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  1. #10016
    Quote Originally Posted by AllTheTime  [View Original Post]
    No cities like this kind of business, if for no other reason than much of the money is under the table, so the city loses out on tax benefits. And forget constitutional challenges. That's now dead (constitution is what Supreme Court says it is). Strip clubs per se won't be banned, but expect non stop efforts. Particularly, but not exclusively, down here - (often using liquor licenses as the wedge) to attack lap dances and even nudity. Glad I got to have some fun, post divorce, back in the day!
    Or did everybody get a lot of shit on their hands now that need extra money to get from somewhere because they can't cover it, went to businesses like strip clubs to ask for a loan, and they didn't fork over the money? Just something to think about. It's not about losing tax benefits with these places, it's about not being forked over a loan when the city is in trouble with something huge. I could see that, and the club should not be liable for anything on one hand. This is more of a fuck you to the owners of Follies for not helping the city out with a loan they needed than more of a hey we have to shut you guys down we are sorry kind of thing. On the other hand, as much as I hate to say this too, I think the owners of Follies should've complied. Some times you have to help out who lets you run your business in a big way. It's called returning the favor.

  2. #10015

    Will NOT Work

    Quote Originally Posted by PunkedLife  [View Original Post]
    But why not just move to a new city that's more friendly to this type of business? If they are as popular as it seems then I'm sure their loyal customers would follow them. Plus it's not like a little extra drive would mean anything seeing as everything in this state is spread out. Or are most cities here putting out this bs making shit not worth it?
    Let's be somewhat logical about this.

    If it's just a simple matter of relocating, they would've already done that and avoided all the court stuff.

    Follies got too large and built an even larger notoriety for its crowds and activities within. Taking its name to another location in Atlanta area would just bring different eyes to its business, but the fight would continue. The only option they had to stay open under the Follies name was to acquiesce and adopt their business model (contact, alcohol, etc). So the Follies name is done. Best to try out a business under a new name.

    But it would not BE Follies. The bubble of nudity, alcohol, late hours and lap dance contact on the main floor gets smaller every year. Few cities and states allow all at the same time. The few places in Atlanta proper that do ARE NOT supposed to. That's where we get into which clubs are strictly air dance and which are not or, to translate, which follow the rules and which do not.

  3. #10014
    Quote Originally Posted by PunkedLife  [View Original Post]
    But why not just move to a new city that's more friendly to this type of business? If they are as popular as it seems then I'm sure their loyal customers would follow them. Plus it's not like a little extra drive would mean anything seeing as everything in this state is spread out. Or are most cities here putting out this bs making shit not worth it?
    No cities like this kind of business, if for no other reason than much of the money is under the table, so the city loses out on tax benefits. And forget constitutional challenges. That's now dead (constitution is what Supreme Court says it is). Strip clubs per se won't be banned, but expect non stop efforts. Particularly, but not exclusively, down here - (often using liquor licenses as the wedge) to attack lap dances and even nudity. Glad I got to have some fun, post divorce, back in the day!

  4. #10013

    Relocation

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaNights  [View Original Post]
    IIRC it began when they annexed that pet of a Buford Hwy to Chamblee. New ordinances. Loss of permits over bullshitty bullshit. Just becomes a costly PITA with all the lawsuits. RIP.
    But why not just move to a new city that's more friendly to this type of business? If they are as popular as it seems then I'm sure their loyal customers would follow them. Plus it's not like a little extra drive would mean anything seeing as everything in this state is spread out. Or are most cities here putting out this bs making shit not worth it?

  5. #10012
    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    That's too bad. Never knew Follies was fighting so many legal battles.
    IIRC it began when they annexed that pet of a Buford Hwy to Chamblee. New ordinances. Loss of permits over bullshitty bullshit. Just becomes a costly PITA with all the lawsuits. RIP.

  6. #10011
    It's too bad about follies. Let's just be thankful that we were the last generation to enjoy this type of club.

  7. #10010
    Quote Originally Posted by TMeister  [View Original Post]
    You probably also think the Earth is flat and climate change is a Chinese hoax.

    Follies will re-open at some point. These legal wranglings can take some time to work themselves out in the courts. The wheel of justice spin slowly, but turn exceedingly fine as the old saying goes.

    Like I already said, you can't just shut down a gold mine and strip club mecca like Follies. That would be like shutting down Disney World and Central Park. It does not compute.
    I could agree with you here despite what they are saying. Follies may be closed for now and even may be for a long time, but it could happen that there could be a ruling where something unconstitutional comes up where they open again. Then again, they could be tied up for years and not reopen for a very long time.

  8. #10009
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    That's too bad. Never knew Follies was fighting so many legal battles.

  9. #10008

    Chamblee

    Quote Originally Posted by Wleakr  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the naysayers will continue to push the fake news angle. Be glad you had it while it was here.
    I find it amusing that Chamblee fought follies so hard when on just about any weekday you can go across the street to Spa18 and see the local Chamblee PD Supervisor going or coming from getting his freebie.

