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  1. #5452

    Good times

    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    Many years ago Yoona aka Anica worked alongside with Pepsi at her 2 locations off Wilshire and she was a superstar back than? Cause she allowed BBFS Greek with cip and she was very busy. Than decided to go solo and that didn't workout and came back to PP for awhile than decided to go with another booker.

    I still see her from time to time cause since I was one of her regs she always remembered me and can get pretty much all 3 holes for creampies.

    Yes, she no longer looks like she does back in the day and now has the ajumma body that works at a Korean bbq place in ktown.
    Had the pleasure of a pepsi yoona 3 some in 2012. Good times!

  2. #5451

    You're right

    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    Don't forget white "lady" knights like Gina Galaxy the wannabe super mod and gnd looks and so-so body!
    She has terrible communication skills and then tries to flip it on you.

  3. #5450
    Quote Originally Posted by SteakTartare  [View Original Post]
    I avoid this scenario from ever happening to me because I have never visited an Asian agency, and never will. I am not attracted to Asian chicks, especially the ones who are middle-aged, and all the Asian agencies on HX are notorious for this bait-and-switch business model. I have read dozens and dozens of reports inside the private clubs to know that is the rule, not the exception, and I entered this hobby to fuck 18-22 yo chicks, not women who are older than me. Why would I pay for that when I can get that for free if I so desired?

    Steak.
    If you are not attracted to Asians, fair enough. But the best Asian houses don't take non Asians. More, Chinese and Korean go to the own houses. If they have to bait you with fake pictures 10 years younger, how good can they be? If you are a Chinese girl a quarter as good as being an internet model, you are not short of crazy rich clients. It's like many of the HX crews, everybody starts at 19. The K-girls in the good Chinese houses are also teen lookalikes. It is worthwhile to build relationships if you have a little extra money and time. Once I got into a new Chinese house. I had a line up. When I get out of the room into the downstairs living room, the manager showed me a Korean teen in a smashing dress. I have to turn her down because I just can't. My lesson is that I should have hung out there with her to wait for my resurrection. Some houses are setup like that with a bar downstairs. And / or I can ask for a timeout and come back later when I'm ready.

    You have to pay me $100 to walk 3 California blocks in OC. $20 for one. I don't even want to walk from the lift to the last room in the corridor of Westin. If I have morning wood I would like to walk my dog down the street, call someone who haven't checked out yet and put myself in her box. Other times I prime myself at the moment of arrival. Eliminate any variables and uncertainties. Get straight into it and get the best out of my time. They can take your dick picture if they want to. They can get your license plate no matter where you park if they really want to. You can park 5 blocks away, ride an Uber or the bus. Where does it end? The Asian houses basically just want to have something on new clients to avoid trouble makers. You are supposed to park inside the drive way in the suburbs. For apartments, in the visitor parking spaces. If you seems to have something to hide you are seen as potential trouble makers or LE. You will stop the whole crew from running smoothly. Everybody will be nervous affecting their performance. They may skip you or make you wait and see.

    It's not limited to Asian houses. I was parking across the road waiting for my MP girl to turn up to work in the morning. Soon a guy came up to check me out. Nobody walks on the sidewalk there. In the infamous 55/19 apartment, you are never given the lift code, forced to walk up 4 stories, and then all the way around the building. Lily started there 5 years ago. Her net worth is most likely over a million, probably a few.

    The purpose of a burner phone is having an untraceable number. But still they can put up fake towers and triangulate you. Any VOIP app that gives you a number is as good as a burner. Call through a VPN if you have to. Phones are encrypted by default protected by biometrics. You can only have my fingerprints on it if you get my phone, the same as a burner. The disadvantage of a burner is the existence of it. Somebody who knows you, if they ever see your burner phone lying around in the car, they will wonder why do you have a burner phone?

    The advantages of a smart phone are plenty. I can carry the burner at all times without anybody ever discovering it. I can be at the beach with my girlfriend and book an appointment when she is in the water. I can turn on the ability to receive calls whenever I wanted. I used to have a pimp who calls me if there is a new arrival. Recruiting from sugar sites and dating sites are too much for them. They just advertise $10,000 per week and it works. I have seen a few that had the potential. $100 a guy and the whole village comes to you. But you can only last for a few weeks tops. And I wait for my ATF to call me if I have no urgency to call her. Then she has to prove that she worths my time and money.

