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  1. #12370
    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    Was browsing channel 4 web page. Indoor dining and bars closed until February 1st. After that, it seems like early closures and other restrictions such as occupancy limits. All this for a case of the sniffles.
    A local instagram model wannabe influencer has been taking advantage of the cheap flights to fly to Mexico, Las Vegas, Miami, etc for photo shoots all pandemic. Her recovering from cancer father, who looks damn fit, comes down with covid and dies 2 days later. And now she's still posting on instagram with missing you posts, sympathy flowers, and workouts espousing how hard it is to keep going to the gym through grief. We all have different ways to cope, but I'm wondering if he had a fat life insurance policy.

  2. #12369
    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    Was browsing channel 4 web page. Indoor dining and bars closed until February 1st. After that, it seems like early closures and other restrictions such as occupancy limits. All this for a case of the sniffles.
    Just buried two friends who died from those "sniffles" that you referenced.

  3. #12368
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    SR,

    It depends on what your goal is. That price range is certainly achievable.

    How much time do you want to spend hunting? If you live in Detroit and go when rent is late like the 3-6 day of a new month. It is easier to achieve those numbers.

    Do you want a specific girl or will any female do? Understand looks are subjective. You will get more 4,5,6's at that range. I prefer 8's and 9's and am willing to pay a premium for a hotter girl.

    You will get more moms, these girls tend to want repeatable stable income because they have kids they are taking care of and will go for a lower rate. A girl with out kids is more likely to give you the one time price especially if she is hit on by most of the guys in the club.

    You will tend to get more older girls. Some guys prefer late 20's and early 30's. It takes a bit more money to coax a teen to open her legs.

    I live in Chicago, I can't go every night and wait for a girl to be desperate. I go when I am in town, and if I see a girl that I want. I take her that night because I can't go back the next night and get her like a local Detroit guy can.

    Negotiation. Some guys like to Negotiate and beat the girl down to the lowest dollar. Fore example, let's say her tip out is $100. She has been to the VIP twice for 1 song each and made $50. She has gotten $10 in stage tips. At the end of the night she might take you and do whatever you want for $50 because she doesn't want to pay tip out from her pocket and this gives her $10 for gas money. You usually have to wait to the end of the night to get the best deal. They don't call it the magic hour for no reason. I never like doing this to girls, maybe I am too nice of a person. I also don't want to be in the club at 2:00 am I like to be back to my hotel by midnight because I have to go to work the next day.

    $200 is my top price, and I would tell you not go above this otherwise you raise the price of the market. Others may already feel I have raised the price as I usually pay $150 - $200.

    When girl throws out a price above $200. I tell her that I am sure she is worth it but that price is too high. I am regular guy and I don't want to insult her by counter offering, and suggest she approach some of the millionaires sitting in the club. She will quickly reduce to $200.

    If you want her to drop to her knees the moment you hit the VIP and finish you off in 3 songs (7-9 minutes) then $100 is a very achievable price.

    However I prefer when she says $200 to reply I usually pay $120 but since you are so special / beautiful / whatever I will pay $200 if you will {add whatever services you want}.

    * Not rush I am planning to take my time and we will be back there until I am satisfied.

    * FIV.

    * COF.

    * include naked photos.

    * include 6 months of your onlyfans membership.

    * give me your instagram / snapchat.

    * keep your clothes on at the start, and take one piece of clothing off each song, because I like watching girls undress.

    * masturbate to orgasm using a vibrator.

    Or add whatever other services you desire that make it worth more money for you. I am fortunate that I can afford $150 - $200. I know many guys who can not.

    One last comment is you only occasionally negotiate for VIP service, but she negotiates to go to the VIP multiple time each night she works. The negotiations are bit routine and she can do them from memory with her trying to get more and the guy trying to pay less.

    She will be surprised when you agree to her higher price. She will automatically like you more than all the other Johns. And when you negotiate for something unusual that not all the dudes ask for she will remember you and like you because instead of being some horny guy to get off, you will be an interesting horny guy to get off.

    Good luck and post about your adventures I would like to read about them.

    MM.
    Thanks MM it was good to get a refresher course, I haven't been to a club since the lockdowns started.

  4. #12367

    Shutdowns extended

    Was browsing channel 4 web page. Indoor dining and bars closed until February 1st. After that, it seems like early closures and other restrictions such as occupancy limits. All this for a case of the sniffles.

  5. #12366
    Quote Originally Posted by Jp1225  [View Original Post]
    I want to know do you take a spiral notebook with you? Or perhaps make notes on your cell. Or have the memory of an elephant?

    Either way. Great intel!
    JP,

    Memory of an elephant.

    PM me if you want more details.

    MM.

    PS, you are showing your age, no one uses a spiral notebook today

  6. #12365
    Quote Originally Posted by SleRicls  [View Original Post]
    What do you normally spend for VIP? 100-150?

    I haven't been to a strip club in years. I think I'm going to start after the pandemic.
    SR,

    It depends on what your goal is. That price range is certainly achievable.

    How much time do you want to spend hunting? If you live in Detroit and go when rent is late like the 3-6 day of a new month. It is easier to achieve those numbers.

