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04-11-07 10:10 #138Senior Member

Posts: 622getting girls to pose
First, I agree and would fully support Cooky's nomination as Monger of the Year. This is one dedicated and talented monger.
I must also chime in on your guys questions about how does he get girls to pose for him, etc. From my own personal experience, I have photographed numerous sw's, and made movies with sw's, and never once have I paid them any extra money. In DC the fs going rate is around 5 jacks and if they come to my house for that, most likely they will pose for pics or be filmed. It all starts by making them comfortable with you and acting like the pictures are no big deal. I use my cell phone or a web-cam for my photos and movies, which takes the creep level down substantially. Seems more innocent and commonplace than if you bust out a nice camera with a lense or what not.
Now with Cooky doing all the poses and stuff, that may make the girl a little more reluctant and creeped-out, especially when he does the outdoor shots, which may require a few extra ducets, but if you have any level of trust or familiarity with the girls, most likely they'd be willing to let you snap some shots while in the comfort of your home.
I usually dont say much. Maybe while we're hanging out I might start by taking a cell phone pic of their face while they're still fully clothed. Then maybe when they take their shirt off I comment on how pretty their tits are and say I gotta get a shot of that, grab the phone and snap. If they allow that, they'll allow more. Maybe one or two chicks have been reluctant. Most of the time I just act normal and start snapping.
I would imagine that if my intention to pick up the girl was to have a photoshoot like CJ, and if I'd have to prep them and explain what I wanted to do, the girls would expect to be compensated. My intention is to bang a hot young chick, and pics and video are just bonus and something that happens in a natural flow of events; at least I try to make it that way.
I've probably filmed 10 or so girls, some in the act, others not, all with their permission. Again, never paid extra, just the 5 jack fs rate (except of course for this one crackhead-to-be who settled for 40 plus a mug of change. She was more than a pain in the ass though.)
In summary, most of these girls are willing to take pics. It's especially easy if you are familiar with the subject. You just have to eliminate a creep factor in you and dont act nervous when asking. I just start lining them up with my camera phone and most of the time they just start posing. Some might say, "are you taking a picture?" and I'll just say "if you dont mind, you're just too cute" or something. Give it try sometime, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.
Here is a link to the DC Photo Thread where I have posted some pics (a lot of them are video stills). http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...6&page=3&pp=40 And a link to my most recent model, who uses the pics on her CL ads. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...343#post507343
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04-10-07 20:18 #137Senior Member

Posts: 862I second that. However keep in mind there is an actual "Pimp of the Year" award (trophy and all) and a recent two-time winner of the award, Matthew Thompkins aka "Knowledge" just went to prison for 25 years for that accomplishment. Cooky is too valuable. We can't afford to lose him like that.
Originally Posted by Vegas Black
BTW I would love to see photos of the women convicted with Thompkins in his scheme which he ran out of LV, AC, NYC, and a few other places. If anybody comes across photos, please PM me. I dated several high-end SW/CGs in AC who'd give unlikely names like Fortune, Success, and Passion and had LV cell #s. I'm guessing these were part of his stable. Two co-conspirators mentioned in news reports are sisters and I'm curious to know if they are Fortune and Madonna, two hot young blondes who looked so much alike that I wondered if they were twins. After the Pimp of the Year's arrrest I never saw any of those girls again.
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04-10-07 19:46 #136Senior Member

Posts: 5563RE: Date without pics?
You are right, shit happens. LOL Usually, the prettier girls are eager to have their pictures taken. However, there were a few times when I went one or two girls down before the third agreed. Most often, the first girl out agrees. Rarely, very rarely will I date a girl who refuses to have her picture taken. Why? Picture taking is but a tool in my arsenal.
Originally Posted by Mike 80
Let me try and explain. Take Gia (aka Brittany) for example. I would not have pass up this girl for any reason, had I known what she looked like. Unfortunately, I had no way of knowing how she truly looked until I had gotten her to take her clothing off and by then we had settled into a car date type of situation. Look at it this way, how many times have you picked up what appeared to be a great fine, only to get her back to the hotel and find sagging tits, flabby thighs, needle marked arms and pus filled sores – that were hidden beneath tight jeans. The camera as a tool helps to lessen these occurrences. Normally a girl will not want me to take her picture if she has a bad body. Usually they will ask if they have to be completely nude. Sometime they will offer to show just their breast or upper body. I usually insist on complete nudity. If the body, personality or something else does not meet with my approval, I will pass on any thing additional or just settle for a BJ. On rear occasions, after seeing something special that I liked about her appearance or personality, will I agree on a date without pictures. I do not think that I have ever posted a review without pictures.
CookyJar
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04-10-07 16:52 #135Senior Member

