The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[Ral613]

Not with her or anyone else. If her goal is really to find something / or someone ongoing, there is an investment in time / effort from both parties up front.

Would you do 2 bills for a M&G with Eve MoneyPenny. She claims she does not meet for less than 2 bills. I declined.

https://www.seeking.com/member/770dd...3-83d2aef77f8f

[SmallAsianCock]

Would you do 2 bills for a M&G with Eve MoneyPenny. She claims she does not meet for less than 2 bills. I declined.

https://www.seeking.com/member/770dd...3-83d2aef77f8f

[Pubb69]

Someone on here said this " NEWS FLASH. If you are on an internet site looking for money from men / women and offering no services other than yourself than yes you are a hooker. ". And I loved it.

That was me. Thanks.

[SmallAsianCock]

Mistake that many make is they think these women like them and it isn't about the money and they somehow have formed a relationship with them no matter how abnormal it may be. Doesn't matter the age, it's always about money. If you think otherwise ask them to spend 10 minutes with you without getting paid. Sugar baby, Escort, it's all the same.

It's called prostitution and it's a pay to play game.

Someone on here said this " NEWS FLASH. If you are on an internet site looking for money from men / women and offering no services other than yourself than yes you are a hooker. ". And I loved it.

[Pubb69]

How did you reach the conclusion that most are motivated by greed?

Most of us tend to only look at this from our side of the deal and think "geez, she's crazy if she thinks she's worth $X", but you really don't know how she arrived at that number. It could be greed of course, but it could be past experiences. From what some SBs told me, a lot of the initial messages they get are variations of "hey show me your nude photos and how much to f*.

And whether some SB is worth $X is between the SB and the SD. Some of you seem to prefer 18-22 y/o that work out daily. I favor MILFs in their 30's and 40's who tend to be super sexy and aren't so focused on the money aspect so they're more likely to be genuine.

Mistake that many make is they think these women like them and it isn't about the money and they somehow have formed a relationship with them no matter how abnormal it may be. Doesn't matter the age, it's always about money. If you think otherwise ask them to spend 10 minutes with you without getting paid. Sugar baby, Escort, it's all the same.

It's called prostitution and it's a pay to play game.

[LikesGirls]

I think it comes down to what motivates them to be on there. Some feel it's a necessity but that's a lower percentage from my experience, most are motivated by greed and will push the envelope as high as they can as long as they find takers.

How did you reach the conclusion that most are motivated by greed?

Most of us tend to only look at this from our side of the deal and think "geez, she's crazy if she thinks she's worth $X", but you really don't know how she arrived at that number. It could be greed of course, but it could be past experiences. From what some SBs told me, a lot of the initial messages they get are variations of "hey show me your nude photos and how much to f*.

And whether some SB is worth $X is between the SB and the SD. Some of you seem to prefer 18-22 y/o that work out daily. I favor MILFs in their 30's and 40's who tend to be super sexy and aren't so focused on the money aspect so they're more likely to be genuine.

[OrangeLover]

In my experience, I've found that I can avoid the greedy women by focusing heavily on conversation before we meet. The greedy ones don't care about you or getting to know you. And I don't pursue women who aren't interested in thought provoking and interesting conversation. Also, a lot of those 'I want handbags and gucci shoes' women are dumb as rocks and don't have any unique thoughts in their head. So they eliminate themselves for me.

To add to this I recently had a girl who was asking about $$$ and I told her I would rather talk about that when we meet for a coffee, we exchanged numbers she texted me and started calling me. Got scared and blocked her. Probably scam but you never know. Blocked her on SA too so no links sorry name is Lovinglife2020.

[OrangeLover]

In my experience, I've found that I can avoid the greedy women by focusing heavily on conversation before we meet. The greedy ones don't care about you or getting to know you. And I don't pursue women who aren't interested in thought provoking and interesting conversation. Also, a lot of those 'I want handbags and gucci shoes' women are dumb as rocks and don't have any unique thoughts in their head. So they eliminate themselves for me.

I agree with Professor, I try to avoid who wants to talk about money online before M&G never had good experience before, especially ones that uses $$$ for allowance.

[DJprofessorK]

I think it comes down to what motivates them to be on there. Some feel it's a necessity but that's a lower percentage from my experience, most are motivated by greed and will push the envelope as high as they can as long as they find takers.

In my experience, I've found that I can avoid the greedy women by focusing heavily on conversation before we meet. The greedy ones don't care about you or getting to know you. And I don't pursue women who aren't interested in thought provoking and interesting conversation. Also, a lot of those 'I want handbags and gucci shoes' women are dumb as rocks and don't have any unique thoughts in their head. So they eliminate themselves for me.

