Non Pro's

[DrtyHarry]

Meals and drinks I'm fine with. It's the entry fee to the game sometimes. But we should all draw the line and handing over cash without services being provided.

Sorry to hear that some of you Bro's have gone down this rabbit hole! But lets set the record straight. You should never ever pay these girls for a M&G. You pay for services rendered. No service = no money. As a public service announcement if you are in the habit of doing this. Please STOP immediately. The thought of paying someone to just have dinner is absolutely absurd. I have had a few SB's try this. I told them not a chance in hell! Yes I will take you out to eat but allowance starts after we move to an intimate level

+ 1 . I have not, but would be open to. Time permitting. To have a dinner and drinks with a lady with the caveat that after that we head over to a room I have booked. But I would NEVER pay just for a M&G. I have been asked a lot of times and my main response back is - 'as mentioned in my profile. I am extremely busy and do this just to blow off steam. I do not usually do wine and dine as I just cannot get a slot of 3-4 hrs of free time to do a M&G and then proceed to a room. So if the real intent of this is for safety. I am willing to meet you somewhere public for a quick cup of coffee. After we are satisfied we can proceed to the room I have booked close by. Does that work for you love? Let me know. '.

This always works for me. The ones that do not agree, are probably not genuine, and I do not want to meet them anyway. Anyone serious about making some cash for a visit, will usually take this offer. One more thing, I usually build a rapport with the woman before inviting to see her. 1-2 days of texting. So she already realises that I am well spoken, well educated, only here for sex but am willing to be a regular if there is chemistry and will respect all of her boundaries and finally that I am not a chump. The last one is hardest. You need to have a fine balance between being firm and yet flexible to suggestions. I give her the impression that I am interested but will not bend my rules to see her. I. e. I am willing to walk away.

[Maximus V]

Generally $50 to $100 is fair, depending on the exact situation.

With covid most of my M&Gs have been grabbing lattes and talking in my car, and I think $50 is extremely generous for that.

I know some guys disagree, but I like M&Gs because it lets me filter out the Shamoos and chicks who are excessively and possibly dangerously psycho. Also, I find that a lot of girls chicken out if for the first date they need to go to a hotel and knock on the door of some dude they haven't met.

Sorry to hear that some of you Bro's have gone down this rabbit hole! But lets set the record straight. You should never ever pay these girls for a M&G. You pay for services rendered. No service = no money. As a public service announcement if you are in the habit of doing this. Please STOP immediately. The thought of paying someone to just have dinner is absolutely absurd. I have had a few SB's try this. I told them not a chance in hell! Yes I will take you out to eat but allowance starts after we move to an intimate level.

[Morgan Creamin]

That's always my concern that it's just a scam to get free meals and cash for first dates. We need to post these girls pictures so it stops working for them.

Meals and drinks I'm fine with. It's the entry fee to the game sometimes. But we should all draw the line and handing over cash without services being provided.

[Latinxi69]

She's very thin and brunette on SA she blocked me before I could cap her picture.

Scammer for sure 469 * 2278.

[Marko Ramius]

That's always my concern that it's just a scam to get free meals and cash for first dates. We need to post these girls pictures so it stops working for them.

I suppose that can happen, but unless a girl shows an outrageous amount of industry (which none of these girls I've ever met have shown) she'd make more money as a temp and probably eat healthier in the bargain.

Most of these girls are what I'd call "main chance" girls, and they are after what they consider the most money for the least amount of effort. Finding one guy and banging him once or twice a week for a few hundred bucks and maybe getting some shopping out of it once in a while is what most of them consider a decent deal. The effort of scheduling m&gs with enough guys to make as much as you'd make in a couple of fuck sessions makes doing that less than appealing to most of these girls. Also there seem to be a lot more chicks than dudes on those sites and the market is at least a little bit competitive.

For the record, I never do more than one m&g with any given girl, regardless of the terms.

