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[Morgan Creamin]

https://www.seeking.com/member/5f1d6...d-e59749664833

She asked for 5, I offered 3, got blocked. Won't share pics before an agreement.

[BusSit69]

It really depends, everyone has their own perception of attractiveness. I like alternative colored hair, tattoos, etc. I have a fondness for hippies and goths. For me, the people that I'm most interested in have absolutely no interest in me. No self-respecting hippie / goth would bother with a pretty conservative black guy. The hippies are generally happy with whatever I give them; the goths are generally stuck on themselves. All that being said, in the 2-3 years that I've been doing the SB thing, I've discussed pricing with about 40-50% of the people before they fucked me. When we meet, it is an actual date. We go to a real restaurant and talk about what we have in common and then if it progresses further than that then we move on. About half of the time, they ask about money and I tell them $300; no one has ever turned it down. The other times, we just fucked and they expected some sort of compensation. Only 1. 5 have ever complained after the fact. One I gave $350 and she was angry and offended (okay, she was beyond pissed) and wanted me to give her $600. I didn't. The other told me repeatedly she wanted $225 and I gave it to her and then she claimed asked for $275. I didn't argue, I gave her the $50 and then she said she couldn't trust me because I tried to short her. I then showed her the texts with $225, but she still told me I doctored them to get out of paying her $50. I then realized she was too stupid to fuck.

Judging from some of reports from people here, I'm probably more of a traditional SD. I'm not looking for the longest cheapest fuck in the most holes that I can find. I'm looking more for someone that pretends to give a fuck about me, makes me smile when I'm having a bad day and that is much more attractive than I normally could get without paying. I don't mind spending more for that. I do have my limits, but for me, $250-300 is usually the starting point, with $400-450 being the absolute maximum. Of course, I spend money on them outside of our meetings. I buy them inexpensive gifts, help them with a bill or two if they need it and of course take them out when we meet up (oh, I pay for the hotel room, someone mentioned that to me recently). For me, it's worth it and I can afford it. So, I may be one of those guys that is driving the price up, but I get what I consider to be quality SBs and I'm happy.

As long as you and the SB $ are on the same page and happy. Thats all that matters! Diff $troke $ for diff folk $!

[AsaMona22]

I almost never give a sb or provider anything real besides my first name, and on several occasions I've been very happy with that choice. Sometimes it takes a while for the crazy to come out.

I'm probably too cautious though, most these girls are way more embarrassed of their activities than we are.

Thanks for qll the replies fellas. I've been financially stable this yr more than ever. Am just too lazy to go fishing and put in the work LOL. I like to pick one from the barrel, get there. Wham bam thank you ma'am and done. These tna chix are getting expensive, so if I'm paying 400 an hr, might as well enjoy multiple hours. Maybe 1 day! #freeagentlifestyle.

[CoffeeTurd]

I've asked this in the past. But I know escorts and SBs are different. What I'm worried about is having them know where you work and live. Or if she gets preggers (if you're hitting raw) or doxx you?

I've read enough where some people invite them to their homes or hotels? I guess it depends on how to gage if she's mental or not. Idk still learning.

To each, their own. For me.

Escorts, never. Sugar, yes. Once I can trust them enough, I've invited them over. It makes them feel fully trusted and then they feel comfortable inviting friends, trying new things, sleeping over multiple days, whatever. I don't leave my wallet out or expensive things around, but I let them borrow seemingly expensive things that I can easily replace. Also, I usually know where they live by then too. If things go well, they get comfortable and ask for less, but that depends on how comfortable you live as well. I tend to invest in babies that want to be apart of a successful fun life rather than me funding their excursions.

Never invite crazy in, through. Anyway who has crazy eyes, seems jealous, drugged, won't stop talking about how their past is hard or people suck. Women who are TGTBT should be time tested too. You'll figure it out over time.

[Kinkaid69]

I've asked this in the past. But I know escorts and SBs are different. What I'm worried about is having them know where you work and live. Or if she gets preggers (if you're hitting raw) or doxx you?

I've read enough where some people invite them to their homes or hotels? I guess it depends on how to gage if she's mental or not. Idk still learning.