    Do you want a specific girl or will any female do? Understand looks are subjective. You will get more 4,5,6's at that range. I prefer 8's and 9's and am willing to pay a premium for a hotter girl.

    You will get more moms, these girls tend to want repeatable stable income because they have kids they are taking care of and will go for a lower rate. A girl with out kids is more likely to give you the one time price especially if she is hit on by most of the guys in the club.

    You will tend to get more older girls. Some guys prefer late 20's and early 30's. It takes a bit more money to coax a teen to open her legs.

    I live in Chicago, I can't go every night and wait for a girl to be desperate. I go when I am in town, and if I see a girl that I want. I take her that night because I can't go back the next night and get her like a local Detroit guy can.

    Negotiation. Some guys like to Negotiate and beat the girl down to the lowest dollar. Fore example, let's say her tip out is $100. She has been to the VIP twice for 1 song each and made $50. She has gotten $10 in stage tips. At the end of the night she might take you and do whatever you want for $50 because she doesn't want to pay tip out from her pocket and this gives her $10 for gas money. You usually have to wait to the end of the night to get the best deal. They don't call it the magic hour for no reason. I never like doing this to girls, maybe I am too nice of a person. I also don't want to be in the club at 2:00 am I like to be back to my hotel by midnight because I have to go to work the next day.

    $200 is my top price, and I would tell you not go above this otherwise you raise the price of the market. Others may already feel I have raised the price as I usually pay $150 - $200.

    When girl throws out a price above $200. I tell her that I am sure she is worth it but that price is too high. I am regular guy and I don't want to insult her by counter offering, and suggest she approach some of the millionaires sitting in the club. She will quickly reduce to $200.

    If you want her to drop to her knees the moment you hit the VIP and finish you off in 3 songs (7-9 minutes) then $100 is a very achievable price.

    However I prefer when she says $200 to reply I usually pay $120 but since you are so special / beautiful / whatever I will pay $200 if you will {add whatever services you want}.

    * Not rush I am planning to take my time and we will be back there until I am satisfied.

    * FIV.

    * COF.

    * include naked photos.

    * include 6 months of your onlyfans membership.

    * give me your instagram / snapchat.

    * keep your clothes on at the start, and take one piece of clothing off each song, because I like watching girls undress.

    * masturbate to orgasm using a vibrator.

    Or add whatever other services you desire that make it worth more money for you. I am fortunate that I can afford $150 - $200. I know many guys who can not.

    One last comment is you only occasionally negotiate for VIP service, but she negotiates to go to the VIP multiple time each night she works. The negotiations are bit routine and she can do them from memory with her trying to get more and the guy trying to pay less.

    She will be surprised when you agree to her higher price. She will automatically like you more than all the other Johns. And when you negotiate for something unusual that not all the dudes ask for she will remember you and like you because instead of being some horny guy to get off, you will be an interesting horny guy to get off.

    Good luck and post about your adventures I would like to read about them.

    MM.

  7. #12364

    She definitely isn't toned

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBro  [View Original Post]
    Here is Nicole.

    https://imgur.com/bbsu5Dg

    This must have been pre-pandemic because she's not that firm. She's flabby. Looked similar to the pic with clothes on but when they come off you see it. Granted she's not fat or ugly. Just not the spinner or even curvy stripper I assumed she would be. Cassie is also flabby.
    But she is very talented and a willing participant. I saw her quite a few times at BTs and always left satisfied.

  8. #12363

    Great post!

    Quote Originally Posted by SleRicls  [View Original Post]
    What do you normally spend for VIP? 100-150?

    I haven't been to a strip club in years. I think I'm going to start after the pandemic.
    I want to know do you take a spiral notebook with you? Or perhaps make notes on your cell. Or have the memory of an elephant?

    Either way. Great intel!

  9. #12362

    Great post

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    Over 12 visits I spent time with 14 girls in 20 VIP sessions. I went to BT 11 nights and Flight club 1 night.

    I evaluate the girls on looks first and then attitude.

    My preference if for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up.

    I know looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who like that.

    I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a good looking girl and invite her sit and talk to me.

    While we are talking I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have natural good chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to a VIP session.

    I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set.

    There were 4 girls named Lana. I spent time with 2 of them One was black and one was white.

    I enjoyed the following girls and want to repeat with them. I recommend others try VIP sessions with them and are likely to be happy with;.

    Lana (black) 2 sessions.

    Lana (white).

    Willow I think she only worked one night.

    As always your mileage may vary, and you may have a better time or connection than I did. The session was satisfactory or in some cases the first session was good and the subsequent one was not. I might still do another session with these girls but depending on who else is available but I prefer to try a new girl.

    Mia 2 sessions.

    Nyla 2 sessions.

    Sophia 2 sessions.

    Mena.

    Arabella 3 sessions, first two were good, last one was not.

    Emerald 2 sessions first one was good, last one was not.

    Athena I think she only worked one night.

    I had bad sessions and will not repeat with;.

    Summer.

    Nyra.

    Kayla.

    Alasia at Flight Club.

    There were 5 girls I thought were attractive and wanted to try but didn't for the following reasons.

