Seeking Arrangement

[GuyDetroit]

Should have known when I got her down to 250, wants 100 up front. Claims she just wants to get her hair done to look nice for me lol

https://www.seeking.com/member/7854b...5-f95207ef65fd

[JohnGeste]

Pretty funny. I went to that link and looked at her profile. She must have gotten a notification and now she's texting me. You should have someine setup a meet and greet for her. Meet at Meijer. Tell her its paid. When she gets there confront her about it. Probably will end that scam in a hurry. MM686.

I briefly thought about getting her back. I'd bet that I could text her next week from the same google number, send her a photo of someone else, and she'd go for the same deal. But. As Kenny advised, "you've got to know when to to fold them".

[DMichael5]

Duh. She got me. I know, I know, you don't have to tell me what I did wrong. She met me in the parlor of her apartment building to show me where to park (danger Will Robinson) - then as we're walking up to her apartment door she says she wants the $200 up front as agreed (big head is on idle now), then she's just going to pop over to the neighbors to get some weed. As soon as she was out of my sight I figured I was SOL- and I was. I'm a lot smarter now though. https://www.seeking.com/member/5dcbd...4-c3196fb511c5.

Thanks for the warning. She came on pretty aggressively with the messages. Gave me a weird phone number, we texted a few times and she seemed a bit off, so I just bailed.

[MichiganMan686]

Duh. She got me. I know, I know, you don't have to tell me what I did wrong. She met me in the parlor of her apartment building to show me where to park (danger Will Robinson) - then as we're walking up to her apartment door she says she wants the $200 up front as agreed (big head is on idle now), then she's just going to pop over to the neighbors to get some weed. As soon as she was out of my sight I figured I was SOL- and I was. I'm a lot smarter now though. https://www.seeking.com/member/5dcbd...4-c3196fb511c5.

Pretty funny. I went to that link and looked at her profile. She must have gotten a notification and now she's texting me. You should have someine setup a meet and greet for her. Meet at Meijer. Tell her its paid. When she gets there confront her about it. Probably will end that scam in a hurry. MM686.

[JohnGeste]

Stop by from time to time. Trusted Seniors who have provided info to me can PM me.

This is Michigan, not Georgia.

[ComTech42]

Stop by from time to time. Trusted Seniors who have provided info to me can PM me.

[JohnGeste]

Duh. She got me. I know, I know, you don't have to tell me what I did wrong. She met me in the parlor of her apartment building to show me where to park (danger Will Robinson) - then as we're walking up to her apartment door she says she wants the $200 up front as agreed (big head is on idle now), then she's just going to pop over to the neighbors to get some weed. As soon as she was out of my sight I figured I was SOL- and I was. I'm a lot smarter now though. https://www.seeking.com/member/5dcbd...4-c3196fb511c5.

[Gyxser70]

When I heavily used SA a couple years ago I used to ask girls about this. The impression I got is that for every one real sugar daddy offering lucrative allowances, there are ten scammers or super cheap guys (less than $200). The next tier are weirdos with money, who scare chicks off. Multiple chicks I saw or talked to literally showed me messages from guys asking them to shit on their chest, or for super violent bdsm stuff. I'm sure there are women willing to do anything for money on the site but most are pretty normal young women or college chicks. They aren't interested in that stuff.

The next tier, which I resided in, was normal guys who offered PPM. That's the tier of guys that does well on SA, especially if you can be consistent. If you're meeting a chick 2-3 times a month at $300-500 per meet, that's as close to an allowance as most chicks will get. In my case, the highest I went was $500 with two chicks who I saw for months. They even stayed over night for that amount. My other arrangements were $300 to $400 and involved multi hour meets.

I've posted SA guides multiple times but basically if you're a normal guy with good hygiene, you're already better than most of the guys these chicks talk to on the site. Getting a nice hotel, having snacks+food etc ensures you'll get what you want every time. Make her comfortable. That's the key.

I'd say we're pretty similar. I'm a very normal guy and not into anything creepy or gross. Most of the POT that I've talked to are brand new to sugaring and haven't made their rounds like a cat to get their share of experiences by being on the site for a little bit of time. My type is the mid 20 something who has an ok to good job and doesn't need to be on the site, but the extra $ helps.

I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been talking to 3-5 girls at once thinking one of them for sure will be a match and then a few days later I'm talking to 3-5 new people all over again. I always operate in a way that a person feels free. If I never hear from them again, it is what it is.

I'm not upset that she didn't want to continue things, it's just that in her message she almost made it sound like I had conned her since I didn't pay her for meeting the very first time.

[Jay23]

Me being not white, don't know how FKK clubs will treat you. One spot I want to go to next year is the Dominican Republic, their is a large forum https://takemebacktososua.com/forum/ and on my list http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/index.html.

Is Costa Rica a mongering location, its more for Yoga but the country is safe and has very good healthcare but hay I found https://forum.costaricaticas.com/

Don't forget Germany FKKs, damn I miss those slender gazelles walking around naked and me sitting in the pool chairs relaxing and re-energizing for the next round.

I am eyeing Thailand also. Cute tiny spinners, great nightlife, parties, massages, etc.

I have been to a few South American countries but never ventured out for mongering. Is it safe down there? I have heard lot of fun can be had in Costa Rica. Anybody has first hand experience in Costa Rica?

