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  1. #11669

    Further clarification for my previous post

    Don't pay attention to the words. Pay attention to the simple formula behind them.

    I personally always emphasise that I'm freshly showered with my teeth brushed and mouthwash used to let them know that I am clean and ready to go right now. I'm also giving them a reminder and putting the onus on them to do the same without asking directly. Usually when I arrive they've just stepped out of the shower.

    1) You're ready to go right now with your keys in-hand and you're practically out the door already.

    2) Once they've understood that you're ready right now and accepted the amount you're willing to pay, you have that amount in your hand right now. No detours to the atm, no needing to get covers, no nothing. Be prepared before you contact them. Put into their mind that the money will be in their hand directly. You're getting into your car and driving straight to their place. I tell them my gps says x amount of minutes and I'm coming directly there right now. Then do so.

    Understanding addiction to better understand "the price" women ask for and why other people paying more doesn't affect you too much or them much for that matter, except financially of course.

    It's not so much the money itself that women care about, but what you need to understand is what they are going to use that money for and the necessity of it being sooner rather than later. Imagine a quick draining battery. They live life on a constant timer. Both ends of the candle is what is motivating them. It's not only the high they seek, they must keep charging the battery to avoid the crash. Think of the worst flu you've ever felt and that's not the half of it. It's hell. Truly understanding this conveys the reason why they will (at the right times and within reason) always accept less money than they claim and why you should never pay upfront before the deed. If you do so and get ripped off, don't get mad at them, as it is your own fault. It's not personal. Most of them are not bad people, it's just that they are not in their "right mind. " They would have just as easily ripped off the one person in the world they love the most and who are you to them in the current state that their mind is in? You're just a means to a constant predetermined end.

    Fucking equals money, which in turn equals candy. Money equals candy. Notice that fucking goes bye-bye since money equals candy. There is no thoughts of tomorrow or friends or keeping naive top paying clients. (Do you understand? Paying more or less doesn't matter. Cheaper clients don't lose favor with the women during the many times we're offering a reasonable amount of money that will get them what they need all the times that their naive clients are financially tapped out. Likewise, top paying clients don't gain favor by paying more sometimes, yet not being available with the usual astronomical amount every time they need you. In fact, I'd argue that they actually resent you, because the rest of us are reliable. This came to light for me last year when a young lady I was with got a text from one of you guys and scoffed when she saw it. I asked what that was about and she told me she was avoiding some guy that paid a lot, but was never available when she needed him. I laughed out loud. Everyone else can more frequently pay their usual amount, why can't you? Depending on the current state of their timer they don't have time to wait for the few people paying outrageous prices. Cutting out fucking (since they already have the money) is actually a very logical choice for someone who, by necessity, must live in the moment. Any monger that doesn't understand this simple model is beyond help. Those who do understand, again, please stop blaming the girls when you get ripped off because you paid first, as that is your own fault. If a girl and her db rob you, then that is a different matter entirely, as that actually is beyond your control.

    Once you truly understand their plight, even in spite of their own bad choices, it's near impossible not to have sympathy for them.

    For those that don't know how to get a girl to fulfill the contract before you pay. You show them that you actually have the money and tell them that it will remain in your possession until they've held up their end of the deal. Reread above if you still don't understand why more often than not that they will agree to your terms. If they won't, walk away. I hope this helps those of you that actually took the time to read it.

  2. #11668

    Stormy is back

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ampa/58709060/#.

    By the casino area with a catch. If you read her ad, it does state full body massage with a happy ending. In her comment section posted on 1/5/2021, FS is offer for up sell. Are girls entitled to the stimulus check, LOL.

