News and Media Reports

[JunkSecond]

After doing some research I do happen to agree with you. I haven't seen any video evidence myself but for the most part it seems like he was in the wrong. With that being said this is an isolated incident. The media tends to misconstrue their information to incite a reaction. But overall we do need reform. It's not just the killings. Although obviously that angers people more. It's the mentality that a lot of officers have, racist or not, that they are the law and what they say goes and they violate rights daily. Obviously they do it more to minorities and that is the main issue. How would you feel if you got pulled over by a cop for no reason, pulled from your vehicle for no reason or some made up shit like they smell weed for example, then these cops choose to make you lean against the hot hood of their vehicle or some more fucked up shit. Cops have been doing shit like this for ages. These small little acts just to fuckn with you and show you that your not shit. Some of these ended up in murders. Some of them were warranted while others were not. The only difference is the fact now that we have the advent of technology, we are seeing proof.

Punked, again, nothing personal but the media narrative on many recent events, not just Jacob Blake, is based on cherry picked facts and very biased. If you really dig deep you may find that being pulled over for "nothing" rarely happens in these situations. What you also may find is that small things like a burned out taillight or expired tags escalate quickly for no good reason. The media keeps talking about "no justice for the murders" of Jacob Blake, George Floyd, Trevon Martin and Michael Brown. From what I have found and read, all of those individuals made poor choices that substantially contributed to their own death. Are the people with their fingers on the trigger completely blameless? Not in my opinion, as in hindsight, I can Monday morning quarterback an outcome that could avoid the death of many of these individuals. Thinking about the two kids in this name list is especially difficult. At the end of the day the problem is that the responding officers and people involved are forced to make split second life changing decisions while the rest of us have hours if not days to review video and first person accounts of events. No matter your opinion of who is "right or wrong" in these situations, I like to think that we all can find unity in agreement that if the individuals involved made different choices those departed may yet still be with us today.

I am white. When I was young and dumb I got a new license plate in the mail but couldn't put it on because my old one was rusted tight. I got pulled over for expired tags in a one traffic light town, gave the officer my license and papers, explained what was up, told the officer my new plate was in the back seat and turned around to get it. What I didn't see was his rookie partner behind the car. She drew and started yelling when I turned around. He didn't know what she saw and drew on me too. I was paralyzed with fear and a mouse fart away from having my brains decorate the inside of my windshield. When I figured out shit was going down and heard their instructions, I "dropped it" "slowly put my hands behind my head" "exited the vehicle backwards" "leaned over the hood and slowly put my hands behind my back. " I was cuffed, searched and ordered to "not move" while his partner searched my car and found "the object" I was holding which was a grocery bag of snacks and my new tags. They stepped away but I was close enough to hear them. They basically had a sigh of relief, told each other what they saw, agreed there was no weapon and then my I'd and papers came back clean. Even then his partner was still worked up, he told her to go put something in the trunk and take a moment to decompress. He then explained what happened and let me go without even a warning and told me that if I ever get stopped again, never ever take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been stopped twice since then without issue. Bad things happen to people who do dumb shit and can't follow simple instructions. I consider myself fortunate to only make one mistake that day. As I drove away I saw where his partner had puked up her lunch behind the cruiser. Looking back on events that happened 22 years ago, with much personal growth and maturity, I don't blame them. I also realize they may have been just as scared as me. I am so embarrassed about this, I have never told friends or family it even happened.

The Walter Scott shooting is one that personally bothers me. He was pulled over for a burned out tail light. He had no registration or insurance and a wavering story of who owned the car he was driving. He also had an outstanding arrest warrant for failure to pay child support. Despite all the flags both people act respectfully, at first. He gave his drivers license to the officer then decided to make a run for it when the officer was running his info.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/0...e-shooting.cnn

Another video starts when the officer catches Mr. Scott. It's not clear what happens but there is physical contact between the officer and Mr. Scott as Mr. Scott resists arrest and runs away, again. The officer claimed Mr. Scott grabbed his taser. The officer fired 7-8 times at Mr Scott as he was running away, killing Mr. Scott. The media made a slow motion frame by frame analysis that shows what appears to be the officer's taser be thrown behind him during the struggle. The officer appears to pick up the taser and lay it beside Mr. Scott's body after shooting him. Of everything that happened, that was the focus of the majority of the news that played on endless repeat.

