Escort Reports

[Loki2472]

Usually the donations works out like this for most providers on STG or similar as of 2020:

80-100=15 m.

120-150=30 m.

180-250=60 m.

Case in point, Goth chick is 160 hh and 220 h: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...393/2672768250.

That being said, the time a provider actually allots can vary widely. I find if you just vibe well a 15 m date can turn into 40 min easy if they like to talk to you and they're not concerned with anything else on that particular day. I kid you not there is a provider I know who I set up a short stay stay and we just wind up chilling for 4 hours+ each time. It's like visiting an old friend and time just flies where we go to the store and such. When she's with me and her phone rings she don't answer or care about it..

Hey,

Do you have any info on her. I was inquiring about her not long ago.

[Loki2472]

There is a picture in the ad on the middle like that I've seen before on different ads that may have had some not good reviews.

I would like to have that info on the cherry hill sugar baby you mentioned if you could pm Me it. But as for the three your asking about, the first ad links to a provider I've see before. She is nice and willing but the pictures in the ad are all fake, she has a lot of mid section damage and her head game is nothing special. The second link takes me to the listcrawler site, so I can't see who your inquiring about which is a shame because I get most of my dates off of the listcrawler site. The third one is Candace who I have also seen a couple of times. There are also some reviews of her a little back in this forum. Once first t I me I seen her was for a two pop bbj at her hotel near the airport. Her skill isn't to good either, but she is willing as well throat fucked her the whole session while she was gasping for air. Felt pretty good, probably the most promising out of your three links. But as the other guy said those pics are old, she is heavier and she has been ghosting people a lot lately. Even me the last two time I tried to see her.

[FiremanForU]

Look at her prices. An overnight with her for $600??

Don't think so LOL.

1 hour at $150.

[YoshiRed]

I saw that Brianna Belle was in town. I linked up last year while I was visiting Baltimore because I saw some videos of her head work. Needless to say she's a legit head doctor. So I jumped at the chance to link up with her when I saw she was in town. Hit her up and she told me she was staying out KOP (the extended stay hotel). Went thru the hotel on Tuesday and just some headache relief. Now she does do CBJ's, but it doesn't matter shit will still have you bust in minutes LOL. She told me she's going to stay out here until Friday.

https://philadelphia.skipthegames.co...f/604646155810

And here's a video of her in action.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5d4c2ad289765

$160 for 30 min? And it's a CBJ? Good lord LOL.

[HugeMat]

I saw that Brianna Belle was in town. I linked up last year while I was visiting Baltimore because I saw some videos of her head work. Needless to say she's a legit head doctor. So I jumped at the chance to link up with her when I saw she was in town. Hit her up and she told me she was staying out KOP (the extended stay hotel). Went thru the hotel on Tuesday and just some headache relief. Now she does do CBJ's, but it doesn't matter shit will still have you bust in minutes LOL. She told me she's going to stay out here until Friday.

https://philadelphia.skipthegames.co...f/604646155810

And here's a video of her in action.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5d4c2ad289765

[Shampoo55]

A car date is totally different. There is a provider in Fishtown that has a 100-120 minimum for a CAR DATE. That's insane and I would never.

On the other hand, 100 short stay for a clean safe incall I don't see much of an issue especially if she's good at what she does, you have an established rapport, and she makes sure as shit that you leave happy. Hell, I have spent that much going out on a vanilla date and didn't even get a kiss at the end of the evening. I have also spent good money on fuel cost by getting stood up / catfished by a cheaper providers. Sometimes the higher donation filters out the BS.

I think it's easy to sit back and think these providers keep upping the donations but not only do they live in the same world we do where the cost of everything keeps going up all around us but there is a high overhead to stay afloat as an escort especially if they work alone.

One provider told me her monthly motel bill is 2 k! Add in takeout food every day, plus money to party and maybe family they support and they're pretty much broke at the end of the day / week / month.

Also, this is a high risk job meeting strangers from one day to the next. One day a guy could rob them of everything they worked for to the next day they're getting arrested and have to pay a bunch of legal bills.

Because of the risk I think that's why so many providers are drug addicts because non drug addicts see the all the dangers doesn't make it worth it. A non drug addicted woman isn't going to subject herself to being robbed, arrested, stalked by a loon, and possibly sexually assaulted over a measly 100.

Lance, I am going to hit your post pretty hard with this reply, but using you as an example in hopes that others reading here will learn a thing or too. Sorry f it feels personal, it isn't, I'm just fired up.

It is thinking like this that has lead to an increase in the "list price" by 50-100 in the last 2-3 years.

Most girls you find at 100 ss aren't providing a great place, good service, etc. (I encorage everyone to go date the HIGH end girls so you have a scale to judge by) Otherwise comments are justifying paying too much. Not until you hit the Eros or Tryst girls do you filter out much of the BS. Sure appears as though many do not have the full spectrum for comparison.

But why would anyone make economic arguments FOR the providers? Sigh. Like I said, rates were consistently lower a few years ago, as I noted in a prior post, until a wave of dudes came along and agreed to had over too much of their hard earned cash at 'list!' Girls aren't dumb and are glad to take candy from the babies.

