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**Dimples572** · 11-18-20 13:36

Originally Posted by Skins755 [View Original Post]

Dimples,

Your inbox is full.

Skins.

My bad, its cleared out now.

**Skins755** · 11-18-20 13:00

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

Anyone have any experience with her? We've got something tentatively set up for tomorrow, just curious if there's any details anyone can share before I take the plunge. Thanks.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8e42c...4-8a6ef012b4e5

Dimples,

Your inbox is full.

Skins.

**Lobsid** · 11-18-20 12:56

I'm not a cheapskate I normally agree to the girls offer, and I'm good about telling that I do give gifts. If she a keeper I do follow through. Most of the girls who ghost just chicken out, or they are trying to scam me.

Originally Posted by MadeYoulLook29 [View Original Post]

That maybe the reason gents are being ghosted by SB's is because you're being cheapskates LOL. The SD is (suppose to be) a rich person looking to spoil the SB. Not simply a guy looking to basically bust a nut with a hot chick. The experience is suppose to go deeper than that. The SD is suppose to get off on exposing the SB to the finer things in life and caring for the SB. Its no wonder when the SB sees guys trying to essentially set up a escort type exchange they stop responding. They arent escorts.

**Shinshi** · 11-18-20 12:23

Originally Posted by MadeYoulLook29 [View Original Post]

That maybe the reason gents are being ghosted by SB's is because you're being cheapskates LOL. The SD is (suppose to be) a rich person looking to spoil the SB. Not simply a guy looking to basically bust a nut with a hot chick. The experience is suppose to go deeper than that. The SD is suppose to get off on exposing the SB to the finer things in life and caring for the SB. Its no wonder when the SB sees guys trying to essentially set up a escort type exchange they stop responding. They arent escorts.

With respect, you couldn't be more mistaken. It's true most SBs often do not think of themselves as hookers for a myriad of reasons. Some think that a SD taking them out on dates, meals, shopping trips, etc makes the relationship somehow different than that of a professional escort. Some think that by having other employment outside the sugaring scene makes them unique compared to an escort. But here's the cold-hard truth: whether you sell your body full-time (escort), or part-time (SB), both still fall under the moniker of "hooker" whether they admit it or not. Period. There's no getting around, nor debating this. If you look up the definition of a hooker, it simply says prostitute. And the definition of a prostitute is "a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment. " Sound familiar?

Now before you counter with the argument that there's women on Seeking who want only platonic arrangements, I'll wager my annual paycheck that they're not finding anywhere near as much success as the ones who aren't looking for platonic. Seriously, what SD / john (also interchangeable in my book) in their right mind would spend hundreds--if not thousands--on a platonic relationship when they could have a sexual one? I mean, why else would you sign up for that site AND be looking for intel on these forums? It makes no sense whatsoever. All that being said, I'm not an idiot: if a SB wants to avoid that label, I'm perfectly fine with humoring a her fantasy so long as she fulfills mine. Win-win.

I believe the majority of us can agree that most real SBs (not counting bots of course) are either semi-pro or amateurs, yes? It is precisely the market to whom Seeking caters. So explain to me how an amateur ought to charge more for their services than a professional? I've used this example a couple times in the past and I'll repeat it again: you would NOT pay the same amount--or more--for a rinkside ticket to watch minor league ice hockey as you would for that same type of ticket to watch a professional / NHL team play, would you? And before you say it's not the same thing, yes, yes it is! Personally, I'm not paying some random SB (amateur) who's only selling her body part-time anywhere near the same amount that I'd pay for CJ Miles or Vina Sky (professional porn stars). The former has little to no experience, and the latter clearly does this for a living! So that's not being a cheapskate. That's common-fucking-sense and not being wasteful with your hard-earned money.

Honestly, I'm not trying to be too harsh on you. It just drives me nuts observing the staggering number of folks who's outlook mirrors yours, all while simultaneously propping these women on some higher pedestal. You really shouldn't! The point of this forum is to spread awareness and have a great time with a woman while avoiding unnecessarily exorbitant rates. In any case, I sincerely wish everyone the best in their search for a good time while not breaking the piggy bank (or savings) too often. Cheers.

**MadeYoulLook29** · 11-18-20 12:22

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

SD's should be getting off on being exposed to finer things and taking care of the sDs needs, not looking to mechanically fuck her way through the crowd seeking a bigger pay off over time. They arent' supposed to act like escorts.

But basically what we have is a bunch of cheap ***** mongers fucking a bunch of ****** in a bidding war

Those who dont approach it that way MIGHT be lucky enough to find their corollary, but odds are against it with so many Pros ruiing it on one end and so many mongers tainting it on the other...

The sexual equivalent of the Tragedy of the Commons

Yes this is the problem. Escorts / pros posing as SB's and John's posing as SD's. The good thing is these pretenders often give themselves away when they start discussing hourly rates...

**Ernest Ll** · 11-18-20 11:58

Originally Posted by MadeYoulLook29 [View Original Post]

That maybe the reason gents are being ghosted by SB's is because you're being cheapskates LOL. The SD is (suppose to be) a rich person looking to spoil the SB. Not simply a guy looking to basically bust a nut with a hot chick. The experience is suppose to go deeper than that. The SD is suppose to get off on exposing the SB to the finer things in life and caring for the SB. Its no wonder when the SB sees guys trying to essentially set up a escort type exchange they stop responding. They arent escorts.