    Leela (Flight club) insisted on payment up front.

    Barbie insisted on payment up front.

    Chloe insisted on payment up front.

    Ari refused to come sit with me.

    Rain golden pussy would not go below $200 for VIP.

    Other girl I remember but did not session with because I did not have a good conversion with them or I had previous bad experiences with them. I recommend avoiding;.

    Julia gained a lot of weight.

    Jules.

    Maliya.

    Kimmy gained a lot of weight.

    Jessica.

    Elise.

    Bella.

    Andrea.

    Jenny.

    Victoria.

    Sophie.

    Princess.

    MM.
    What do you normally spend for VIP? 100-150?

    I haven't been to a strip club in years. I think I'm going to start after the pandemic.

  10. #12361
    Quote Originally Posted by TokyoJump1  [View Original Post]
    Work sent me to Pontiac and it made me think.

    How come there are no strip clubs in Pontiac? I feel like Pontiac used to have some and they were all closed down? I would love to hear stories about these!

    Also, When did Pontiac shut down their strip clubs? I feel like they should allow them and make some nice revenue for their city.

    Maybe they were open in my 20's but I mainly hung around Detroit and not Pontiac.
    Because L. Brooks Patterson wouldn't allow it in Oakland county.

  11. #12360
    Quote Originally Posted by TokyoJump1  [View Original Post]
    Work sent me to Pontiac and it made me think.

    How come there are no strip clubs in Pontiac? I feel like Pontiac used to have some and they were all closed down? I would love to hear stories about these!

    Also, When did Pontiac shut down their strip clubs? I feel like they should allow them and make some nice revenue for their city.

    Maybe they were open in my 20's but I mainly hung around Detroit and not Pontiac.
    I'm curious too if Pontiac had any clubs Macomb only had Jon Johns and the Traffic Light.

  12. #12359
    Quote Originally Posted by DontPlayWell19  [View Original Post]
    What do they look like?

    Pm if you would have pics and number.

    Thanks.
    Here is Nicole.

    https://imgur.com/bbsu5Dg

    This must have been pre-pandemic because she's not that firm. She's flabby. Looked similar to the pic with clothes on but when they come off you see it. Granted she's not fat or ugly. Just not the spinner or even curvy stripper I assumed she would be. Cassie is also flabby.

  13. #12358

    2020 Experiences

    Over 12 visits I spent time with 14 girls in 20 VIP sessions. I went to BT 11 nights and Flight club 1 night.

    I evaluate the girls on looks first and then attitude.

    My preference if for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up.

    I know looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who like that.

    I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a good looking girl and invite her sit and talk to me.

    While we are talking I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have natural good chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to a VIP session.

    I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set.

    There were 4 girls named Lana. I spent time with 2 of them One was black and one was white.

    I enjoyed the following girls and want to repeat with them. I recommend others try VIP sessions with them and are likely to be happy with;.

    Lana (black) – 2 sessions.

    Lana (white).

    Willow – I think she only worked one night.

    As always your mileage may vary, and you may have a better time or connection than I did. The session was satisfactory or in some cases the first session was good and the subsequent one was not. I might still do another session with these girls but depending on who else is available but I prefer to try a new girl.

    Mia – 2 sessions.

    Nyla – 2 sessions.

    Sophia – 2 sessions.

    Mena.

    Arabella – 3 sessions, first two were good, last one was not.

    Emerald – 2 sessions first one was good, last one was not.

    Athena – I think she only worked one night.

    I had bad sessions and will not repeat with;.

    Summer.

    Nyra.

    Kayla.

    Alasia at Flight Club.

    There were 5 girls I thought were attractive and wanted to try but didn't for the following reasons.

    Leela (Flight club) – insisted on payment up front.

    Barbie – insisted on payment up front.

    Chloe – insisted on payment up front.

    Ari – refused to come sit with me.

    Rain – golden pussy would not go below $200 for VIP.

    Other girl I remember but did not session with because I did not have a good conversion with them or I had previous bad experiences with them. I recommend avoiding;.

    Julia – gained a lot of weight.

    Jules.

    Maliya.

    Kimmy – gained a lot of weight.

    Jessica.

    Elise.

    Bella.

    Andrea.

    Jenny.

    Victoria.

    Sophie.

    Princess.

    MM.

  14. #12357
    Quote Originally Posted by DontPlayWell19  [View Original Post]
    What do they look like?

    Pm if you would have pics and number.

    Thanks.
    You can find Nicole's pics in the Seeking Arrangement part of Detroit forum. Just search her name. I can't upload the pics of her that I have. But here's Cassie:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails D1E0734F-98BA-4A60-A5E6-61E0F5973E02.jpg‎  

  15. #12356

    Shenanigans, litte davids were last 2 bikini bars in pontiac

    There were 2 bikini bars (little davids & shenanigans) left before the recession of 2008, those 2 folded due to the recession. I never visited therm. Oakland County got real strict and closed most under Brooks Patteson from way back. The ones he closed were for bullshit dressing room code violations or some other technicality as I was told.

    I always went to Flint since it was much cheaper back in the day.

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