I believe that of all the shootings with high media coverage that have occurred IMO this is the one that most closely fits the sensational headlines of "white cop shoots unarmed black man as he runs away. " As you can see there is much more to the story than the headline, but many fail to look beyond as the media continues to hammer this point, over and over and over again. Did Mr. Scott grab the officers taser? Did the officer not see it fly behind him and think Mr. Scott ran away with it? Is it even justifiable to shoot someone who has a taser? All good questions that will likely never have an answer we all agree with. When putting myself in this situation, I would like to think that with Mr. Scott being 50, even if he had my taser, I would have decided to chase him down again instead of shooting him. But again, Monday morning quarterback after days of thought vs the entire thing taking six seconds to unfold. The same "what if" could be pondered if Mr. Scott had decided to not run and be taken into custody on an outstanding warrant. Regardless of any of our opinions of "right or wrong" Mr. Scott is dead. Officer Slager ultimately took a plea deal. Violation of civil rights and obstruction of justice. He received a 20 year sentence. His wife was 8 months pregnant when the shooting happened. All of it was avoidable if those involved had made different choices. The whole thing is heartbreaking when you think of the families impacted.

Circling back to the media, when this shooting happened you couldn't find a news source that did not have constant coverage until the next big thing. There are only a few stories of the sentence and it was a mere bullet point in the nightly news, and no mention afterwards. If the media is really seeking justice for black deaths why is this outcome not celebrated and used as a positive example of what should happen in a civilized society? If you ask me, I think there are plenty of racial tensions for some very valid reasons in this country and the media is more interested in stoking that fire and inciting riots than constructively working towards solutions of real problems.

And just so you guys know, I am not some weirdo with an obsession of researching white cops shooting black men. I volunteer as a mentor for an African American Male Initiative program. When these events happen and my kids want to talk I skip the headlines, watch the videos with them and just talk with them about what they think, how they feel and ask them how things could have been different. I have had these discussions far too frequently, and can only offer hopes and prayers that we all start changing our behaviors for the better.

[Sgt Lurker]

The cops are always telling people not to take action themselves. Here is a news flash, if someone breaks into my house and I am able, I will call the police, inform that I have an intruder and that I am armed. Then, if the perp or perps put me in a bad situation inside my own home, I may very well blow their brains out. But that is different, George Zimmerman never touched Trayvon until Trayvon attacked him. George was not breaking any law, Trayvon chose to react by breaking the law.

Travon Martin "jumped" (you really mean attacked 1 on 1) Georgia Zimmeran. After he unlawfully stalked and harassed him outside his own father's neighborhood.
Even the police told George to "stop following him!
Trayvon acted in self defense. I would assault anyone following me in the woods also. Or anyone following me period for that matter. So many injustices with that case.
SMH.

[Parrot Scope]

You have correctly commented on this specific incident and I agree with you. What I have learned in my 30+ years with the Army is to never take the first reports as being accurate. Wait until a proper and complete investigation is conducted and reported. However, today's culture does not want to believe the actual facts once they have been investigated and reported, they want to stick with the damning initial reports by the media. That Michael Brown did not have his hands up so cop would not shoot, he was charging the cop again in a vicious attack. Trayvon Martin jumped Zimmerman. I could go on but you get the point. Wait for the true report and do not assume it has been spun, take the time to read and watch the entirety.

Travon Martin "jumped" (you really mean attacked 1 on 1) Georgia Zimmeran. After he unlawfully stalked and harassed him outside his own father's neighborhood.

Even the police told George to "stop following him!

Trayvon acted in self defense. I would assault anyone following me in the woods also. Or anyone following me period for that matter. So many injustices with that case.

SMH.

[ComTech42]

President Trump took on the Swamp. From the moment he took on Obama the swamp unleashed the attack dogs. The media.

Under constant barrage he accomplished great things for real Americans proving the professional politicians (the swamp) were stealing from the.

Working Americans. We will never know the truth about yesterday. Evil is sucking the breath out of America's Champion. History tells most great.

