my experience because I refuse to do in calls and insist on all providers coming to me preferably with their own transportation. Just my two cents.

  15. #5561
    Quote Originally Posted by MartyBass864  [View Original Post]
    The reason why " actual" providers have dried up is simple. 99.9% of the providers provided because it was the easiest way to get money. I am sure most providers dislike banging fat, old, abusive, smelly mongers. Do to simping is at a all time high. Only fans. Canceling of evictions, and the standards to get and maintain unemployment checks are easier then ever. I am literally rolling on my bed like scrooge mcduck in hundreds of 20 dollar bills, wanting to give it away, but I can not find 1 chick under 30 years of age under 150 lbs to save my life. I have driven 3 x over 2 hours to see elanna in ashville at 300 a hour and she stood me up each time. I would happily drive today for 400 if I thought I could get in door. It is absolutely a sellers market.
    You nailed it! A moratorium on evictions, unemployment requirement easier to ever to get, and stimulus money flowing in has made everything rough. Just hunker down these with have to come to an end and the pendulum will swing back.

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