Sugar Babies & Arrangements

**AceKingQueen** · 12-26-20 17:29

Originally Posted by PerfectPitch [View Original Post]

Looks to me like below the belt you might encounter a cock!

Exactly what I felt when I saw profile pics.

**PerfectPitch** · 12-26-20 10:32

Originally Posted by Je2010 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/ec5a3...4-1c9ffd42bacb

For the low amount of $$ she will give you a massage, but no touching her below the belt.

According to her, she is very busy..

Looks to me like below the belt you might encounter a cock!

**LovesToParty** · 12-26-20 07:58

She's not looking for a Sugar Daddy. She's looking for an ATM machine. I moved on.

Originally Posted by PerfectPitch [View Original Post]

She looks great. But wants 700! I don't think so!

https://www.seeking.com/member/e9f2e...e-c09e7e982718

**PerfectPitch** · 12-25-20 09:41

She looks great. But wants 700! I don't think so!

https://www.seeking.com/member/e9f2e...e-c09e7e982718

**Je2010** · 12-17-20 12:27

https://www.seeking.com/member/ec5a3...4-1c9ffd42bacb

For the low amount of $$ she will give you a massage, but no touching her below the belt.

According to her, she is very busy..

**Cajon Trombone** · 10-18-20 19:53

Originally Posted by LA1215 [View Original Post]

Good point! How to cancel is crucial and the method to stop a subscription can be hard to find and tricky. That applies to "dating" web sites and some other subscription sites as well. I found it best to locate and copy the cancellation procedure BEFORE starting the subscription.

The only "dating" site that I found that did NOT have robot profiles is eHarmony. It takes soooo long to get a few contacts there, but they are real people. I suppose that is why they had to advertise on TV.

Let me say that SD/SB sites are not necessarily any better, just that there are more (a higher percentage of) actual human initial contacts with men because of the stated nature of the site and the golddiggers, catfishers, etc. working those sites. Other types of sites have them, too.

I know nothing about Tinder or Baloo.

LA1215

The ones that I have tried are a huge waste of time and energy. I gave up on all of them.

**FarFarAway** · 10-18-20 16:12

Originally Posted by LA1215 [View Original Post]

Good point! How to cancel is crucial and the method to stop a subscription can be hard to find and tricky. That applies to "dating" web sites and some other subscription sites as well. I found it best to locate and copy the cancellation procedure BEFORE starting the subscription.

The only "dating" site that I found that did NOT have robot profiles is eHarmony. It takes soooo long to get a few contacts there, but they are real people. I suppose that is why they had to advertise on TV.

Let me say that SD/SB sites are not necessarily any better, just that there are more (a higher percentage of) actual human initial contacts with men because of the stated nature of the site and the golddiggers, catfishers, etc. working those sites. Other types of sites have them, too.

I know nothing about Tinder or Baloo.

LA1215

This is why the best approach for paying for membership is to use a prepaid debit card that has only a little more $ on it than the fee. Even if they don't have a way to cancel the recurring membership, when they retry he charge for the next month, it can't go through. On SA, where I have much experience, it isn't crucial, they actually do have a procedure to stop auto-renew.

**LA1215** · 10-18-20 15:58

Originally Posted by ChaseStar [View Original Post]

That's really interesting about it being "openly" admitted right there in the fine print. Tbh, I've never actually studied the fine print closely enough to pick up on that. To the extent I have studied the fine print it is to find the terms for what happens when the "free" trial membership runs out (iow, turns into a ridiculously expensive recurring membership) and how hard they make it to cancel (e. G. By hiding where you need to go to cancel in the fine print). And, in those regards, what I've found is the SB / SD sites are typically even worse than the already very bad dating sites.

But, in regards to fake or even automated (aka bot) profiles, what is so interesting is not that they exist (something we all already knew) but that, albeit while burying that admission in the TOS, they admit it all. Now, that being said, what makes you think that a lack of such an admission means that these other sites are any less guilty of following that practice? IMHE, whenever I've signed on to a SB/SD site, I immediately get messages even before I've entered any profile or uploaded any photo of myself. So they ALL do it and I don't think anyone can authoritatively say how much more one does it vs another. If anything, IMHO the SB / SD sites are even worse when it comes to bots but I'll admit I don't have any statistics to back that up.