[Pubb69]

Call it the "Asshole Tax".

To piggyback the previous couple of comments / discussions:

1.) Yeah. Some are just there looking for one "whale" that'll pay a ridiculous amount no matter what the dude looks like or acts like.

2.) Sure. Some throw out a number to see if they can get a bite OR, honestly, some are new and have no idea what the actual "going rate" is depending on their looks, attitude, ability to host / availability, etc. So, sometimes it's them truly being naive. (Or, one dude paid it, so they assume everyone will).

3.) Pick YOUR number and stick to it. Again, depending on the looks, experience you are looking for, etc.

Be patient and wait for the right opportunity. If you absolutely have to have an "experience" that day or week, go hit an AMP or professional, and keep hunting.

I think it comes down to what motivates them to be on there. Some feel it's a necessity but that's a lower percentage from my experience, most are motivated by greed and will push the envelope as high as they can as long as they find takers.

[VincentCor74]

Absolutely valid. If you're rude, abrasive, unpleasant, or just plain gross, you should expect to make it worth it for her. I'll be the first to say that I've met some unreasonable women on SA with expectations that have made me laugh in their face, however, if I'm being honest. A good portion of those women went that route because too often men were terrible to them. If you plan on being an A-hole to her, and you know if you are, let's be honest, you should pay a premium.

Call it the "Asshole Tax".

To piggyback the previous couple of comments / discussions:

1.) Yeah. Some are just there looking for one "whale" that'll pay a ridiculous amount no matter what the dude looks like or acts like.

2.) Sure. Some throw out a number to see if they can get a bite OR, honestly, some are new and have no idea what the actual "going rate" is depending on their looks, attitude, ability to host / availability, etc. So, sometimes it's them truly being naive. (Or, one dude paid it, so they assume everyone will).

3.) Pick YOUR number and stick to it. Again, depending on the looks, experience you are looking for, etc.

Be patient and wait for the right opportunity. If you absolutely have to have an "experience" that day or week, go hit an AMP or professional, and keep hunting.

[DJprofessorK]

I think determining what's fair / worth is difficult. It's not just what you want to pay for a girl that looks a certain way, but also what would a girl want as compensation to have sex with you?

Absolutely valid. If you're rude, abrasive, unpleasant, or just plain gross, you should expect to make it worth it for her. I'll be the first to say that I've met some unreasonable women on SA with expectations that have made me laugh in their face, however, if I'm being honest. A good portion of those women went that route because too often men were terrible to them. If you plan on being an A-hole to her, and you know if you are, let's be honest, you should pay a premium.

[LikesGirls]

It's very easy to quickly figure out who is serious and who is just fishing for a sucker. I don't think the ladies who ask insane amounts actually think they are worth it, I think they are just trying to see if they can find someone with more money than brains. IMO the ones who are serious about meeting are willing to meet in the $$ range.

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I think determining what's fair / worth is difficult. It's not just what you want to pay for a girl that looks a certain way, but also what would a girl want as compensation to have sex with you?

[OrangeLover]

I've been a long time lurker for gotten back into the game. I've had a great luck finding a good one which I wouldn't want to share atm. But here are some of the findings that I think it is a possibility for you guys. I always ask for 2 to 3 hours and not be a clock watcher. And I have some other leads that I am working on as well.

NCnikki.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15378...5-bce4c9b7b784

Gotten straight to the point wanted $400 didn't wanted to even bargain but I get the feeling that she might come down.

Sugardaisy789.

https://www.seeking.com/member/bc760...e-bb3938302b1a

Was ready for a M&G but I found someone else so didn't partake but was one of my first one to find when I started back wanted $300 I was going to talk her down on a M&G but haven't had a chance.

Izzy904.

https://www.seeking.com/member/576a4...7-f6d1752fb96c

Was eager to meet. Seemed either semi-pro, haven't discussed amount but gave me a number right off the bat asked to see right away. I got scared and walked away.

Have 2 more M&G tomorrow and Saturday I will report back as soon as I can.

Happy Hunting.

[RTPDude]

It's very easy to quickly figure out who is serious and who is just fishing for a sucker. I don't think the ladies who ask insane amounts actually think they are worth it, I think they are just trying to see if they can find someone with more money than brains. IMO the ones who are serious about meeting are willing to meet in the $$ range.

Another one wanting 5 bills. WTF? I really hope there are not guys out there fueling this GSP.

Remember that's how 3 bills started. Guys started paying it now chicks think that number is the low end starting point.