Posts: 862Date without pics?
Very nice pic, Arnie. I'd love to see her turn around. To echo you and other posters who've commented since Cooky's last photo set, I agree that Cooky is on a big-time roll. CJ, I think you've even raised it up a notch w/ these latest few sets and the kinds of poses you're getting these girls to do. Just fantastic. I think "WhenInVegas" makes a good point about how a monger knows when he's read a great report.
I too am impressed and curious at how you're able to get this kind of cooperation. I also have a question and apologize if you've answered it before. Do you ever date girls that you don't photograph? If a girl turns you down (and I gotta believe that must happen at least sometimes), do you still finish the "date" or does it depend on the girl?
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04-10-07 13:38 #134Senior Member

Posts: 421cookyjar
I nominate cookyjar for pimp of the year. this guy never disappoints. i still aint figure out how he gets these girls to pose for him the way they do.
Be safe out there...........
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04-10-07 12:06 #133Senior Member

Posts: 65photographers and models
CJ,
Originally Posted by CookyJar
Well done, sir.
As you may recall (or not, it's been a while since I last posted, but I've been keeping up with things), I kind of enjoy the photography thing myself. I've shot SW's, and more recently have found a couple of first-time amateurs on CL. I've had good and bad experiences with both.
The key to it all, IMO, is the rapport between photographer and model. It requires something of an outgoing personality on BOTH sides of the camera.
Obviously, CJ, you HAVE that or you wouldn't: a.) be able to talk the girls into it in the first place; or: b.) get such good work from them.
But I've found that the girl's attitude equally important, if not more so. If you find a girl for whom it's all about the $$$, then it doesn't work so well.
But, if you're able to find a girl (or girls) who are interested in and excited about the project, and are able to "work" them, get into the project with equal enthusiasm, then you come out with a good photography, as opposed to a buncha crappy snapshots.
You, sir, have accomplished both. The enthusiasm on both sides of the camera is evident. My compliments.
Arnie
PS -- the attached is a result of my CL work. And no, I'm not posting any more of her, because I told her I wouldn't. Yeah, I'm kind of stretching that promise by showing this one, but she's facing away. Also, she's not a SW. This was her first nude photo shoot, and she was about as enthusiastic as they, ummmm, come.
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04-09-07 14:24 #132Senior Member

Posts: 1602How do you know when you've read a good report?
You have a big ol throbbing hard on.
Nice job CJ.
Vegas
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04-09-07 06:16 #131Senior Member

Posts: 1045CJ, you need an agent:o)
CookieJar, you outdid yourself again with another outstand post series and storyboarding it with action photos. You have set this whole forum a buzz with how you are able to get these girls to pose for you time after time.
No doubt about it, your are definitely THE MAN. You really need to get an agent and give some consideration of doing this professionally. lol A new career awaits you, CJ. You are setting such a high standard, it makes me wonder what you will do for an encore.
Keep it up (literally and figuratively). lol You are doing a great job. You must be one hell of a salesman to get these girls to pose.
BBB
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04-09-07 03:17 #130Senior Member