I almost never give a sb or provider anything real besides my first name, and on several occasions I've been very happy with that choice. Sometimes it takes a while for the crazy to come out.

I'm probably too cautious though, most these girls are way more embarrassed of their activities than we are.

[Tuchon]

Yo. I'm glad I found sa through you guys. Tna is a joke now got 2 girls / roomies, giving it up. Man I feel like a *** when one girl walks out and the other one walks in LOL. Then you got girls asking $$$ ppm for 30 min hahahahaha.

[Michael1967]

I've asked this in the past. But I know escorts and SBs are different. What I'm worried about is having them know where you work and live. Or if she gets preggers (if you're hitting raw) or doxx you?

I've read enough where some people invite them to their homes or hotels? I guess it depends on how to gage if she's mental or not. Idk still learning.

I've encountered hundreds of more issues with hookers than Sugar Babies. I don't let them know where I work or live. I did have one that was able to figure it out and though we don't see each other any more, she is one of my very few FaceBook friends. For my SBs, they get the Google phone number and my address is whatever hotel we're at.

[Michael1967]

Just curious, and I'm sure this has been hashed out. How exactly do you find girls for 300 that are attractive. Admittedly, I usually go for a younger age than most people here (under 25), but for me it's hard to break out of the 300-500 range. Obviously there's always people who want more. Usually if they want under 300 they are either:

1. Very new.

2. AA.

3. Obvious physical issues.

Do you usually wait until meeting to bring up money? I do it over text which may make it harder. Also I guess I don't prioritize the "best deal" over everything else (not that there is anything wrong with that if that's what you do).

It really depends, everyone has their own perception of attractiveness. I like alternative colored hair, tattoos, etc. I have a fondness for hippies and goths. For me, the people that I'm most interested in have absolutely no interest in me. No self-respecting hippie / goth would bother with a pretty conservative black guy. The hippies are generally happy with whatever I give them; the goths are generally stuck on themselves. All that being said, in the 2-3 years that I've been doing the SB thing, I've discussed pricing with about 40-50% of the people before they fucked me. When we meet, it is an actual date. We go to a real restaurant and talk about what we have in common and then if it progresses further than that then we move on. About half of the time, they ask about money and I tell them $300; no one has ever turned it down. The other times, we just fucked and they expected some sort of compensation. Only 1. 5 have ever complained after the fact. One I gave $350 and she was angry and offended (okay, she was beyond pissed) and wanted me to give her $600. I didn't. The other told me repeatedly she wanted $225 and I gave it to her and then she claimed asked for $275. I didn't argue, I gave her the $50 and then she said she couldn't trust me because I tried to short her. I then showed her the texts with $225, but she still told me I doctored them to get out of paying her $50. I then realized she was too stupid to fuck.

Judging from some of reports from people here, I'm probably more of a traditional SD. I'm not looking for the longest cheapest fuck in the most holes that I can find. I'm looking more for someone that pretends to give a fuck about me, makes me smile when I'm having a bad day and that is much more attractive than I normally could get without paying. I don't mind spending more for that. I do have my limits, but for me, $250-300 is usually the starting point, with $400-450 being the absolute maximum. Of course, I spend money on them outside of our meetings. I buy them inexpensive gifts, help them with a bill or two if they need it and of course take them out when we meet up (oh, I pay for the hotel room, someone mentioned that to me recently). For me, it's worth it and I can afford it. So, I may be one of those guys that is driving the price up, but I get what I consider to be quality SBs and I'm happy.

[AsaMona22]

I usually discss the details of the arrangement in person.

You'll probably see a few different answers. The fine details change, but the common key to success is to be able to walk away. Tell them what you want and what you are willing to do for an allowence. If they balk, move on. If you have trouble spotting the pros or want to be pros, they will be focused on maximizing money and minimizing time spent with you.

My current drives over an hour to get to my place, spends at least the evening (dinner to bedtime) and will sleep over if she's tired. We meet at least once a week, and I do give her 300 becuase of the drive. Otherwise it would be 200 to 250 per week allowence. She's young (25), cute, in shape, and loves to fuck.

I've asked this in the past. But I know escorts and SBs are different. What I'm worried about is having them know where you work and live. Or if she gets preggers (if you're hitting raw) or doxx you?