  3. #11667

    Paying higher prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Brasky  [View Original Post]
    Now that's what I call monger teamwork! However, at 350 HR I am going to pass; maybe sometime when I want to treat myself.
    IMHO, when a provider asked / demands higher rates, I do think of quality of service. A few things come to mind, ease of communication, safe location, quality of sexual experience, and attitude are just some things come to mind. I paid $300 to play with Sarah Vandella (this was at the beginning of her career) where she was doing peep show sex. The sex with her was average and was disappointed, but oh well. Not all name brands do live up to their expectations.

  4. #11666

    Jade jaden

    Anyone took the plunge and tried her? She's expensive so wanted to ask first. Thinking of not visiting anyone for a bit and spending the extra money on one of the higher end girls if it's actually with it. If anyone has dropped the 700 for an HR let me know what it was like.

  5. #11665

    Bunny

    She's not even in Tampa now, guys. She's in Miami. Go figure why she's also posting on the Tampa EB.

  6. #11664

    Great service

    Nice hotel in Brandon, easy communication, and very friendly. Opted for the BBBJ and it was amazing, very skillful, highly recommend.

    https://blackdynomite.com.listcrawle...ampa/58667663/

  7. #11663
    Quote Originally Posted by Riley4511  [View Original Post]
    Reached out myself to find too rich for my recreational savings but she is hot! 260/360 and parked in Brandon. One of her pics has Chicago written. Not sure if she's one of Lesiie's. I'll ask.

    https://independent.com.listcrawler....ampa/58647598/

    BTW speaking of Leslie's friend, noticed SABRINA. Fine curvy assed sleek BMW has returned and staying with Leslie. Her asses was one of the best! Think I'll test drive that BMW once more. Search review 10829.

    https://independent.com.listcrawler....ampa/58625918/
    This is not to Mr. Riley or anyone in particular. For years I've seen many complain that others are paying too much for service. The fact of the matter is that you can't control what other people do and any attempt to do so is futile. When I'm wealthy I'll be sticking with Eros, but the few people who are paying 300+ for half hours for listcrawler girls aren't doing it daily or probably not even weekly. Where does that leave the girls with their price? There's always deals to be had. You don't need to match their price, just understand their thought process. The vast majority of women that hook are addicts. An addict is an opportunist. A bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush. Or x amount of money in the hand equals whatever candy they need. They can get some of what they need for 100 bucks or less and they know it. They say 300 hh and some guys just accept it and pay that price and others think of it as too rich for their blood and move on, but both treat the price as if it were written in stone. It's not! Also, with a few exceptions most women will not counter offer. One exception I can think of is little Niki. She'd throw out 150 for a car date and if you didn't answer, ten minutes later you'd get a text for 100. Most women are very passive and just won't do that. Next time you get a text similar to 300 hh remember what's written above and try something like this: "I just hopped out of the shower and brushed my teeth and used mouthwash and I'm ready to run out the door. Damn. I usually do 120 for a hh. " Then shut up and wait for a reply. Alternatively, anyone who doesn't mind paying 300+ for a hh with a listcrawler girl, please do so. It will not affect the price for me or anyone else that understands the addicted mind.
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  8. #11662
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch1965  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if I missed it but I could find no reviews of this provider on here. Any help?

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ampa/58662312/
    Look at the pics of her. Some of her pics show her having bare back sex with a guy with a big sore on his dick. If you post about it your post gets taken down.

  9. #11661

    Bunny 407 aka Taylor aka Chelsee Clifton

    Now that's what I call monger teamwork! However, at 350 HR I am going to pass; maybe sometime when I want to treat myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBoogers2016  [View Original Post]
    There are 17 reviews of her on EB. The most recent dated Jan 31 2021 said this:

    Description of Provider:

    Look up Chelsee Clifton on porn hub.

    So. With that being said, it looks like you are correct about who she is and that she's also legit.

  10. #11660
    I see some girls in last 2 months.

    Genessis Rodriguez sexy Colombiana no full GFE she doesn't like kiss but she try to please see her in Tampa but she is most time in Orlando. [Deleted by Admin]

    Audrey rose cute chubby girl nice natural d full GFE see her in clearwater safe incall small apartment. 407xxxx9 sixty seven.