With all SBs, their virtue is more negotiable when the rent or their cell phone bill is past due. And especially so if their baby daddy misses a support check.

[Latinxi69]

Watch out for scammers. I did m&g with a girl who live in Bothell. We meet up for coffee and I give her some money. She said she like to meet again then I schedule for a second meet up and don't heard from her again. I have posted her username on the forum.

That's always my concern that it's just a scam to get free meals and cash for first dates. We need to post these girls pictures so it stops working for them.

[MrLarryDong]

For PPM, I usually do $300-350/ meet. If they are regulars, I usually have them set up an Amazon Wish List with inexpensive items and send at least 1 item to them from their Wish List each week. I've rarely had anyone turn that down.

I'm pretty picky with looks, the women I've been with are all definitely hot (in my opinion) and are all people that wouldn't give me the time of day if I wasn't paying (and I'm not a bad looking brother either). That being said, I'm into artsy, hippyish looking women (blue or purple hair, tattoos, goths), so I may be finding women that traditional guys don't find attractive. I don't pay for fat, so they all are skinny to a little thick and have beautiful faces. If they have that generic mixed race / stripper look that many guys seem to like, I don't find that attractive at all and ignore them. The 18-22 YOs have really high expectations. I try to avoid them, but let them know what I'm willing to pay and in many cases they will contact me a few weeks after we discuss allowance and accept the $300-350 (once they find out they won't get better). Lastly, my profile is upfront and I state that I don't waste money on frivolous shit. So I'm definitely NOT going to buy them I-Phones or take them designer clothes shopping, but will help them out with rent, school or other necessities if needed, so I may not be getting the true gold-diggers.

Nice, thanks for the feedback. It makes sense since its seems like 350-500 is about the sweet spot for the hot girls. I have a couple right now who won't go under 400 so ill try that out and see how it goes.

[BedRock01]

What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.

Watch out for scammers. I did m&g with a girl who live in Bothell. We meet up for coffee and I give her some money. She said she like to meet again then I schedule for a second meet up and don't heard from her again. I have posted her username on the forum.

[Latinxi69]

Hey all does anyone have experience with Sophia the sexy maid on SA?

Details appreciated.

[Diver6390]

What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.

In the distant past, years BC (before Covid), I would try to do M&G with a potential SB. It would typically be coffee at Starbucks or a lunch. For lunch, I would be out $50, but I would get a meal out of it also. I am not sure that I would shell out $50 just for the chance to meet a girl face to face. Sure as hell would not shell out $100.

[Morgan Creamin]

What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.

I'm fine with M&G but I won't pay for one.

[Marko Ramius]

What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.

Generally $50 to $100 is fair, depending on the exact situation.

With covid most of my M&Gs have been grabbing lattes and talking in my car, and I think $50 is extremely generous for that.

I know some guys disagree, but I like M&Gs because it lets me filter out the Shamoos and chicks who are excessively and possibly dangerously psycho. Also, I find that a lot of girls chicken out if for the first date they need to go to a hotel and knock on the door of some dude they haven't met.

[Latinxi69]

What are your guys opinion of and experience with paying for a M&G? I don't mean sending money up front that is never a good idea but there is a SB I'm really interested in that wants 100 for the M&G.

[Michael1967]

Hey guys,

Been checking this thread for about 6 months now and now have finally decided to make a SA account. I had to add my a pic of my face (which I consider to take down everyday due to paranoia) and that really made a difference. I'm just a relatively handsome POC so I'm shocked that I've been getting so many responses.

I opened the account last week and with my first 3 ladies I talked to, I went for coffee with one girl. It went really well but since then its been hard to get them on text. I get its a game and it involves getting them comfortable to talk about PPM but I feel like most girls (at the least the younger ones) don't understand the game and want a prince charming with 1000 PPM and shopping, dinner and drinks as well. So a question to you guys about that, is this common? I have a somewhat canned response to the girls that basically gets to the point of what I want (strictly sexual hangouts) and when I do, most girls just ghost, which is fine, doesn't hurt my feelings. But its starting to get overwhelming gaming girls down on chat only to start talking about PPM and then go radio silent.