    As for separating business and pleasure. A few versions ago Android has the option to setup multiusers. There is a brickwall between users and nothing is mutually accessible. Contacts, pictures, any data. If I want to receive call from my AFT I have to forward the call to my personal number. If I'm on a mission I have to forward my personal calls to my virtual burner phone. This is less important now with biometrics. As soon as my phone leaves my hand it's locked. And it's unlocked as soon as I look at it. But still, the apps always display the caller's name as big as it can. I'm running out of estate agents, interior designers and store managers. But nobody calls nowadays, only text, great.

  4. #5449
    Troll, if you don't put me on ignore then don't complain about what I post


    Posts: 2977

    Op sec

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    I wonder where you were going? MP's, K / C houses, private apartments, never have problems. Only in Argentina a girl go through my wallet in front of me and she only took what she deserved because she stayed longer trying to lure me into an allnighter. May be it can happen for an HX indie with not much reputation in a motel. But still it's a professional suicide if they do what you expect.

    Nobody ever stole money from me. If you go to a desirable establishment, one wrong move and the girl will lose her job. If you go for a desirable girl, one wrong move and she will lose her business. It's totally not worth it for them.

    I always bring just enough money for 1 hr plus tips plus extra possible extra service. If I book half hr I might extend that but I rarely extend 1 hr appointments. If they steal so be it. There's not much to lose. And my money was never stolen.

    I always put the money on the table before I drop my pants. WTF should I put my money in my shoes instead of my pocket?

    What building security? If he's not in the crew he has nothing on you. And if they have any security they will have security cameras. And if anybody wants your face picture they will have it. They can put a camera in anything or just a pinhole in the wall. Nobody wears a baseball cap in CA that I notice. You just attract attention if you go into some building wearing a baseball hat with your head down. Are you a movie star?..
    I admire your penchant for operations security.

    It is rare that someone goes into such detail to avoid disclosure of the mongering.

    Rarer still is the person who does so on humaniplex, the LLC that never met an LE subpoena it did not like.

  5. #5448
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    I always bring just enough money for 1 hr plus tips plus extra possible extra service. If I book half hr I might extend that but I rarely extend 1 hr appointments. If they steal so be it. There's not much to lose. And my money was never stolen. I always put the money on the table before I drop my pants. WTF should I put my money in my shoes instead of my pocket?
    Agree with this. I don't have an actual wallet anymore, as everything is now digital. I have a leather phone jacket designed for my phone with 3 slot pockets for some cash, a few CC, and my gubment papers. If you are not bringing any extra money, then there is no need to surreptitiously hide cash in your shoes.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    A burner is so last decade. I have an untraceable 2nd number on my phone. And since iPhone 11, it's pointless to steal or keep your phone because no one can break the activation lock, not yet. The downside is, ladies look at all your labels and brands and perform according, consciously or unconsciously. Everybody, bookers included, use Google numbers. If you have a true burner phone that cost $15.
    Disagree with this. I don't shit in my backyard, and I don't mix business with pleasure. I have a burner phone that is a modern smartphone with an anonymous Google account, and everything on it is fake. It cannot be tied to my real life. I use my real phone for my business, and it is the phone I use for my career, my work, my family, and my personal life. There is nothing in there that ties it to my hobby. I don't even use it for porn or social media. It is 100% professional. You think you are smart doing a 2nd burner number on your real phone? Do you know how much digital footprint you created and stored in your device? It's all in there, and can easily be recovered by forensics.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    And if they have any security they will have security cameras. And if anybody wants your face picture they will have it. They can put a camera in anything or just a pinhole in the wall. Nobody wears a baseball cap in CA that I notice. You just attract attention if you go into some building wearing a baseball hat with your head down. Are you a movie star ?
    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    So, if le really wanted you they can take you out real easy! Just like Seattle bust several years ago.Just because you think you can hide wearing a baseball hat to cover your face is going to hide you? Better think again!
    Agree with this. Once LE has their sights on you, it is way too late. Nothing that you have done including wearing a MAGA baseball cap, at that point will protect you.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    I still don't understand what risk are you minimizing. Nobody uses their real numbers for booking. But if they want to they can have your license plate wherever you park. You only deter the casual criminals. And why would they want to dox you?The downside is, you are doing things that cost you more than they worth. You are not enjoying yourself that you should have.
    Disagree with this. He is actually enjoying himself in this hobby, and in order to do that, he is doing things he believes minimizes his risk, and not costing him anything at all. How is parking 3 blocks away and walking to the apartment going to cost him more than maybe a few quarters and spare change in his glove compartment? All of us could use a little more exercise. He is doing what makes him feel safer, and that translates to enjoying this hobby.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    What have you done to a girl who chase out of an AMP? It only happened once to me. I once went to a well discussed store front CAMP with an ultra low price, something like $30/ hr. It was rate at the time. I dropped $20 on the table and went out. My therapist wasn't the door. But she chased after me outside trying to embarasse me in a busy Asian strip mall. She kept following me until her colleague worried that the money was in the room. I shouldn't have gone cheap. But still that shouldn't have happened. The Chinese has a totally different style th an the LA Koreans. And it doesn't matter where you park. Say you out run them, hide, and come back for your car.
    I avoid this scenario from ever happening to me because I have never visited an Asian agency, and never will. I am not attracted to Asian chicks, especially the ones who are middle-aged, and all the Asian agencies on HX are notorious for this bait-and-switch business model. I have read dozens and dozens of reports inside the private clubs to know that is the rule, not the exception, and I entered this hobby to fuck 18-22 yo chicks, not women who are older than me. Why would I pay for that when I can get that for free if I so desired?