  10. #10007
    Quote Originally Posted by Wleakr  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the naysayers will continue to push the fake news angle. Be glad you had it while it was here.
    Sadly, I agree. It's over (a place like Follies, with all its cash / hidden business, isn't a gold mine for the city, just the owners, and that's all that matters). We've seen the last golden days of adult businesses; from now on, it will be just holding on or trying to survive in niche businesses / locations (with the events of the past few days, any case in federal court is now guaranteed to end up being against the Follies of the world).

  11. #10006

    Read 'them And Weep

    I'm sure the naysayers will continue to push the fake news angle. Be glad you had it while it was here.

  12. #10005

    Follies

    https://www.ajc.com/news/chamblees-o...LYKUD7X5TVUJ4/

    Quote Originally Posted by TMeister  [View Original Post]
    You probably also think the Earth is flat and climate change is a Chinese hoax.

    Follies will re-open at some point. These legal wranglings can take some time to work themselves out in the courts. The wheel of justice spin slowly, but turn exceedingly fine as the old saying goes.

    Like I already said, you can't just shut down a gold mine and strip club mecca like Follies. That would be like shutting down Disney World and Central Park. It does not compute.

  13. #10004
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    Oh, I have no special love for Follies. I never liked the table service there (which was non-existent), or the smoky environment, or in later years the stench of weed. It was just the easiest place in town to stop in for a quick suck and fuck, or to shop for pretty, spinnerific fuck buddies.

    The only other Cheetah I remember was the Cheetah Elite, downtown on Baker Street (where Goosebumps opened later). I was a pretty sleepy club during the day time; I used to go there to play chess with the deejay when I was in grad school at Tech (I'd hit up the free buffet and we'd set up a chess board on a table out in the club, he'd have to get up occasionally to go to the deejay booth to change CDs or announce. Girls would stop by to watch us play. I mean, when I say sleepy club, I mean SLEEPY!) That's where I learned that the secret to scoring stripper pussy like a Pez dispenser is to NOT be a customer.

    O.
    I remember all kinds of references to cheetah elite, cheetah 1, cheetah 2, and cheetah 3. I didn't know all the cheetahs. I remember the cheetah on spring. Iirc, I think I was in some place called the cheetah elite once.

    I've followed your posts for years oz. I'm a true fan of your teachings. I came at this from a slightly different angle. We were at tech at the same time. I had become a depressed sometimes self medicated alchy. I didn't drink often, but when I did, I was over the edge drunk. I could get ugly. One afternoon, I was at the gold rush. I wasn't too drunk, thankfully. I ended up hooking up with a dancer from there. She said I was mysterious. I've been called many things, but never mysterious before or after. She once told me that if guys would drink less they would get laid more. She even said she was open to free sex with a non drunk who wasn't a dick, and she was a good looking chick. It was like the light bulb went off in my head. I've used that since, to keep myself under control. I'm not saying every stripper will jump in a fisherman's boat with that as an MO, I'm just saying that plenty of strippers jump in a fisherman's boat when you are not a drunk dick. Also, I don't go out an make it rain. Girls may think guys like a challenge, there are plenty of strippers that will go after a challenge. I've also found it is easier to get dancers to jump in the boat when you are there by yourself. The group vibe has guys trying to play more games with each other. That makes the dancers only think about getting the money. I've never understood why the older I have gotten, the more strippers jump in the boat for free. One of life's mysteries.

    Keep posting oz. I still want to learn more from you.

  14. #10003

    You love fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wleakr  [View Original Post]
    I don't know why Follies is closed, but it's pretty obvious the city doesn't want it there. If it were a simple liquor license issue, it would already be resolved.

    Does it make sense that all other Atlanta area clubs are open except this one? How long can a club NOT gain revenue and expect to open? All employees have moved on to other clubs. And the longer the club is closed, the more likely it will remain that way.

    Other clubs have closed over the years. It's now Follies turn to join them.
    You probably also think the Earth is flat and climate change is a Chinese hoax.

    Follies will re-open at some point. These legal wranglings can take some time to work themselves out in the courts. The wheel of justice spin slowly, but turn exceedingly fine as the old saying goes.

    Like I already said, you can't just shut down a gold mine and strip club mecca like Follies. That would be like shutting down Disney World and Central Park. It does not compute.

  15. #10002

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by TMeister  [View Original Post]
    Trust me, you can't just shut down a gold mine like Follies. It's like Disneyland for your dick and will always be that way. Too many juicy clits that need rubbed and tasty nipples that need sucked in that place.
    Shockingly, it took a good bit of effort by Sandy Springs to get Flasher's shut down. And it took a Herculean effort to shut down Mardi Gras in Sandy Springs. That place was a gold mine of the highest order and the owner had deep pockets for the lengthy court fight that it took to shut down MG. Many strip club owners are very, very smart businessmen and, if they are smart enough to own the dirt where their operation is, they crush it in ways that any other non-sex business would envy.

    Good times at both of those places.

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