Once we talk about PPM I say 200-300 which I seems like the standard from what I've been reading here but women apparently aren't biting on that. So another question is, how hot are these girls that you guys are paying 200 PPM for? So far all the girls I've been talking about are hot and young (under 30). Its fine if you guys never pay more than that but let's all be honest and say they're either old, fat or just not hot. Totally fine if that floats your boat, but so far I don't think the hot girls are taking that amount. I only have a week doing this and have been pretty aggressive with messaging girls that view me (not even favorites me) but I'm going to calm down a bit as its somewhat overwhelming. In a good way.

Will say though, fuck TNA. There's so many girls on this site that now when I look on TNA I get bored of seeing the same mediocre women. With SA, your in control and have so many options. SA feels like a mix of tinder and TNA, the only catch is $$ Definitely try it out if you're on the fence.

For PPM, I usually do $300-350/ meet. If they are regulars, I usually have them set up an Amazon Wish List with inexpensive items and send at least 1 item to them from their Wish List each week. I've rarely had anyone turn that down.

I'm pretty picky with looks, the women I've been with are all definitely hot (in my opinion) and are all people that wouldn't give me the time of day if I wasn't paying (and I'm not a bad looking brother either). That being said, I'm into artsy, hippyish looking women (blue or purple hair, tattoos, goths), so I may be finding women that traditional guys don't find attractive. I don't pay for fat, so they all are skinny to a little thick and have beautiful faces. If they have that generic mixed race / stripper look that many guys seem to like, I don't find that attractive at all and ignore them. The 18-22 YOs have really high expectations. I try to avoid them, but let them know what I'm willing to pay and in many cases they will contact me a few weeks after we discuss allowance and accept the $300-350 (once they find out they won't get better). Lastly, my profile is upfront and I state that I don't waste money on frivolous shit. So I'm definitely NOT going to buy them I-Phones or take them designer clothes shopping, but will help them out with rent, school or other necessities if needed, so I may not be getting the true gold-diggers.

[MrLarryDong]

Hey guys,

Been checking this thread for about 6 months now and now have finally decided to make a SA account. I had to add my a pic of my face (which I consider to take down everyday due to paranoia) and that really made a difference. I'm just a relatively handsome POC so I'm shocked that I've been getting so many responses.

I opened the account last week and with my first 3 ladies I talked to, I went for coffee with one girl. It went really well but since then its been hard to get them on text. I get its a game and it involves getting them comfortable to talk about PPM but I feel like most girls (at the least the younger ones) don't understand the game and want a prince charming with 1000 PPM and shopping, dinner and drinks as well. So a question to you guys about that, is this common? I have a somewhat canned response to the girls that basically gets to the point of what I want (strictly sexual hangouts) and when I do, most girls just ghost, which is fine, doesn't hurt my feelings. But its starting to get overwhelming gaming girls down on chat only to start talking about PPM and then go radio silent.

Once we talk about PPM I say 200-300 which I seems like the standard from what I've been reading here but women apparently aren't biting on that. So another question is, how hot are these girls that you guys are paying 200 PPM for? So far all the girls I've been talking about are hot and young (under 30). Its fine if you guys never pay more than that but let's all be honest and say they're either old, fat or just not hot. Totally fine if that floats your boat, but so far I don't think the hot girls are taking that amount. I only have a week doing this and have been pretty aggressive with messaging girls that view me (not even favorites me) but I'm going to calm down a bit as its somewhat overwhelming. In a good way.

Will say though, fuck TNA. There's so many girls on this site that now when I look on TNA I get bored of seeing the same mediocre women. With SA, your in control and have so many options. SA feels like a mix of tinder and TNA, the only catch is $$ Definitely try it out if you're on the fence.