    Steak.

  6. #5447
    Quote Originally Posted by AhardLanding  [View Original Post]
    Last appointment was Saturday.

    Money in shoe. When girl wants more and goes through your pockets.

    Baseball hat is for the building security not in the room (obviously).

    Never had a girl chase you out an AMP? Lucky you. I'l continue to park my car a couple blocks away. Is there a downside? No.

    Go read the ROB board if you think this things can't happen.

    Don't use a burner? Congrats, the CORG's can post your personal information or blackmail you.

    We all take our chances. I minimize my risks with no downside to me. You take yours.
    I wonder where you were going? MP's, K / C houses, private apartments, never have problems. Only in Argentina a girl go through my wallet in front of me and she only took what she deserved because she stayed longer trying to lure me into an allnighter. May be it can happen for an HX indie with not much reputation in a motel. But still it's a professional suicide if they do what you expect.

    Nobody ever stole money from me. If you go to a desirable establishment, one wrong move and the girl will lose her job. If you go for a desirable girl, one wrong move and she will lose her business. It's totally not worth it for them.

    I always bring just enough money for 1 hr plus tips plus extra possible extra service. If I book half hr I might extend that but I rarely extend 1 hr appointments. If they steal so be it. There's not much to lose. And my money was never stolen.

    I always put the money on the table before I drop my pants. WTF should I put my money in my shoes instead of my pocket?

    What building security? If he's not in the crew he has nothing on you. And if they have any security they will have security cameras. And if anybody wants your face picture they will have it. They can put a camera in anything or just a pinhole in the wall. Nobody wears a baseball cap in CA that I notice. You just attract attention if you go into some building wearing a baseball hat with your head down. Are you a movie star?

    What have you done to a girl who chase out of an AMP? It only happened once to me. I once went to a well discussed store front CAMP with an ultra low price, something like $30/ hr. It was rate at the time. I dropped $20 on the table and went out. My therapist wasn't the door. But she chased after me outside trying to embarasse me in a busy Asian strip mall. She kept following me until her colleague worried that the money was in the room. I shouldn't have gone cheap. But still that shouldn't have happened. The Chinese has a totally different style than the LA Koreans. And it doesn't matter where you park. Say you out run them, hide, and come back for your car.

    A burner is so last decade. I have an untraceable 2nd number on my phone. And since iPhone 11, it's pointless to steal or keep your phone because no one can break the activation lock, not yet. The downside is, ladies look at all your labels and brands and perform according, consciously or unconsciously. Everybody, bookers included, use Google numbers. If you have a true burner phone that cost $15, they will wonder why you need a throwaway phone? So suspicious. The bigger problem is, you actually look like you are using a personal phone less than $300. That's not motivating. I actually came across a SW who still uses a mini USB phone. So cute. I can't help to recharge her phone because USB-C and lighting cables are all I have in the car.

    I still don't understand what risk are you minimizing. Nobody uses their real numbers for booking. But if they want to they can have your license plate wherever you park. You only deter the casual criminals. And why would they want to dox you?

    The downside is, you are doing things that cost you more than they worth. You are not enjoying yourself that you should have.

  7. #5446
    Quote Originally Posted by AhardLanding  [View Original Post]
    Last appointment was Saturday.

    Money in shoe. When girl wants more and goes through your pockets.

    Baseball hat is for the building security not in the room (obviously).

    Never had a girl chase you out an AMP? Lucky you. I'l continue to park my car a couple blocks away. Is there a downside? No.

    Go read the ROB board if you think this things can't happen.

    Don't use a burner? Congrats, the CORG's can post your personal information or blackmail you.

    We all take our chances. I minimize my risks with no downside to me. You take yours.
    So, if le really wanted you they can take you out real easy! Just like Seattle bust several years ago.