A girl reported her hotel bill was 2 K per month? I learned, from many years experience NOT to believe everything a girl in the business tells you! Sigh. But so what? I know a girl who claims to make $9 k per week? Sure there are costs of doing business, but without a holistic view of her "books" one can't put 2 K / mo. Into context. Er, unless one wants to be impressed and had over some extra donation to her.

I have no empathy for a girl who is over charging, but lets her funds flow through her fingers like water and is "broke" at the end of the week or month. You want to be a provider, you need to learn how to run a business! Why should I over pay when your service is inferior or equal to another who takes less, just because you can't manage money?

But why should I pay more because a girl chose a risky job? If she is in business she should have screening and safety procedures in place.

That's not my concern and no reason to pay extra or a premium. Getting arrest and and have high legal bills? Sigh. Prostitution is what kind of crime? A) misdemeanor, b) 2nd degree violation, c) felony, or d) 3rd degree felony?

Seriously? Because providing is high risk, THAT is the reason so many girls are drug addicts? Sigh, SIGH, SIGH. When you are an addict, it runs your life. Some girls have the wherewithal to provide in order to fund their habits. Drugs come first, providing comes second. Drugs are always the driver.

Like I said before, the problem is there is a wave of 'new' guys in the hobby that have no clue, think they know it all, when in fact they could use a bit of learning. Now let's see if anything sticks?

[Shampoo55]

So, how low have folks been able to negotiate a 100 ss down to. Once in a while I can get her down to 60, but when a girl tells me 100 ss, I usually look elsewhere, unless she has something special offer, like a well above average body.

How? You open your mouth an talk. Sure negotiating can be a bit of an art, but it can be learned. So if you reactions is to look elsewhere when a post has 100 SS then you are doing yourself and the community a disservice. You have nothing to lose, right? Why not try and see if you can get 60? After all you were going to click to the next girl. You might find you hit on a few. Plus with time, you will get an idea of what works and what doesn't.

Clicking on the next girl doesn't help over all. If enough guys say 'No!" to 100 ss and negotiate lower, the girls will start to get the message. But pay 'list' at 100 and next year they start asking for 120,140+.

It's up to you how you spend your money, but if one guys is paying 50 or 60 why are you convincing yourself that she has something special that makes her worth 400/ hr equivalent?

[Shampoo55]

Usually the donations works out like this for most providers on STG or similar as of 2020:

80-100=15 m.

120-150=30 m.

180-250=60 m.

Case in point, Goth chick is 160 hh and 220 h: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...393/2672768250.

That being said, the time a provider actually allots can vary widely. I find if you just vibe well a 15 m date can turn into 40 min easy if they like to talk to you and they're not concerned with anything else on that particular day. I kid you not there is a provider I know who I set up a short stay stay and we just wind up chilling for 4 hours+ each time. It's like visiting an old friend and time just flies where we go to the store and such. When she's with me and her phone rings she don't answer or care about it.

On the other hand, if a provider is deep in her habit, she's always concerned about texting people on her phone, or we don't know each other then a short stay is 15 m and carefully kept on schedule.

In other words, some providers are assembly line style get them in and out and others are more sugar baby /2 or 3 a day type even though two different providers have the same rates.

Those rates you quoted may appear to be the going rates, but only for those who don't or won't negotiate. Asking prices are 50-100+ above where they were a few years ago, not because service has gotten any better, but of mass ignorance. Then again, if dudes woul quit paying 'list" the ask prices would come down.

Too many guys 'new' to the hobby that have no clue, think they know everything and get apoplectic when someone tries to learn them something. These dudes are paying these rates no doubt.

There are a few of us that refuse to pay these rates just because they are "listed rates!" Those of us that would like to pay less are having the game ruined by others.

I mean for Chist sake! Pussy is pussy! You can pay 40 to a SW girl or 250 to an online escort and in the end you shot the same tablespoon of spunk into a bag. What "extra" did you get for that extra $210 you spent? Was it really worth it?

These are what the rates should be, especially for the types on escortaligator, et al.

SS = 50 - 60.

HHR = 60 -80 maybe 100.

HR = 100 - 120.

I mean WTF are you dudes thinking? You want to pay 250/ hr for a girl and date at a sleazy motel or go into a sketchy neighborhood? Why would you pay more than 160? After all you can go to an AMP, get a table shower, massage plus your knob polished for 160, yet you'd rather give your hard earned money away for lesser service?

I bet these same geniuses are paying 60 for head on the Ave and willing to fork over 100 for a back seat romp? Sigh.

Any girl asking for a rate of 300 (or equivalent) or more should be hosting in a 4-star hotel, or very discreet upscale apartment, She will be immaculately attired: makeup, nails, hair. She will find your needs and provide for them. But the problem is that dudes who have never tasted the upper echelons have no idea and settle for the A-level rates with C or D level service.

Paying too much or getting inferior level of service is always one's "right" in a free country.