Civilizations only last 250 to 300 years. The United States of America is closing in on 250 fast.

[Sgt Lurker]

You have correctly commented on this specific incident and I agree with you. What I have learned in my 30+ years with the Army is to never take the first reports as being accurate. Wait until a proper and complete investigation is conducted and reported. However, today's culture does not want to believe the actual facts once they have been investigated and reported, they want to stick with the damning initial reports by the media. That Michael Brown did not have his hands up so cop would not shoot, he was charging the cop again in a vicious attack. Trayvon Martin jumped Zimmerman. I could go on but you get the point. Wait for the true report and do not assume it has been spun, take the time to read and watch the entirety.

Punked, nothing personal, but I want to use this post as an example. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I am not disagreeing with you as a person, but want to rip the media a new one, specifically this CNN article. If all I read was this article I may likely draw the same conclusions. Bad cops do exist and do shoot people in the back as they run away, but that is not what happened.

The facts as I have gathered them:

Mr. Blake's ex called the cops when Mr. Blake showed up at her house and tried to take their children. Upon running his name through the criminal database the responding officers saw he had a history of domestic violence and an open FELONY arrest warrant. At that point it did not matter who was right or wrong in the current domestic dispute or if any crimes had been committed that day. Mr Blake was going to be taken into custody for an open warrant.

After multiple attempts to take Mr. Blake into custody with him resisting, Mr. Blake was tazed 2-3 times with no effect. I have not seen a tox report but think it obvious that Mr. Blake was feeling no pain. He then proceeded to attempt to flee the scene in his SUV. The kids were still inside. At that point the officers proceeded to physically remove him from the vehicle. When the officer laid hands on Mr Blake he pulled a knife and "moved his hand with the knife towards the officer. " The officer proceeded to "discharge his weapon until Mr. Blake dropped the knife. " I have seen people get shot. I can tell you with absolute certainty that 1-2 shots to center mass will disable motor skills of all natural / normal humans. Mr. Blake took 7 hits, point blank, to center mass before he dropped the knife. Again, I have not seen tox reports but that is not normal.

Now on to the CNN article. The first half presents very few of the above facts, out of sequence if they are mentioned. IMO it is presented in such a way to make the reader think that Mr. Blake was shot while fleeing the scene, alone and unarmed. Nothing they said is a lie, but they left out a lot of the important parts and shuffled the order to make it confusing. The second half goes on to explain that he did have a knife but again adds extraneous material like a quote from his lawyer saying that knives are legal and they added refuted statements (Mr. Blake admitted to having a knife) from witnesses saying he did not have a knife at all? What purpose does adding extraneous and refuted statements serve other than to sow confusion? It is never said or implied that Mr. Blake had a knife in his hand while resisting arrest when he tried to drive away with his kids in the back seat. Bits and pieces are there, jumbled, but not put together in any capacity to be clear and concise about what happened when the officer made the decision to shoot.

There is so much Polish on this turd it is blinding. The dirty cop shot the hero in the back and he was just trying to get away and not cause harm to anyone. Pretty much the same spin techniques that turn misdemeanor offenses into international human trafficking RICO crimes.

These events happen, and will continue so long as people have free will to do wrong to others. I would ask anyone / everyone to read the same police reports and watch the body cam videos (the same instruments used by the media) and write your own story with the available facts vs reading one that has already been spun to serve an alternative purpose.

[I Luv Emall]

I would ask anyone / everyone to read the same police reports and watch the body cam videos (the same instruments used by the media) and write your own story with the available facts vs reading one that has already been spun to serve an alternative purpose.

Come on man, stop thinking for yourself, this is clearly another example of an oppressed dude. Forget the video of the officer repeatedly yelling "drop the knife, drop the knife!" That's immaterial. It doesn't matter that the guy's ex called the police there, and that the guy put himself in that position with his past record and current actions, it's all somebody else's fault, because he's oppressed.

By the way, not that what took place yesterday was admirable in any way, but where's all the outrage for the shooting of the unarmed woman that took place?