SD's should be getting off on being exposed to finer things and taking care of the sDs needs, not looking to mechanically fuck her way through the crowd seeking a bigger pay off over time. They arent' supposed to act like escorts.

But basically what we have is a bunch of cheap ***** mongers fucking a bunch of ****** in a bidding war

Those who dont approach it that way MIGHT be lucky enough to find their corollary, but odds are against it with so many Pros ruiing it on one end and so many mongers tainting it on the other...

The sexual equivalent of the Tragedy of the Commons

**MadeYoulLook29** · 11-18-20 11:17

That maybe the reason gents are being ghosted by SB's is because you're being cheapskates LOL. The SD is (suppose to be) a rich person looking to spoil the SB. Not simply a guy looking to basically bust a nut with a hot chick. The experience is suppose to go deeper than that. The SD is suppose to get off on exposing the SB to the finer things in life and caring for the SB. Its no wonder when the SB sees guys trying to essentially set up a escort type exchange they stop responding. They arent escorts.

**AdcFellow** · 11-18-20 10:03

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

Anyone have any experience with her? We've got something tentatively set up for tomorrow, just curious if there's any details anyone can share before I take the plunge. Thanks.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8e42c...4-8a6ef012b4e5

She is the real deal. Semi pro, but with a great body and a good attitude. I had a great time with her.

**MadeYoulLook29** · 11-18-20 08:09

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

Why should we anticipate / expect a higher rate? Your logic doesn't make any sense. We are the ones that dictate the market / rates, not the SB's so you "expecting a higher rate" is your own fault.

I'm operating under what a SD actually is (or suppose to be). A older wealthy male seeking out younger women in financial need. It seems most of you want escorts. A SB has the financial need and the SD being the big baller that he is is suppose to be able to meet that need.

**Dimples572** · 11-17-20 22:14

Originally Posted by MadeYoulLook29 [View Original Post]

Well that goes back to what I was saying though. Being a SD is a different game than being a John. The SB comes into the arrangement expecting to be spoiled and pampered and in return they return the favor. Seems some folks just want a escort. Which is fine and good but why complain about expensive SBs. You should go into the arrangement with the expectation of the higher rate. A true SD sees what he wants and so long as she's the real deal. He's going to seal the deal.

Why should we anticipate / expect a higher rate? Your logic doesn't make any sense. We are the ones that dictate the market / rates, not the SB's so you "expecting a higher rate" is your own fault.

**MadeYoulLook29** · 11-17-20 20:55

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

Some guys are fake, and can't really afford to be a SD. Other guys are married, and have a hard time hiding the funds from their wife. Some guys like me have multiple SBs, so they need to stretch out their funds. Why paid a higher prices for one SB, if you can get 2 for the same price. A lot of would be SBs are not on the site because of fear of coronavirus. Remember a lot of college girls are at home with their parents taking online classes. The girls that are willing to meetup are in higher demand. Like any product for sale, it's a supplies and demand issue.

Well that goes back to what I was saying though. Being a SD is a different game than being a John. The SB comes into the arrangement expecting to be spoiled and pampered and in return they return the favor. Seems some folks just want a escort. Which is fine and good but why complain about expensive SBs. You should go into the arrangement with the expectation of the higher rate. A true SD sees what he wants and so long as she's the real deal. He's going to seal the deal.

**FreeSpirit369** · 11-17-20 19:52

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

90% of the girls who msg you are fake, scammers, selling pics, or want a nonphysical relationship. The credit card is ok, if you don't act like a idiot on the site. A lot of the guys say stupid things on the site, and get ban often. SA can't allow blatant prostitution on their site, so you need to watch what you say. That's why I never talk money till I get the girl to my burner number.

Thanks for the clarification.

**Lobsid** · 11-17-20 19:46

Some guys are fake, and can't really afford to be a SD. Other guys are married, and have a hard time hiding the funds from their wife. Some guys like me have multiple SBs, so they need to stretch out their funds. Why paid a higher prices for one SB, if you can get 2 for the same price. A lot of would be SBs are not on the site because of fear of coronavirus. Remember a lot of college girls are at home with their parents taking online classes. The girls that are willing to meetup are in higher demand. Like any product for sale, it's a supplies and demand issue.

Originally Posted by MadeYoulLook29 [View Original Post]

I see folks complaining about how pricey sugar babies are but also wanting a non pro. From my experience sugar babies are going to want more and sugar daddy has it to spend. Seems some folks want it both ways a sugar baby's personal experience at a escort rate.

**MadeYoulLook29** · 11-17-20 19:27

I see folks complaining about how pricey sugar babies are but also wanting a non pro. From my experience sugar babies are going to want more and sugar daddy has it to spend. Seems some folks want it both ways a sugar baby's personal experience at a escort rate.

**InSearch69** · 11-17-20 19:26

She is real. But pictures are better than in person. I think she has lost weight recently. She does try to rush you though so no hours of fun.

Originally Posted by Grasshopping [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/b6004...7-a7a28a0250c2

She was quoting me 600 for BBFS. Way too much for me. I asked her how much for CFS and how long would we be together for. Cricket after that. She probably thinks I'm too cheap and a waste of time LOL. She looks hot but sorry, not worth 600 for me.