Posts: 5563The Series, Part one - Sophia
I cannot believe that I actually passed Sophia up. Actually, I had not seen her at all. I had been out looking for either Jennifer or Gia. I had recently gotten good service from both of these girls and had promise myself seconds. I was especially looking forward to FS with Gia, but I have had trouble finding her during my searches and by phone. On the other hand I had been with Jennifer on a number of occasions and even though I am not into repeating that often, I could not get our last date out of my mind. So when I saw Jennifer walking up the street it was with mixed feelings. Just as I drove up to her I changed my mine and continued on. She have not recognized me but I recognized that nice butt of hers.
After I had passed by Jennifer, I suddenly got a guiltily feeling. She had always been a good date and had went way out of her way a couple of times just to please me. I could not just drive by without acknowledging her. So I pulled over. To my surprise she did not come over to the passenger side like I had expected. She came to my drivers’ side window and motioned for me to roll down the window. She asked if I wanted another girl. I immediately went on the alert. I asked who, and how does she look. She told me the girl had a nice face and body. I asked where she was. She told me, “back there.” I checked my rear view. I saw a heavy WSW who I had noticed when I had first turn the corner. I start to say, forget the whole thing, pass Jennifer a few bucks and explain that I had not been looking for a date, but was just driving by. But I was curious, Jennifer knew what I liked and had never late me down before. I told her to get the other girl; I would pull over in the next block and wait. In no time I could see Jennifer and another girl in my rear view mirror. As they approached the passengers’ side, I could see that it wasn’t the heavy WSW – this girl had potential.
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04-09-07 03:10 #129Senior Member

Posts: 5563The series, Part two - Sophia & Jennifer
Jennifer jumped into the front set and the new girl got in the back. Jennifer introduced her as Sophia. There was not need to do the LE check, so I just turned and looked over my shoulder to check her out. From what I could see she did not look to bad. I figured that Jennifer must have told her something, but I did not know what. I started to go into my routine, when Jennifer interrupted and said that she told Sophia about taking pictures and maybe something extra afterwards. I asked, “Yeah, and what about how much.” I explained that I was not prepared to give what I had given to Jennifer on our last date, to two girls. Jennifer asked me if it was alright if she spoke to Sophia in Spanish. I said, “Why not, go ahead.” Jennifer told Sophia something in Spanish and then turned to me and said, “I told her you were always fair and not to worry.”
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04-09-07 03:06 #128Senior Member

Posts: 5563The Series, Part three - Jennifer & Sophia
Sophia was great, from the moment she stripped off her clothing, she was full of energy. She got right into posing, hopping from position to position. All of the time she kept asking, “Do you like this? How about this?” She was having a ball. I was awestruck by her creamy body and her sculptured fat pussy. Any girl who takes the time to shape her pussy hairs has got to be into her work. But, what I think fascinated Jennifer the most was Sophia’s soft, smooth behind. She could not keep her hands off of it. I got the impression from Sophia that this was new to her, and that she had never been with Jennifer before. I got the impression from Jennifer that she could not wait to get at Sophia’s pussy. She kept suggesting pussy eating poses. She was threatening to really get at it, all the time asking me if I wanted to see her eat it for real. I reminded Jennifer that I had plenty of pictures of her and that I wanted a few more of Sophia. I asked her to wait a few minutes. After I had shot as many pictures of Sophia as I wanted, I suggested a few of the two together, in more out of the ordinary positions. Jennifer was all over that pussy. Man, could she lick pussy.
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04-09-07 02:55 #127Senior Member

Posts: 5563The Series, Epilog - The Threesome
Please keep in mind that all of this had already happen when I posted the last set of pictures with Princess and Queen. I would have posted this information earlier but I got side tracked debating name issues. I had just passed up one opportunity when this one presented itself. I almost missed out on this one. And I am willing to bet that most of you still pass on Jennifer and girls like her. You pass on chances to have a great time because the girl is not tall, blonde and white. You never know where a good time is going to come far.
For example. Jennifer suggested that I mount Sophia from behind while she got underneath, licking my dick and balls, and Sophia’s pussy. This was a hard to keep but very worthwhile position.
Both girls had very different BJ techniques. Sophia was fast with lots of action. Jennifer worked slow and methodical, with lots of juicy licking. Both girls worked me over pretty good. Of cause Jennifer took the lead, orchestrating everything. She practically insisted that I end up by fucking Sophia, after she had done a prelim wetting job by sucking her pussy. After she had gotten Sophia nice and juicy, she helped me by holding my dick and guiding it into Sophia’s wet pussy. Laying in the mish position, Sophia was ready, legs spread open wide. She wrapped herself around me; she was definitely the faster of the two. As Sophia was whipping it underneath me, Jennifer was busy licking my ass and balls. I came so hard; I thought I might have busted the rubber.
Afterwards, we laid there together and agreed to do this again, soon.
And to think, I had been about to pass on Jennifer. Sometimes finding the best girl is just a matter of luck. Would I do either of these girls again? Yes, let there is no doubt, I will never pass Jennifer up, because she is always full of surprises. As always, YMMV.
CookyJar
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04-07-07 13:23 #126Senior Member