Hope we can start traveling soon. I am getting bored of the heavy effort requirements on SA and getting run arounds LOL.

[JadooMazar]

I put all my SA expenses on a separate CC. With all the girls it has been an overnight stay usually Sat night. Looking back at this year (I have been only doing this since summer) I am averaging around $550 a night spent on the girl, but If I count other expenses such as hotel, dinner, drinks, first date dinner expenses, etc, I am around 1000 a date. Around 12 K spent for 12 good Sat nights in 2020. Yes, it's an expensive hobby but I am a 50-year-old with a beer belly who likes cute 25-year-olds, plus my ex took all most 500 K in the divorce so this spend is ok.

Not going to do this once I get the vaccine, better value for money can be found in Canada, South America, or Caribian.

Don't forget Germany FKKs, damn I miss those slender gazelles walking around naked and me sitting in the pool chairs relaxing and re-energizing for the next round.

I am eyeing Thailand also. Cute tiny spinners, great nightlife, parties, massages, etc.

I have been to a few South American countries but never ventured out for mongering. Is it safe down there? I have heard lot of fun can be had in Costa Rica. Anybody has first hand experience in Costa Rica?

Hope we can start traveling soon. I am getting bored of the heavy effort requirements on SA and getting run arounds LOL.

[Jay23]

I was married for 13 years and been single for 5 years. 95% of my friends are married and all of them have been trying to set me up with some nice divorced women in the 50's range. I have 2 points.

1. If you lock up a dog in a cage for 13 years and let him out, he will never be going near that cage again.

2. (And I only tell this to men), Have you played with 25-year-olds boobs.

The old saying is Marriage is grand and Divorce is 500 grand. Fuck being married. That's torture. Divorced too lost a ton but worth every penny to be single. MM686.

[TheBro]

Lots of good posts recently on these issues. Another thing I'd say is that I looked for different things from short term and long term SBs. For the short term girls, who I'd see casually a few times, I tried finding the hottest young chicks. Whether it was a college girl or a stripper, those were the chicks I would fuck and not really talk to until it was time to meet again. We'd have fun, fuck, cuddle, laugh and then move on until next time. If you're lucky you can find one like this, who isn't asking for money in between meets because her phone bill is late or whatever.

For long term, those were the girls I saw overnight. We would text relatively often and became genuine friends with one of them (we still text today despite her moving out of state). For those I was just looking for someone with their head on straight. Preferably a serious student or young professional, with their background verified on the site. No drama, no begging for money, and appreciative. Also helped that one was studying a field I'm in so we had mutual things to talk about and I was able to help / mentor her. I prioritized stability / intelligence over being hot with these girls. They weren't as hot as the short term girls I saw but were still cute of course.

[MichiganMan686]

I put all my SA expenses on a separate CC. With all the girls it has been an overnight stay usually Sat night. Looking back at this year (I have been only doing this since summer) I am averaging around $550 a night spent on the girl, but If I count other expenses such as hotel, dinner, drinks, first date dinner expenses, etc, I am around 1000 a date. Around 12 K spent for 12 good Sat nights in 2020. Yes, it's an expensive hobby but I am a 50-year-old with a beer belly who likes cute 25-year-olds, plus my ex took all most 500 K in the divorce so this spend is ok.

Not going to do this once I get the vaccine, better value for money can be found in Canada, South America, or Caribian.

The old sayin is Marriage is grand and Divorce is 500 grand. Fuck being married. Thats torture. Divorced too lost a ton but worth every penny to be single. MM686.

[SpartanJoe]

Two completely different girls in the photos. One has brown eyes and one has green eyes.

Hilarious. She said she wasn't meeting folks now because of all the scammers. Wanted to Facetime so I just ignored her and moved on to the next one. Sadly I'm back on there as my current SB (deactivated account a long time ago) is moving down south for school. Said she'd still like to see me when she comes back to visit family. As someone mentioned, don't go for the ones that constantly complain about being broke or look like train wrecks. Of the few long term ones I've had, they're stable for the most part but just want some extra cash. Don't be rude initially or offer $100 for a weekend of fun. Anyone asking to "prove your worth it" is a waste of time as well. Never spent more than a couple hundred per meet and they ranged from hours to overnights. Anyone asking for $2 k+, I wish them well as they're more than likely on the wrong site. Anyone that messages me first, I also ignore. If I was interested, I would have messaged you already.

[Jay23]

I put all my SA expenses on a separate CC. With all the girls it has been an overnight stay usually Sat night. Looking back at this year (I have been only doing this since summer) I am averaging around $550 a night spent on the girl, but If I count other expenses such as hotel, dinner, drinks, first date dinner expenses, etc, I am around 1000 a date. Around 12 K spent for 12 good Sat nights in 2020. Yes, it's an expensive hobby but I am a 50-year-old with a beer belly who likes cute 25-year-olds, plus my ex took all most 500 K in the divorce so this spend is ok.

Not going to do this once I get the vaccine, better value for money can be found in Canada, South America, or Caribian.

The next tier, which I resided in, was normal guys who offered PPM. That's the tier of guys that does well on SA, especially if you can be consistent. If you're meeting a chick 2-3 times a month at $300-500 per meet, that's as close to an allowance as most chicks will get. In my case, the highest I went was $500 with two chicks who I saw for months. They even stayed over night for that amount. My other arrangements were $300 to $400 and involved multi hour meets.