[PunkedLife]

Punked, nothing personal, but I want to use this post as an example. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I am not disagreeing with you as a person, but want to rip the media a new one, specifically this CNN article. If all I read was this article I may likely draw the same conclusions. Bad cops do exist and do shoot people in the back as they run away, but that is not what happened.

The facts as I have gathered them:

Mr. Blake's ex called the cops when Mr. Blake showed up at her house and tried to take their children. Upon running his name through the criminal database the responding officers saw he had a history of domestic violence and an open FELONY arrest warrant. At that point it did not matter who was right or wrong in the current domestic dispute or if any crimes had been committed that day. Mr Blake was going to be taken into custody for an open warrant.

After multiple attempts to take Mr. Blake into custody with him resisting, Mr. Blake was tazed 2-3 times with no effect. I have not seen a tox report but think it obvious that Mr. Blake was feeling no pain. He then proceeded to attempt to flee the scene in his SUV. The kids were still inside. At that point the officers proceeded to physically remove him from the vehicle. When the officer laid hands on Mr Blake he pulled a knife and "moved his hand with the knife towards the officer. " The officer proceeded to "discharge his weapon until Mr. Blake dropped the knife. " I have seen people get shot. I can tell you with absolute certainty that 1-2 shots to center mass will disable motor skills of all natural / normal humans. Mr. Blake took 7 hits, point blank, to center mass before he dropped the knife. Again, I have not seen tox reports but that is not normal..

After doing some research I do happen to agree with you. I haven't seen any video evidence myself but for the most part it seems like he was in the wrong. With that being said this is an isolated incident. The media tends to misconstrue their information to incite a reaction. But overall we do need reform. It's not just the killings. Although obviously that angers people more. It's the mentality that a lot of officers have, racist or not, that they are the law and what they say goes and they violate rights daily. Obviously they do it more to minorities and that is the main issue. How would you feel if you got pulled over by a cop for no reason, pulled from your vehicle for no reason or some made up shit like they smell weed for example, then these cops choose to make you lean against the hot hood of their vehicle or some more fucked up shit. Cops have been doing shit like this for ages. These small little acts just to fuckn with you and show you that your not shit. Some of these ended up in murders. Some of them were warranted while others were not. The only difference is the fact now that we have the advent of technology, we are seeing proof. Some of it like this case are overblown or just misinformation but now we can actually have this discussion with investigations. In the past George Floyd would have died and the cops would have made some shit up and everyone would have believed them. Now we have true accountability. But still the problem continues. I know you've probably heard this plenty of times already but I'll say it again. What happened yesterday evening at the capitol building would have been completely different if it were black protestors. Look what happened this past summer. Yes I understand there were rioters and destruction during those times. I'm not defending these individuals. Just like there were peaceful protesters yesterday but people only want to speak about the rioters. But the consequences were different as far as police and military numbers and what they chose to do once laws were broken. We can sit here and argue individual situations till we're blue in the face but it's more important to discuss the inequality as a whole between black people and well minorities in general vs white supremist. Yesterday was a clear example and I you may be able to defend a lot of bs but I truly don't see how someone educated can defend that shit. Its like this country becomes more of a laughing stock of the world as each day passes. I don't want to ever hear an American pass judgment on how another country is running their shit.

[JunkSecond]

CNN: Officer who shot Jacob Blake will not face charges, district attorney says.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/ja...ncy/index.html

So this man was running away with a knife. What did the cop fear? That the man was going to throw the knife back like some martial arts movie and hit him bullseye in the heart? The cops excuse is some complete ass pull defense. He shot to kill point blank period. Dude was just lucky the cop sucks at his job. You know shooting. My problem only has to do about the use of deadly force. Again my previous post. White guy with an assault rifle.

Cop politely asks the citizen Sir can you please put that gun down? Thank you. Black guy with a tazer, a knife, fucking unarmed, being black. Oh shit cop pisses on himself and empties his clip. I swear this shit sounds so retarded until you rewind the tape and actually see it in action.

On another note let's go away from the black vs cops thing. What y'all think about Daniel Shaver, the white guy at the hotel nearly pissing on himself afraid of dying. Huh? Was that not a use of unnecessary lethal force? The cop was not only acquitted but was secretly allowed back in the force long enough to collect disability and / or a pension. Talk about fucked up. But we don't need police reform huh.

https://youtu.be/OflGwyWcft8

In case someone needs to refresh their memory.