[Jayke00]

https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/10972083 610-699-9399.

I understand this is not a unique experience in this hobby of ours.

Texted Chrissy to set something up and after some initial confusion over rates (initial quote $1. 2 hh, then 2 minutes later $1. 3 hh) and further confusion over her thinking she sent the address when she hadn't, we settled on a time and off I went.

She texted me once while I was on my way over to confirm and I replied within 2 minutes. She then called (voice!) 5 minutes later, which I missed, but returned her call a minute later and after a brief chat re-re-confirmed.

I text a few minutes before arrival as requested, no answer. Texted when I got there, no answer. Maybe 45 seconds after I parked on her street I saw an older, heavyset WoC use her keys to let herself into the house. Maybe Mom? Texted Chrissy once more, still no response. Not wanting to blow her cover I didn't call. Perhaps I should have.

Anyone successfully seen Chrissy? If so, what was your experience?

Nothing. Maybe I'll try again when I recycle my burner number. Anyone seen her?

[Lance547]

That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.
I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack. Never met up.I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.

A car date is totally different. There is a provider in Fishtown that has a 100-120 minimum for a CAR DATE. That's insane and I would never.

On the other hand, 100 short stay for a clean safe incall I don't see much of an issue especially if she's good at what she does, you have an established rapport, and she makes sure as shit that you leave happy. Hell, I have spent that much going out on a vanilla date and didn't even get a kiss at the end of the evening. I have also spent good money on fuel cost by getting stood up / catfished by a cheaper providers. Sometimes the higher donation filters out the BS.

I think it's easy to sit back and think these providers keep upping the donations but not only do they live in the same world we do where the cost of everything keeps going up all around us but there is a high overhead to stay afloat as an escort especially if they work alone.

One provider told me her monthly motel bill is 2 k! Add in takeout food every day, plus money to party and maybe family they support and they're pretty much broke at the end of the day / week / month.

Also, this is a high risk job meeting strangers from one day to the next. One day a guy could rob them of everything they worked for to the next day they're getting arrested and have to pay a bunch of legal bills.

Because of the risk I think that's why so many providers are drug addicts because non drug addicts see the all the dangers doesn't make it worth it. A non drug addicted woman isn't going to subject herself to being robbed, arrested, stalked by a loon, and possibly sexually assaulted over a measly 100.

[Delco Gent]

That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up.

I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.

So, how low have folks been able to negotiate a 100 ss down to. Once in a while I can get her down to 60, but when a girl tells me 100 ss, I usually look elsewhere, unless she has something special offer, like a well above average body.

[WowPlayer]

https://philadelphia.skipthegames.co...t/149094964447

Googled number but didn't get much. Texting the babe right now and is responding. Any intel?

[Vitalogy1980]

When I got into the game BP was up I use to hit up providers around Temple area, University City and CC. It was great. Had a nice regular who was from like York PA who lived around Temple Univ but she's looong gone and those days are sadly over.

I haven't been to CC or anything close just for providers for 3-4 years now so I can't help you out on that. Seems like all the real and decent incall providers are in the Northeast. And now because of Covid less providers are travelling to CC to set up incall because office workers are working from home now and the nightlife is completely gone.

Not sure if it's your thing but you might have to do an outcall to CC. I haven't seen her but she does outcalls and has good reviews:

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/o...endly/33055384

Okay, thanks. That girl looks real cute. The NE girls do too. Had my eye on that Fiona chick for a while. So I might have to travel a bit LOL.

[DudeOfDelco]

That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up..

You're average college grad isn't likely going to be sexually assaulted or murdered while working for a temp agency. There are massive issues with how wages have stagnated in this country, but sex workers deal with entirely different sets of circumstances. Ever go to a strip club and chat with the girls enough to disarm them enough to open up? I've done so with on a couple occasions, some will be pretty open about being stalked by customers, worrying about their safety when leaving the club, etc. And that's strippers. Women who are not working in the shadows, who are working in establishments that have varying levels of security.

Imagine what it's like for these women, meeting guys whom they can't ID. Shit goes sideways at times. It has to. Law of averages.

I don't judge anyone for seeing hookers, escorts, or whatever. It all should be legal, but you shouldn't be pissed that these girls are trying to make as much money as possible with each interaction with a John. It's got to be a terrifying job.

I've wanted to partake in the hobby for a while, but have never pulled the trigger because I feel squeamish about the situation these women are in. Don't get me wrong, I don't judge folks for doing so. This shit is natural and should be legal. But the current framework in which it's run is gross and it ain't the fault of the girls or the customers.

[PPJones]

SS is 15 minutes.

100 X 4 = 400 / hour.

This is the way you guys need to think about things to avoid overpaying and driving prices up. Just because 100 fits in your budget doesn't mean it is a good deal. These girls are good at the maths, some guys just think with the little head.

You want to pay the equivalent of $400/ hour then you need to get a girl that looks like the girls on Eros or Tryst with the 4-star hotel and excellent service to go with it.

That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up.

I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.