"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[NoswtTea]

Anyone using SDM? The app sucks compared to SA, and it always shows people out of state, but I've had much better luck recently. Less scams / deposits / online only stuff.

[Hal1957]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

[BoJackSugarman]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

I agree with everything SH said and I was lucky enough to pull some quality regulars off SA before I let my membership expire. I've been with SA since the old days like 2014. It gets worse every year and I finally figured out why. Math.

In 2014, SA boasted there were 8 SBs for every SD and it felt like it. You could send some messages and meet up with a chick same night most times. Back then, they didn't even expect $ many times and never on the first meet or in advance. I checked the site and they list the members in each category and last I checked it was like 8 M SBs and 2. 5 M SDs that's only 3. 2/1 also when you factor how many scammers / fatties / time wasters have polluted SA it is probably much worse. Supply and demand govern every market thus the GPS prices and lower conversion rates. .

As an experiment, I'm going to try to convert some random civilians I meet into SBs. I've done it before with a hot waitress I met traveling in Chicago a few years ago. I feel like that market might be untapped. Will let you know how it goes.

Best of luck to you all, with the current state of affairs on SA, you are going to need it.

[Frankie14]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

Sounds like some of my experiences with young strippers. (Before they develop GPS.) Girls are available and willing for sugar arrangements from different mediums. Just have to figure out what works for you.

[SeekingHead]

I completely agree, there is no other source like this, especially for us older gents. If you are looking for high volume at low prices, the site definitely is not what it once was. But I am a low volume guy and like to stick to a couple solid situations at a time. I never overpay 2 xx is my number most days (sometimes more) but never paid more than 3 XX. I have two right now that are great with the former number and any guy here would be all in with either of them. Not BBFS, but I am not really looking for that. And they are good with everything else. Incl DFK and BBBJ, both a must for me. And keep in mind, IMO most guys on here are not sharing the "A" ladies with the peanut gallery, just common sense. Once you have a good situation you stay with it, like many other things in life!

Same here, I'm not looking to fuck 50 different girls a year at this point in my life except on vacation. I want normalcy with 2 to 3 x's a week.

I understand the BBFS is a no go for a lot of people but my thoughts on BBFS with SB's off of SA are, 95% of the girls I see off of the site are not professionals. They are 20 somethings looking to plug a whole in their finances who also like older men, I'm snipped with no swimmers, so no worries about birth control. This leaves STD's, eventually I'll roll the dice & hit snake eyes, I get checked 4 x a year for STD's.

[Frankie14]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

Sounds like some of my experiences with young strippers. (Before they develop GPS.) Girls are available and willing for sugar arrangements from different mediums. Just have to figure out what works for you.

[Ngasub20]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c7676...9-49705d859174

This one approached me, while certainly not my type, to each their own. Down for pretty much whatever you want, kink-friendly. However, she wants no less than 7 xx per meet, "because of COVID". I guess it's kinda like buying something at the butcher with this one.

[Reman3289]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

I completely agree, there is no other source like this, especially for us older gents. If you are looking for high volume at low prices, the site definitely is not what it once was. But I am a low volume guy and like to stick to a couple solid situations at a time. I never overpay 2 xx is my number most days (sometimes more) but never paid more than 3 XX. I have two right now that are great with the former number and any guy here would be all in with either of them. Not BBFS, but I am not really looking for that. And they are good with everything else. Incl DFK and BBBJ, both a must for me. And keep in mind, IMO most guys on here are not sharing the "A" ladies with the peanut gallery, just common sense. Once you have a good situation you stay with it, like many other things in life!

[SeekingHead]

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

[OopaRam]

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

[BadNewsBear]

After 10 minutes of promising chat, this scammer hits me with this.

[Bill Ginn]

PM me details please sounds like a fun one.

LOL What details do you need beyond what he's shared? Go message her and have some fun.

[Woof359]

Had the pleasure of seeing Southern Hockey Girl recently. Met at her place in cumming for an incredible hot time, she's a sweet MILF with great curves and mouth action.

Everything is on the menu (covered) and I will definitely be back. Paid out $ 250 for the session. Very sweet lady that deserves to be treated well.

PM me details please sounds like a fun one.

[RunTheRabbit]

Damn. Report back. Love me some inked hotties.

Would love to know the outcome of this tatted beauty.

[Gavin1112]

I had an email from them saying they tried to bill me even though it was turned off for auto bill. I'm thinking scam too.

I had auto renewal on for a year. I finally turned it off it appears that because I disable auto renewal they penalise me by deactivating my account.