Where I absolutely agree that the unstated ulterior motives for such tactics is to con would-be subscribers into believing it'd be worth paying for full access. But again here I disagree with your contention that SB / SD sites are any better. Case in point, at least on sites like Tinder or Baloo you can read and reply to messages others sen without having send you without having to sign up for a trial or paid membership and you can also post your social media addresses or see theirs so you can take it off site if you want to. Not the case on any of the SB / SD sites where you can't even read let alone reply w / o paying up.

Third (or 4th?) and last point, the automated bot accounts set up by the sites themselves are just one source of the clutter you have to sort through. Arguably its relatively minor compared to all the 3rd party scammers that those platforms allow on their sites for the same reasons they create their bots. Profiles of attractive women (fake or not) attract guys to join. If the SB / SD sites have a higher percentage of those 3rd party scammers because of the very nature of sugar dating, (something I still might question) how is that a good thing?

Good point! How to cancel is crucial and the method to stop a subscription can be hard to find and tricky. That applies to "dating" web sites and some other subscription sites as well. I found it best to locate and copy the cancellation procedure BEFORE starting the subscription.

The only "dating" site that I found that did NOT have robot profiles is eHarmony. It takes soooo long to get a few contacts there, but they are real people. I suppose that is why they had to advertise on TV.

Let me say that SD/SB sites are not necessarily any better, just that there are more (a higher percentage of) actual human initial contacts with men because of the stated nature of the site and the golddiggers, catfishers, etc. working those sites. Other types of sites have them, too.

I know nothing about Tinder or Baloo.

LA1215

**Chase Star** · 10-18-20 13:40

Originally Posted by LA1215 [View Original Post]

... Most of those dating sites ... have automated profiles that will contact you. Automated profiles are one way of saying robots. Fake listings. Bait.

The point is to dangle the bait in front of you to get you to spend money, and more money....As it turns out, MOST of the contacts males receive when visiting such sites are these nobodies they refer to as automated profile. Regardless of the name that they give it, the scam seems like bait and switch....

In the case of sugar babies, there are more actual humans because of gold diggers and the like.
Shady doin's of all kinds going on.

That's really interesting about it being "openly" admitted right there in the fine print. Tbh, I've never actually studied the fine print closely enough to pick up on that. To the extent I have studied the fine print it is to find the terms for what happens when the "free" trial membership runs out (iow, turns into a ridiculously expensive recurring membership) and how hard they make it to cancel (e. G. By hiding where you need to go to cancel in the fine print). And, in those regards, what I've found is the SB / SD sites are typically even worse than the already very bad dating sites.

But, in regards to fake or even automated (aka bot) profiles, what is so interesting is not that they exist (something we all already knew) but that, albeit while burying that admission in the TOS, they admit it all. Now, that being said, what makes you think that a lack of such an admission means that these other sites are any less guilty of following that practice? IMHE, whenever I've signed on to a SB / SD site, I immediately get messages even before I've entered any profile or uploaded any photo of myself. So they ALL do it and I don't think anyone can authoritatively say how much more one does it vs another. If anything, IMHO the SB / SD sites are even worse when it comes to bots but I'll admit I don't have any statistics to back that up.

Where I absolutely agree that the unstated ulterior motives for such tactics is to con would-be subscribers into believing it'd be worth paying for full access. But again here I disagree with your contention that SB / SD sites are any better. Case in point, at least on sites like Tinder or Baloo you can read and reply to messages others sen without having send you without having to sign up for a trial or paid membership and you can also post your social media addresses or see theirs so you can take it off site if you want to. Not the case on any of the SB / SD sites where you can't even read let alone reply w / o paying up.

Third (or 4th?) and last point, the automated bot accounts set up by the sites themselves are just one source of the clutter you have to sort through. Arguably its relatively minor compared to all the 3rd party scammers that those platforms allow on their sites for the same reasons they create their bots. Profiles of attractive women (fake or not) attract guys to join. If the SB / SD sites have a higher percentage of those 3rd party scammers because of the very nature of sugar dating, (something I still might question) how is that a good thing?

**Je2010** · 10-12-20 22:09

https://www.seeking.com/member/15fab...9-a14d20d0faca

Anyone ser her?

**Tattoo47** · 09-29-20 18:18

Originally Posted by LA1215 [View Original Post]

I used to spend a lot of time on regular dating sites. After a while I read the legalese that flashes past while signing up. Most of those dating sites (not eHarmony) has fine print that says that they have automated profiles that will contact you. Automated profiles are one way of saying robots. Fake listings. Bait.