    They le already knew what apt # 's we're used and did surveilance on several on the apartment buildings and took pics of all guys leaving after there appointments and also took pics of the car they drove in with license plate! Also, after each pic of car they took with fella they ran there plates and got all the info on You (the monger)!

    Just because you think you can hide wearing a baseball hat to cover your face is going to hide you? Better think again!

  8. #5445
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    This is so fucking ridiculous. They can have 10 perfectly hidden cams in the room and can catch the veins on your cock.

    Successful criminals are professional and specialized. They are not going to suspend their well oiled operation and try something new all of a sudden. The same for you. You cannot be afraid of everything and try to eliminate ALL risks. That will get you nowhere.

    Even street walkers employ spotters. It could be grandmas walking their dog to teens on skates. If they don't see your car coming they can follow you back. It's easier than that. They can just setup cameras on a few parked cars at most and they know who's coming and going.

    And why put your money in your shoes? Give the girl a good laugh to break the ice? You have to pick your worse nightmare. It's too complicated to avoid being bait and switched, robbed, blackmail, busted by LE at the same time. Nobody is going to rob your money in your shoes if they have a reputation and / or that they have a few thousands gross for each girl each day.

    And I doubt when is the last time you made an appointment. Nowadays it's biometrics and extra voip numbers, universally accepted other than the most ameutor.

    No pros are hiding in the bathroom. The fall guy is always the girl in the apartment or hotel room. Bookers make great lengths to avoid being traced to the girl you are meeting.
    Last appointment was Saturday.

    Money in shoe. When girl wants more and goes through your pockets.

    Baseball hat is for the building security not in the room (obviously).

    Never had a girl chase you out an AMP? Lucky you. I'l continue to park my car a couple blocks away. Is there a downside? No.

    Go read the ROB board if you think this things can't happen.

    Don't use a burner? Congrats, the CORG's can post your personal information or blackmail you.

    We all take our chances. I minimize my risks with no downside to me. You take yours.

  9. #5444
    Quote Originally Posted by SteakTartare  [View Original Post]
    None taken.

    I did not enter this hobby to pay for 50+ year old Asian granny pussy. I won't even fuck them for free off Match or Tinder, but if you folks want to shell out $$$ for GILFs, be my guest. If you want to keep believing that the Asian chicks you fuck don't have pimps, or have passports and immigration papers that are not controlled and kept out of reach by bookers, then more power to you.

    And the security you speak off are heavily weighed towards these non-existent pimps who have collected considerable and admissible telemetry on you from the moment you parked your car at their incall, during your entire stay, all the way to when you finally drive off their apartment complex.

    Be careful when you fire a bullet. Sometimes, they ricochet back.

    Steak.
    Woah now. This is true for Corgs but kgirls are entirely different. With korgs there is no forced labor nor people riding in a container to get here. There aren't any cameras set up outside nor some underground dark criminal enterprise haha. It's independent contractors. Read between the lines about some busts. Who was behind it all? Mongers themselves just helping out. Forced labor doesn't walk around with 1 k shoes and 6 k bags haha. Forced labor lives out of a suitcase and travels every10 days across the world.

    As far as passports or documents held. Yes I've heard that a little but wouldn't you ask for someone's identification who you barely know and just loaned them a big chunk of money for them to get here and take pay of debts from their mistakes. They get anything back once they pay it off in a month. Some girls have run off without paying it back. They come here for a variety of reasons. Some to buy luxury goods and live out a rich life, some to support families, and some to take care of debt form stupid mistakes. They are normal people. No pimp like shadiness goes on behinds the scenes. Corgs, now that is a different story.

  10. #5443
    Quote Originally Posted by SteakTartare  [View Original Post]
    None taken.

    I did not enter this hobby to pay for 50+ year old Asian granny pussy. I won't even fuck them for free off Match or Tinder, but if you folks want to shell out $$$ for GILFs, be my guest. If you want to keep believing that the Asian chicks you fuck don't have pimps, or have passports and immigration papers that are not controlled and kept out of reach by bookers, then more power to you.

    And the security you speak off are heavily weighed towards these non-existent pimps who have collected considerable and admissible telemetry on you from the moment you parked your car at their incall, during your entire stay, all the way to when you finally drive off their apartment complex.

    Be careful when you fire a bullet. Sometimes, they ricochet back.

    Steak.
    When I said "I'll take the security of an agency. " I didn't mean that I think they're safe. I meant that I will put up with whatever safety measures they have in play. I have no illusions about the hobby. I know shit can go horribly wrong at anytime for whatever reason. We should all be vigilant.