I've read enough where some people invite them to their homes or hotels? I guess it depends on how to gage if she's mental or not. Idk still learning.

[Fantasy Man J]

SA is a buyer's market right now. Since Sunday evening, I've noticed all kinds of gals logging in. Even those that haven't been on for months. Christmas is over, bills, rent are due. Unemployment is running out, tuition is due soon. Stick to your guns and keep allowances low and benefits high! Happy hunting.

I have gotten a few on deck within the last couple days that are of quite high quality. An aspiring actress without going to LA. Life is good!

[Anonymous420]

Just curious, and I'm sure this has been hashed out. How exactly do you find girls for 300 that are attractive. Admittedly, I usually go for a younger age than most people here (under 25), but for me it's hard to break out of the 300-500 range. Obviously there's always people who want more. Usually if they want under 300 they are either:

1. Very new.

2. AA.

3. Obvious physical issues.

Do you usually wait until meeting to bring up money? I do it over text which may make it harder. Also I guess I don't prioritize the "best deal" over everything else (not that there is anything wrong with that if that's what you do).

I usually discss the details of the arrangement in person.

You'll probably see a few different answers. The fine details change, but the common key to success is to be able to walk away. Tell them what you want and what you are willing to do for an allowence. If they balk, move on. If you have trouble spotting the pros or want to be pros, they will be focused on maximizing money and minimizing time spent with you.

My current drives over an hour to get to my place, spends at least the evening (dinner to bedtime) and will sleep over if she's tired. We meet at least once a week, and I do give her 300 becuase of the drive. Otherwise it would be 200 to 250 per week allowence. She's young (25), cute, in shape, and loves to fuck.

[Fantasy Man J]

Do you put a lot of effort into your profile on SA? Mine has one pretty shitty photo of me with my head cropped off. And probably two sentences or so as a bio.

Also do you invest a lot of time in texting them?

I usually text them off and on for half a day or so and then if they don't want to meet up next them, maybe coming back later if I'm bored.

Overall I'm alright looks wise, but I feel like my profile could be a lot better.

It's never really seemed to be a problem but maybe it's "raising the price" for me.

To be honest not really. Your message has a lot more power. I think there's so many fakes and scammers that if you show enough human they will respond to you.

With regards to texting, I don't prioritize SBs over my day to day. SBs have schedules themselves and that's one of the first things I ask about to find appropriate windows to discuss.

[DrtyHarry]

SA is a buyer's market right now. Since Sunday evening, I've noticed all kinds of gals logging in. Even those that haven't been on for months. Christmas is over, bills, rent are due. Unemployment is running out, tuition is due soon. Stick to your guns and keep allowances low and benefits high! Happy hunting.

Yeah it has been this way for a few months. But you are right. There has been a sharp increase since the new year. It is good and bad.

[Toomgis]

SA is a buyer's market right now. Since Sunday evening, I've noticed all kinds of gals logging in. Even those that haven't been on for months. Christmas is over, bills, rent are due. Unemployment is running out, tuition is due soon. Stick to your guns and keep allowances low and benefits high! Happy hunting.

[MrPumpNDump]

My go to demographic is young and new. The 18-24 range do not quite know the value of money and to them 300 is a lot. Stand firm and use prior arrangements as negotiating chip. Inquire on what they are seeking but just ignore it once they reply and move on to other discussions. Once time comes close to actually meet, I then layout what I am willing to do and negotiate. When you discuss allowance too early, they can balk at your offer and move on without feeling any time wasted. Keep them engaged for a little while and you are more likely to achieve success. Also don't put all your eggs in one basket as I am sure you aren't the only SD they are speaking to. I have three smoking hot dimes SBs but still contacting new ones in an effort to replace or upgrade my stable.

Do you put a lot of effort into your profile on SA? Mine has one pretty shitty photo of me with my head cropped off. And probably two sentences or so as a bio.

Also do you invest a lot of time in texting them?

I usually text them off and on for half a day or so and then if they don't want to meet up next them, maybe coming back later if I'm bored.

Overall I'm alright looks wise, but I feel like my profile could be a lot better.

It's never really seemed to be a problem but maybe it's "raising the price" for me.