The point is to dangle the bait in front of you to get you to spend money, and more money. Some automated profiles are completely computerized (automated) and others are partially human guided. Nevertheless, NONE of them will actually meet with you.

As it turns out, MOST of the contacts males receive when visiting such sites are these nobodies they refer to as automated profile. Regardless of the name that they give it, the scam seems like bait and switch.

That is why I completely quit this sort of site in general.

In the case of sugar babies, there are more actual humans because of gold diggers and the like.
Shady doin's of all kinds going on.

LA1215

I do agree with what you said. Gold diggers can also be called hookers on retainer.

**JeanGrey666** · 09-29-20 17:40

Originally Posted by LA1215 [View Original Post]

I used to spend a lot of time on regular dating sites. After a while I read the legalese that flashes past while signing up. Most of those dating sites (not eHarmony) has fine print that says that they have automated profiles that will contact you. Automated profiles are one way of saying robots. Fake listings. Bait.

The point is to dangle the bait in front of you to get you to spend money, and more money. Some automated profiles are completely computerized (automated) and others are partially human guided. Nevertheless, NONE of them will actually meet with you.

As it turns out, MOST of the contacts males receive when visiting such sites are these nobodies they refer to as automated profile. Regardless of the name that they give it, the scam seems like bait and switch.

That is why I completely quit this sort of site in general.

In the case of sugar babies, there are more actual humans because of gold diggers and the like.
Shady doin's of all kinds going on.

LA1215

Yep not surprise. I'm sure seeking and secret benefits have bots. But yeah after seeing a few escorts on there I know some of the girls are real. It pays to have that monger sight aka whoredar.

**LA1215** · 09-29-20 16:43

Originally Posted by Jeangrey666 [View Original Post]

After tiring of the druggie psychos in the escort and street walker game I signed up for secret benefits instead of seeking. I wasn't comfortable with the auto renewal on seeking but I should've just paid the one time fee. I've bought a ton of credits on secret benefits and those girls have been ghosting so much after a few messages I'm thinking scams, gps, or just modern womens dark triad psychology. Any one have any luck actually meeting girls on secret benefits? Oh yeah be wise a few escorts are hiding on there as sugar babies. Women are so sneaky and dishonest LOL!

I used to spend a lot of time on regular dating sites. After a while I read the legalese that flashes past while signing up. Most of those dating sites (not eHarmony) has fine print that says that they have automated profiles that will contact you. Automated profiles are one way of saying robots. Fake listings. Bait.

The point is to dangle the bait in front of you to get you to spend money, and more money. Some automated profiles are completely computerized (automated) and others are partially human guided. Nevertheless, NONE of them will actually meet with you.

As it turns out, MOST of the contacts males receive when visiting such sites are these nobodies they refer to as automated profile. Regardless of the name that they give it, the scam seems like bait and switch.

That is why I completely quit this sort of site in general.

In the case of sugar babies, there are more actual humans because of gold diggers and the like.
Shady doin's of all kinds going on.

LA1215

**JeanGrey666** · 09-29-20 10:29

Originally Posted by RobbinHoodz [View Original Post]

Seeking because all the other sites have "tokens" that you pay out to talk to individual girls. When you run out of tokens you have to buy more. Seeking is just a flat rate for time, so you can message 10 or 10,000 and it all costs the same.

After tiring of the druggie psychos in the escort and street walker game I signed up for secret benefits instead of seeking. I wasn't comfortable with the auto renewal on seeking but I should've just paid the one time fee. I've bought a ton of credits on secret benefits and those girls have been ghosting so much after a few messages I'm thinking scams, gps, or just modern womens dark triad psychology. Any one have any luck actually meeting girls on secret benefits? Oh yeah be wise a few escorts are hiding on there as sugar babies. Women are so sneaky and dishonest LOL!

**RobbinHoodz** · 09-24-20 08:45

Originally Posted by BeachFlyer69 [View Original Post]

Thanks, I was looking at Seeking and Secret Benefits. I"ll go with Seeking

Seeking because all the other sites have "tokens" that you pay out to talk to individual girls. When you run out of tokens you have to buy more. Seeking is just a flat rate for time, so you can message 10 or 10,000 and it all costs the same.