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[Morgan Creamin]

Does anyone have any success with these cuties? I've been talking with each of them, but so far no set-ups. Anyone else have any info?

Hey man, no intel but posting the screencaps was a good idea. SA can be a pretty slow to load pages but I was able to go through the attached pics pretty quickly to determine if I could help or not.

[TheNovelist]

Does anyone have any success with these cuties? I've been talking with each of them, but so far no set-ups. Anyone else have any info?

Bellamoon548
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa8b4...6-e7ec2e6ee8e5

OhCarmen
https://www.seeking.com/member/c6f38...0-c0c7a0ddbe02

Alexxisbabyy13
https://www.seeking.com/member/ca6d3...b-10f03407f8b8.

Amazing_grace1
https://www.seeking.com/member/5857f...b-6b0e0b78305e

Aly_aly_aly.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e2f4e...1-6aac90f0d2b4

Earthyangel
https://www.seeking.com/member/f79e3...5-e816536f7413

PNW Magic
https://www.seeking.com/member/4488a...5-23fe24a8e9df


Wondering if I should keep trying or give up. I bet they get a ton of messages.

[AK6571]

She blocked me so I can't link. She messaged about an arrangement, mentioned she's in florida for a month and asked if that was a dealbreaker. I said I wasn't into online but would happily discuss a meet when she got back. Insta-blocked me.

This is her profile - https://www.seeking.com/member/e47e3...8-f0910c3da0e9.

[Morgan Creamin]

She blocked me so I can't link. She messaged about an arrangement, mentioned she's in florida for a month and asked if that was a dealbreaker. I said I wasn't into online but would happily discuss a meet when she got back. Insta-blocked me.

[Morgan Creamin]

I had reinstated my account for less than 5 in before I got a favorite from someone in Bogota.

[Member #6726]

I have had that issue a few will work do not get them from Walmart as for some reason those didn't work.

Try Safeway, CVS, Riteaide or similar, look for prepaid visa 100.00 often it will have a saying on the front like "A gift for you", I actually only get those as I know they work.

I've found that you need to register the card. Just use a fake address in Seattle. Then use that address when you're on SA. And give it time between registering and using the card on SA.

[BrstMan]

I have tried using the grocery store prepaid MasterCards and Visas, but they did not work for me. Apparently, SA uses a foreign payment processor. Can you tell us how to create a virtual card? Which website do you use?

I have had that issue a few will work do not get them from Walmart as for some reason those didn't work.

Try Safeway, CVS, Riteaide or similar, look for prepaid visa 100.00 often it will have a saying on the front like "A gift for you", I actually only get those as I know they work.

[Spacehog]

I have tried using the grocery store prepaid MasterCards and Visas, but they did not work for me. Apparently, SA uses a foreign payment processor. Can you tell us how to create a virtual card? Which website do you use?

I went to https://privacy.com/.

You hook it up through your checking account.

[Diver6390]

Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt.

I try to not even do that. For most of my past arrangements, I try to meet the person first. I am a bit older, so I don't need to play right away, I can wait a day or two to arrange a proper play date after the meet-and-greet. 1. That way, I can see that the person is someone that I would actually want a play date with. And 2. There is no paper or electronic trail of me offering anything.

The exception is if the lady in question initiates the monetary conversation, then I will carry on, but even then try to stay away from what I want to do during a play date, much less even negotiations around BB anything.

The meet-and-greet, if it goes well, and we seem to dig each other, will usually end with me saying, "Well, this is great, and I would love to see you again in a more intimate setting. What are you looking for from a transactional arrangement?" That's when we get into the discussion on dollars and hosting arrangements. Just seem simpler and cleaner that way.

I learned the hard way to try to do a meet-and-greet first to see about mutual attraction. One of my first encounter in the SB world had good looking pictures, but artistically shot. When she walked into my hotel room, yes, it's the same woman, but who ever said the cameral ADDED 10 pounds lied. Her camera SUBTRACTED at least 30 pounds. But she was there, so I completed the deed. Her sob story convinced me to give her a more than generous allowance for the meet. But after that, I try to meet every SB personally before the play date.

There are other exceptions, like when I would meet someone while on business travel. In those cases, some of the details will need to be hammered out beforehand. But even then, we would meet either for drinks or dinner before play. That way, either party could back out, and worst case, she gets a nice meal out of the M&G.

[Pooner05]

Yes. She's also texting me wanting to meet right away. She's not legit, but I've been playing along. Yesterday, I told her let's meet some place and go to a hotel. She couldn't give me her approximate location and then eventually said that she'd rather just drive out to see me. She also sent me photos of two obviously different people. I'll keep on her and let you know if something happens. If she is legit (I doubt it), the pictures of girls that she is texting me are really cute.