    Stoya Brazilian girl nice body full GFE really try to please she knows her ways around a guy. In the pricey side $$ Tampa a hotel.

    Eva Rae amazing body rock hard athletic great man made she is GFE but everything is cover that is ok with me, older than she says but still great body.

  11. #11659

    TOFTT new blood

    https://independent.com.listcrawler....ampa/58686407/

    With all the slim pickings going on decided to try this one out-about 15-20 lbs bigger than pics, covered everything she set a timer and we had the session on her couch. 80 qv but I get the sense she loves money so can be convinced for bare. Safe location at rocky point but meh prob won't repeat tired of the bs may just have to go get a gf now or stick with hot holly Tampa has really gone downhill.

  12. #11658
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous434  [View Original Post]
    I knew I recognized her, if she is real, pretty sure she is same girl who did porn as "Chelcee Clifton" on NaughtyMidwestGirls, if someone would TOFTT and she is real, I will have to go see her.

    https://www.xvideos.com/video5314040...niece_creampie
    There are 17 reviews of her on EB. The most recent dated Jan 31 2021 said this:

    Description of Provider:

    Look up Chelsee Clifton on porn hub.

    So. With that being said, it looks like you are correct about who she is and that she's also legit.

  13. #11657

    Bunny

    Quote Originally Posted by Riley4511  [View Original Post]
    Reached out myself to find too rich for my recreational savings but she is hot! 260/360 and parked in Brandon. One of her pics has Chicago written. Not sure if she's one of Lesiie's. I'll ask.

    https://independent.com.listcrawler....ampa/58647598/

    BTW speaking of Leslie's friend, noticed SABRINA. Fine curvy assed sleek BMW has returned and staying with Leslie. Her asses was one of the best! Think I'll test drive that BMW once more. Search review 10829.

    https://independent.com.listcrawler....ampa/58625918/
    I knew I recognized her, if she is real, pretty sure she is same girl who did porn as "Chelcee Clifton" on NaughtyMidwestGirls, if someone would TOFTT and she is real, I will have to go see her.

    https://www.xvideos.com/video5314040...niece_creampie

  14. #11656

    Jazzy

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch1965  [View Original Post]
    Very much appreciated. I've been texting her for a couple days with no response.
    Definitely try calling. I prefer to do things through text but I've found some girls you're just better off calling. We talked about her slow to text issue & she pulled up her text app. She never received my most recent texts so it could be an issue with the app. As others have pointed out she does like to drink so that is likely an issue as well. She indicated she dozed off after posting, but she answered when I called and when I got to her hotel. She made me wait briefly but within a few minutes she was meeting me outside the side door & letting me in. She's a good time.

  15. #11655

    Beach time

    Quote Originally Posted by SfoDavid67  [View Original Post]
    You guys are so lucky in Florida to have so many girls to chose from! I live in an area where it is pretty dry. There are a few, most of those few are ripoffs or poor service. I have found one that I am hanging onto and she is pretty much my exclusive as she is full full GFE, a cute little spinner with a petite banging bod. I am on vacation next month and want to come sit on the beach! So I am doing my initial research now for my entertainment. Looking to set up 3 or 4 girls to see. I do prefer young spinners, but open to others. Trashy sluts are cool too hehe. BBFS is a huge huge plus. BBBJ is mando.

    Till international travel reopens and I can get back to my normal playground, I am playing in the USA.

    Any intel on reliable providers? I will be in Tampa from March 20-25.
    Well you won't be sitting on a beach in Tampa! Need St. Pete / Clearwater for that. My suggestion is to just use LC to locate some that you're interested in then post the links here for comments. Collectively, we've probably seen many of them. FYI, you likely won't know the BBFS in advance but, in my experience, there are some who will welcome that if you are deemed to be clean, fit, etc by the provider.

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