Non Pro's

[KashMoney]

https://www.seeking.com/member/17699...b-d62773895355

Does anyone have experience with Kate? She favorited me and it seems that she's been on the site for a while. We've exchanged messages but she has rescheduled a couple of times already. I don't think that she's a scammer but perhaps a time waster?

[Fantasy Man J]

I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.

Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.

I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.

To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:

SA is.

Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).

Escorts are.

300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.

The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.

Social media has been normalizing SA and it appears these college students see it as a viable source of income with no shame. Straight up flaunting the fact that they have a sugar daddy.

SA has killed the other board for me. A couple drinks seem to get the freak out of many of these girls. Treat them like a gf and they'll with you the GFE treatment.

[Rousse]

Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.

But some in this area will get it. I was chatting with a well-regarded TNA provider whose rates start at $$, enthusiastic but very safety. She said she has quite a few who book the same amount of time for $ $ $ $ $ and even much more. I've heard similar things from several others. There are a lot of highly paid low-social-skills men in this area.

[MrPumpNDump]

I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.

One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.

I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.

Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.

I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.

To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:

SA is.

Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).

Escorts are.

300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.

The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.

[BrstMan]

I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.

That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works

I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.

One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.

[DelToro]

How SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things

I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.

That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works

[Flash Lidar]

https://www.seeking.com/member/18060...5-91352e4f3dd1

Another sb that wants a "virtual" arrangement due to covid. SMh. Pass.

[DrtyHarry]

In the past few weeks I have heard several girls say the same thing about how SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things, their understanding was that the guys on here would take them on trips, pay for whatever. I would call it the fairytale fantasy, one thought I would pay for their rent each month, another pay off credit cards (I am good with if the CC total is like 100.00), another help pay off college and other crap like that.

The girls usually get pissed off and block me.

Good observation. That is correct. Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.

[BrstMan]

If anyone has any luck tell me how you do, she was on the site before and either got rid of her account or was booted off, we were supposed to meet then went silent she seemed to be ready to do it all and now I see she is back with new username so someone take a run at her and see what she does.

https://www.seeking.com/member/5a3b7...6-30e92a1ec33c

[BrstMan]

In the past few weeks I have heard several girls say the same thing about how SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things, their understanding was that the guys on here would take them on trips, pay for whatever. I would call it the fairytale fantasy, one thought I would pay for their rent each month, another pay off credit cards (I am good with if the CC total is like 100.00), another help pay off college and other crap like that.

The girls usually get pissed off and block me.

[Jwthdytiak]

I have not seen her. But seemed pretty open in private messages (even though it is her first day in this new profile) - I have my hands full and so I cannot pursue any further.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6db8e...8-b2628f3a39a5

I got no BB, no anal, suggested car dates instead of hosting. I got 300/ hr, 200/30 m, 125/15 m rates which scream pro to me. I'm passing on it.

[BigFella9]

Prefer under 40 must be clean preferably hung pm for details.

[Flash Lidar]

Scam.

Talks a big game then wants you to secure a spot by putting down a deposit for half of the ppm. I told her that I was not interested in paying a deposit and she said that she was no longer interested. Surprise. Surprise. LOL.

[DrtyHarry]

She initially said she wants 500 but said she'll do 400 ppm. I passed for now.

No way. That is way too much for her. She is good but not 500 or 400 good. Besides with her habits and flakey attitude I'd go nowhere near that rate. Paying those rates I expect incredible, on time service and the word "no" should be forgotten completely. That is what I hate most about the other site. There are dreamers there that want 400 for CBJ and it is just ridiculous. I for one will not tolerate that shit.

[Morgan Creamin]

Willing to bet that some hobbyists will fall for that.

It's funny because I sent a text and then about 30 seconds later I get a 250 word explanation of why she needs the money, that she's not a scammer, etc. Clearly copied and pasted. Like there is no way she could type it all in that amount of time. They think we're stupid, and maybe some of us are.