Yeah I agree the girls hot. Seems super fake and aggro but part of me wishes it's real LOL.

[RichardQ]

The Site has gotten clever, I have hidden my VPN but you cannot change it to another country the site auto blocks you. I made a virtual Credit card where you can put any name and address you want on it, and made new e-mail addresses, the only thing I have not done is change my phone number which I think is the last part of the puzzle. For a site that charges $90 they are really hardcore on this crap

I have tried using the grocery store prepaid MasterCards and Visas, but they did not work for me. Apparently, SA uses a foreign payment processor. Can you tell us how to create a virtual card? Which website do you use?

[Michael1967]

Hey guys. No longer on sa but this girl keeps texting me (I assume off sa or maybe a previous escort). I only have the phone number and she has sent a few photos and a video clip but I don't know if she's legit. Unsure the best way to ask for intel so apologies if I over share details.

Her number is 206*6352.

Yes. She's also texting me wanting to meet right away. She's not legit, but I've been playing along. Yesterday, I told her let's meet some place and go to a hotel. She couldn't give me her approximate location and then eventually said that she'd rather just drive out to see me. She also sent me photos of two obviously different people. I'll keep on her and let you know if something happens. If she is legit (I doubt it), the pictures of girls that she is texting me are really cute.

[Pooner05]

Hey guys. No longer on sa but this girl keeps texting me (I assume off sa or maybe a previous escort). I only have the phone number and she has sent a few photos and a video clip but I don't know if she's legit. Unsure the best way to ask for intel so apologies if I over share details.

Her number is 206*6352.

[Spacehog]

Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. If there is too much back and forth I just leave her a message that I don't think we are a good fit and ban her ass. That has worked pretty well for me. I actually have 2-3 different canned opening statements that are to the point but do not give any direct details. Just imply that I am not going to take them shopping or wine or dine them. That sets the stage. A lot of them ignore this initial messge. The ones that make it past this phase. Almost all convert over to texting knowing that I am only there to fuck for money. I have no interest in doing the shit they would expect their husbands or boyfrineds to. Sorry you got banned. I am sure you have tried the onion browser (TOR) or a VPN. Neither of those allowed you to create another profile?

The Site has gotten clever, I have hidden my VPN but you cannot change it to another country the site auto blocks you. I made a virtual Credit card where you can put any name and address you want on it, and made new e-mail addresses, the only thing I have not done is change my phone number which I think is the last part of the puzzle. For a site that charges $90 they are really hardcore on this crap.

[Marko Ramius]

Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. If there is too much back and forth I just leave her a message that I don't think we are a good fit and ban her ass. That has worked pretty well for me. I actually have 2-3 different canned opening statements that are to the point but do not give any direct details. Just imply that I am not going to take them shopping or wine or dine them. That sets the stage. A lot of them ignore this initial messge. The ones that make it past this phase. Almost all convert over to texting knowing that I am only there to fuck for money. I have no interest in doing the shit they would expect their husbands or boyfrineds to. Sorry you got banned. I am sure you have tried the onion browser (TOR) or a VPN. Neither of those allowed you to create another profile?

TOR or a VPN don't always work to get back on SA. I have moved on to SB and it works fine.

Yes, you need to get them over to text before you actually start negotiating, especially on SA. My usual approach is to let them talk about their problems and what and why they need money for, both because it makes me seem sympathetic and because its lets me gauge how deep a hole they are in. If they sound too generic or the hole sounds too deep or too weird I usually bail at that point. Otherwise I put an offer on the table, as it were.

I usually prefer to meet them face-to-face someplace public (e. G. Starbuck's) for a short meet-and-greet before getting to the sticky stuff. That lets me screen out ones that are too weird or too unlike their pictures (I met two who appeared pleasantly thick on their profile but were in fact enormously obese -- one at a half-dozen pastries in the fifteen minutes we met before I could escape). Usually about two thirds convert.

For me, repeatedly emphasizing that you are extremely busy (that is the truth) and have very little spare time also is an effective screen. That lets me keep the initial M&Gs very short (fifteen minutes unless I decide I am *very* interested). Once I've kind of scoped out the girl and patiently listened to her troubles I usually just lay it out there:

Me: Okay, it sounds like I can help you out.

Her: Yes!

Me: So I am staying at the Hilton Garden Inn in _XXXXX_ tonight. You can come by this evening and we can spend some private time together and get acquainted. I think $X00 is fair, although if you want to spend more time together a higher number is acceptable.

Her: Sounds good! What time?

Me: 8 pm is fine.

Depending on the girl and what conversations have gone on before I might get a lot more explicit. Especially if the girl is older and has been on SB for a while I am a lot more likely to be very explicit.