Posts: 432IMO, attitude is the most important trait. I can overlook stretch marks and a less than 10 face if the girl is fun to be around. As has been stated in a previous post, some / many younger / hotter girls tend to feel that they're doing you a favor. The older &/or less attractive ones seem to try harder to please you.
Originally Posted by CookyJar
I believe the situation plays a large part, too, as you may be willing to sacrifice quality for the experience. Besides, there's a chance that you could cover up the ugly one's face by having her bury her face between the thighs of the other girl.
I recently dated a self-acclaimed "chubby girl" who stated that "chubby girls are more into sex than regular girls". I believe this is true, as I have experienced BJs from chubby girls that were off the hook compared to those received by more appealing girls.
Take strip clubs as an example, the younger & more attractive ones tend to not provide extras, while the older less attractive ones rely on extras to make their money.
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04-07-07 11:06 #125Senior Member

Posts: 1384
Originally Posted by CookyJar
You are so on the money! If a girl gets in the car and I detect any body odor I'll just let them back out of the car. Easiet way to get rid of a girl quickly without her giving you a hard time is to just offer her 4 dollars for a BJ saying that is all you have. They will exit very quickly !!
I've also had some that once back at the notel and the shoes came off the session was basically ruined. I just can't beyond the cheesy feet smell. And once a smelly puss is detected I'll never give them another try. Two girls that are now on the smelly puss list that I now stay away from are unfortunately two of my recent most favorites that really let themselves go.
So many times people ask how do you find the good ones. It's just a knack you develop and can't teach. I can usually tell within two blocks of conversation if she passes the basic smell test and attitude test whether I want to keep her or not. Hence the $4 BJ offer comes to play!!
Originally Posted by CookyJar
Although with many years of mongering experience all over the U.S., I still have a little head that takes over from time to time regardless of gut feelings or experience.
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04-07-07 09:37 #124Senior Member

Posts: 5563RE: What I look for in an SW
I think what I look for most in a SW is cleanliness. Even that is not a barometer to a good time. Picking up girls on the street or in a club is not a science. On a number of occasions I have come across what seemed to be, on first look, the perfect date. I was later turned off by a smell. Sometime it is from the pussy or the feet, but the worse is body odor. And I can not tell you how many times I have picked up a real looker only to find out later that her undergarments were filthy.
Originally Posted by Bad Bad Boy
Whenever I can, like when I am out for a walk, I will check out the girls top and bottom. That is the Hair and Feet. Generally if a SWers hair is neat and fleshly done, and her kicks and socks are clean, you can assume that what you cannot see or smell are okay. However, a sweaty foot is an occupational hazard among SWers.
Next I look for alertness. If she has a lively step, a bounce and cheerful demeanor I am more apt to pick her up. I am not talking about that silliness that drugs or the lack of drugs sometimes give them. I try and stay away from the dull lifeless looking girl. I also avoid those desperate looking girls. I guess what I am really looking for is that normal look. I am looking for the girl that you are not sure about until she flashes you that smile.
Although it is not a science, you do develop a feel. Things like attitude and technique do not come into play until after the girl has been pickup. All things being considered, attitude and technique are the two most important elements when deciding whether to second date. I have never second dated a girl with a nice appearance but bad attitude and technique. I do not care how good a girl may look, I am not giving up the moola for her to just lay there, look good and complain are you done yet.
Some of the best times I have ever had were with average looking girls with good attitudes and good technique. Looks and appearance comes in at number three in my book. It is good if she has got them, but not absolutely necessary to get the job.
CookyJar








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