Punked, nothing personal, but I want to use this post as an example. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I am not disagreeing with you as a person, but want to rip the media a new one, specifically this CNN article. If all I read was this article I may likely draw the same conclusions. Bad cops do exist and do shoot people in the back as they run away, but that is not what happened.

The facts as I have gathered them:

Mr. Blake's ex called the cops when Mr. Blake showed up at her house and tried to take their children. Upon running his name through the criminal database the responding officers saw he had a history of domestic violence and an open FELONY arrest warrant. At that point it did not matter who was right or wrong in the current domestic dispute or if any crimes had been committed that day. Mr Blake was going to be taken into custody for an open warrant.

After multiple attempts to take Mr. Blake into custody with him resisting, Mr. Blake was tazed 2-3 times with no effect. I have not seen a tox report but think it obvious that Mr. Blake was feeling no pain. He then proceeded to attempt to flee the scene in his SUV. The kids were still inside. At that point the officers proceeded to physically remove him from the vehicle. When the officer laid hands on Mr Blake he pulled a knife and "moved his hand with the knife towards the officer. " The officer proceeded to "discharge his weapon until Mr. Blake dropped the knife. " I have seen people get shot. I can tell you with absolute certainty that 1-2 shots to center mass will disable motor skills of all natural / normal humans. Mr. Blake took 7 hits, point blank, to center mass before he dropped the knife. Again, I have not seen tox reports but that is not normal.

Now on to the CNN article. The first half presents very few of the above facts, out of sequence if they are mentioned. IMO it is presented in such a way to make the reader think that Mr. Blake was shot while fleeing the scene, alone and unarmed. Nothing they said is a lie, but they left out a lot of the important parts and shuffled the order to make it confusing. The second half goes on to explain that he did have a knife but again adds extraneous material like a quote from his lawyer saying that knives are legal and they added refuted statements (Mr. Blake admitted to having a knife) from witnesses saying he did not have a knife at all? What purpose does adding extraneous and refuted statements serve other than to sow confusion? It is never said or implied that Mr. Blake had a knife in his hand while resisting arrest when he tried to drive away with his kids in the back seat. Bits and pieces are there, jumbled, but not put together in any capacity to be clear and concise about what happened when the officer made the decision to shoot.

There is so much Polish on this turd it is blinding. The dirty cop shot the hero in the back and he was just trying to get away and not cause harm to anyone. Pretty much the same spin techniques that turn misdemeanor offenses into international human trafficking RICO crimes.

These events happen, and will continue so long as people have free will to do wrong to others. I would ask anyone / everyone to read the same police reports and watch the body cam videos (the same instruments used by the media) and write your own story with the available facts vs reading one that has already been spun to serve an alternative purpose.

[Game Cock Too]

You can get an Amen and an Awomen!

Although tasers may be classified as lethal, most do not kill, unless the victim has a secondary incident because of the act of being tased. A lot of police departments (I dare not speak for all) taser each other during training, but hardly any of them shoot each other (without a vest), but I will look into that before stating it as fact. This deer season, I just might consider leaving my rifle at home. Stay safe. Don't drive drunk. Be lawful. Kiss the wife or provider.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=taser+training+police.

[Game Cock Too]

Those police were called there, it's not like they were looking for trouble. And they were trying to make an arrest, and it had nothing to do with his offenses or blotter after the fact. His resisting arrest is what had to do with his offenses, and why the situation unfortunately turned deadly. I'm not going to sit here and say all the right decisions were made, but I'm also not going to sit here and say that I would have made all the right decisions in the heat of the moment either. The fact is Mr. Brooks created a life-threatening situation by wrestling with armed police officers, striking them, and taking their weapons and using them against them. The taser could have disabled those officers and then who knows what? Certainly there have been many officers killed in the line of duty where struggles just like this started. It's easy in hindsight to look at the video and say what could have been done, but in the heat of the moment with adrenaline going and your life on the line, you're not always thinking your clearest, and instincts do take over. It's unfortunate what happened but that situation was clearly created and escalated by Mr. Brooks, and for you to turn that around and make it the officers' responsibility is just wrong. Walk a mile if you dare....