  11. #5442

    While I generally agree

    Quote Originally Posted by OCpyro  [View Original Post]
    No offense, but I'll take an Asian agency over a lot of those girls you post. Girls who are either known drug users, have pimps, or have some mental issues. I think a couple are known robs also. I'll take the security of an agency over that any day.
    Not all "asian" agencies are created equally. K-agencies are completely different than C-orgs. I've always felt safest at k-agencies above all others including indies and other agencies. I've only visited one C-org and it felt sketch. I won't return.

  12. #5441

    False sense of security

    Quote Originally Posted by AhardLanding  [View Original Post]
    Park a block or so away, not right in front. Always wear a baseball hat. Don't look up (at the surveillance camera). Enjoy that you should be wearing a mask. Leave your wallet in the car. Bring in only the amount of money you have agreed on and consider putting the money in your shoe. Bring in only your password protected burner. If she ask for more money or bad vibes emerge, tell her in a good mood type of voice that you need to go to your car to get the money and don't look back. If hotel room, always go to bathroom and take a look in the closet to make sure no one else is there.
    This is so fucking ridiculous. They can have 10 perfectly hidden cams in the room and can catch the veins on your cock.

    Successful criminals are professional and specialized. They are not going to suspend their well oiled operation and try something new all of a sudden. The same for you. You cannot be afraid of everything and try to eliminate ALL risks. That will get you nowhere.

    Even street walkers employ spotters. It could be grandmas walking their dog to teens on skates. If they don't see your car coming they can follow you back. It's easier than that. They can just setup cameras on a few parked cars at most and they know who's coming and going.

    And why put your money in your shoes? Give the girl a good laugh to break the ice? You have to pick your worse nightmare. It's too complicated to avoid being bait and switched, robbed, blackmail, busted by LE at the same time. Nobody is going to rob your money in your shoes if they have a reputation and / or that they have a few thousands gross for each girl each day.

    And I doubt when is the last time you made an appointment. Nowadays it's biometrics and extra voip numbers, universally accepted other than the most ameutor.

    No pros are hiding in the bathroom. The fall guy is always the girl in the apartment or hotel room. Bookers make great lengths to avoid being traced to the girl you are meeting.

  13. #5440
    Quote Originally Posted by OCpyro  [View Original Post]
    No offense, but I'll take an Asian agency over a lot of those girls you post. Girls who are either known drug users, have pimps, or have some mental issues. I think a couple are known robs also. I'll take the security of an agency over that any day.
    In my opinion based on my decade or so in the hobby I'd think it's safe to say that a reviewed reputable Asian agency is much safer than a reviewed reputable indy girl. With an Indy girl you never really have any idea what's going on a pimp / boyfriend or drug use or any myriad of things that can result in a rip-off or rob can happen at any time. At least with an asian agency you know that there's a business person / leader that actually cares about getting and maintains a steady client flow and customer satisfaction so you're less likely for huge variations in the level of service. Of course there are exceptions to every rule I'm just speaking generally.

  14. #5439
    Quote Originally Posted by OCpyro  [View Original Post]
    No offense, but ...
    None taken.

    Quote Originally Posted by OCpyro  [View Original Post]
    I'll take an Asian agency over a lot of those girls you post. Girls who are either known drug users, have pimps, or have some mental issues. I think a couple are known robs also. I'll take the security of an agency over that any day.
    I did not enter this hobby to pay for 50+ year old Asian granny pussy. I won't even fuck them for free off Match or Tinder, but if you folks want to shell out $$$ for GILFs, be my guest. If you want to keep believing that the Asian chicks you fuck don't have pimps, or have passports and immigration papers that are not controlled and kept out of reach by bookers, then more power to you.

    And the security you speak off are heavily weighed towards these non-existent pimps who have collected considerable and admissible telemetry on you from the moment you parked your car at their incall, during your entire stay, all the way to when you finally drive off their apartment complex.

    Be careful when you fire a bullet. Sometimes, they ricochet back.

    Steak.

  15. #5438
    Quote Originally Posted by SteakTartare  [View Original Post]
    I have never visited any Asian agencies in my life and never will, but you folks who are addicted to them should listen to this dude. He is spot on and knows what he is talking about, a sure sign of an experienced monger. A lot of what he said below also applies to non-Asian incall appointments.

    Mongering is like boxing. Always put your hands up. Always protect yourself. If you don't, expect a very hard landing indeed.

    Steak.
    No offense, but I'll take an Asian agency over a lot of those girls you post. Girls who are either known drug users, have pimps, or have some mental issues. I think a couple are known robs also. I'll take the security of an agency over that any day.

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