In the heat of the moment, anything and everything can happen and go wrong. Personally, I'm more to the point: If you're drunk driving, go to jail. Having a conversation with a drunk person is like having a conversation with an angry woman. Both are a waste of time when it's happening. Hell, in a tussle, "I" may have shot him in that same scenario. Knowing drunks like I do (LOL), I know how belligerent and aggressive they can become. We've all seen them. Some fall asleep, some want to fight. I'm not trying to find out which route the person's personality is going to take. That's just me. I guess they thought he would go peacefully. The character assessments come in afterwards, good or bad, which people latch onto to try and make a case or break a case.

[NuGuy36]

CNN: Officer who shot Jacob Blake will not face charges, district attorney says.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/ja...ncy/index.html

So this man was running away with a knife. What did the cop fear? That the man was going to throw the knife back like some martial arts movie and hit him bullseye in the heart? The cops excuse is some complete ass pull defense. He shot to kill point blank period. Dude was just lucky the cop sucks at his job. You know shooting. My problem only has to do about the use of deadly force. Again my previous post. White guy with an assault rifle.

Cop politely asks the citizen Sir can you please put that gun down? Thank you. Black guy with a tazer, a knife, fucking unarmed, being black. Oh shit cop pisses on himself and empties his clip. I swear this shit sounds so retarded until you rewind the tape and actually see it in action..

Social experiment on cops.. Black Man With Gun vs. White Man With Gun.

Cop vs White man with gun.

Cop:"I need to see your I. D."

White Male:"No".

Cop:"Why not?

White Male:"Because I'm not doing any crime."

Cop:"Okay."

Cop vs Blackman with gun.

Cop: "Drop to the ground now".

Black male: Says nothing & complies immediately.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YXv2Pjtc3Zk

[Game Cock Too]

None of that matters. Shit stain avoided a lawful arrest and escalated the situation. No need to try to choreograph exactly what you think should happen.

I will continue to give my thoughts, opinions, and choreography, whether you agree or not. That's what we all do on this board.

[MartyBass864]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/uni...npower-problem

[YeOldHornDawg]

I'm so glad you brought up that point. Just a week or two before Paul Howard called a taser a deadly weapon. Let's make something very clear. If you fight with the police at the Very minimum you're going to take an ass whooping. If you get a weapon from a officer then you are going to have a problem with lead poisoning. Are all police officers bad no should bad cops be Prosecuted Hell yes. I grew up in the Atlanta metro area back in the 80's a rap artist had a song about an Atlanta officer they called pac-man because he didn't arrest the dope boys he just took their drugs. There will always be good cops and bad cops but in the end most just want to do some good and go home. As for Queen Keisha that little girls death is on her head as she told the police to do nothing. I'm afraid that the socialist scum will get their wish and defund the police and regular citizens will pay the price.

You can get an Amen and an Awomen!

[PunkedLife]

CNN: Officer who shot Jacob Blake will not face charges, district attorney says.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/ja...ncy/index.html

So this man was running away with a knife. What did the cop fear? That the man was going to throw the knife back like some martial arts movie and hit him bullseye in the heart? The cops excuse is some complete ass pull defense. He shot to kill point blank period. Dude was just lucky the cop sucks at his job. You know shooting. My problem only has to do about the use of deadly force. Again my previous post. White guy with an assault rifle.

Cop politely asks the citizen Sir can you please put that gun down? Thank you. Black guy with a tazer, a knife, fucking unarmed, being black. Oh shit cop pisses on himself and empties his clip. I swear this shit sounds so retarded until you rewind the tape and actually see it in action.

On another note let's go away from the black vs cops thing. What y'all think about Daniel Shaver, the white guy at the hotel nearly pissing on himself afraid of dying. Huh? Was that not a use of unnecessary lethal force? The cop was not only acquitted but was secretly allowed back in the force long enough to collect disability and / or a pension. Talk about fucked up. But we don't need police reform huh.

https://youtu.be/OflGwyWcft8

In case someone needs to refresh their memory.