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  1. #3198

    Tried to get back in touch and.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayke00  [View Original Post]
    https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/10972083 610-699-9399.

    I understand this is not a unique experience in this hobby of ours.

    Texted Chrissy to set something up and after some initial confusion over rates (initial quote $1. 2 hh, then 2 minutes later $1. 3 hh) and further confusion over her thinking she sent the address when she hadn't, we settled on a time and off I went.

    She texted me once while I was on my way over to confirm and I replied within 2 minutes. She then called (voice!) 5 minutes later, which I missed, but returned her call a minute later and after a brief chat re-re-confirmed.

    I text a few minutes before arrival as requested, no answer. Texted when I got there, no answer. Maybe 45 seconds after I parked on her street I saw an older, heavyset WoC use her keys to let herself into the house. Maybe Mom? Texted Chrissy once more, still no response. Not wanting to blow her cover I didn't call. Perhaps I should have.

    Anyone successfully seen Chrissy? If so, what was your experience?
    Nothing. Maybe I'll try again when I recycle my burner number. Anyone seen her?

  2. #3197
    Quote Originally Posted by PPJones  [View Original Post]
    That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.
    I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack. Never met up.I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.
    A car date is totally different. There is a provider in Fishtown that has a 100-120 minimum for a CAR DATE. That's insane and I would never.

    On the other hand, 100 short stay for a clean safe incall I don't see much of an issue especially if she's good at what she does, you have an established rapport, and she makes sure as shit that you leave happy. Hell, I have spent that much going out on a vanilla date and didn't even get a kiss at the end of the evening. I have also spent good money on fuel cost by getting stood up / catfished by a cheaper providers. Sometimes the higher donation filters out the BS.

    I think it's easy to sit back and think these providers keep upping the donations but not only do they live in the same world we do where the cost of everything keeps going up all around us but there is a high overhead to stay afloat as an escort especially if they work alone.

    One provider told me her monthly motel bill is 2 k! Add in takeout food every day, plus money to party and maybe family they support and they're pretty much broke at the end of the day / week / month.

    Also, this is a high risk job meeting strangers from one day to the next. One day a guy could rob them of everything they worked for to the next day they're getting arrested and have to pay a bunch of legal bills.

    Because of the risk I think that's why so many providers are drug addicts because non drug addicts see the all the dangers doesn't make it worth it. A non drug addicted woman isn't going to subject herself to being robbed, arrested, stalked by a loon, and possibly sexually assaulted over a measly 100.

  3. #3196
    Quote Originally Posted by PPJones  [View Original Post]
    That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

    I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

    I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up.

    I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.
    So, how low have folks been able to negotiate a 100 ss down to. Once in a while I can get her down to 60, but when a girl tells me 100 ss, I usually look elsewhere, unless she has something special offer, like a well above average body.

  4. #3195

    Responding in text

    https://philadelphia.skipthegames.co...t/149094964447

    Googled number but didn't get much. Texting the babe right now and is responding. Any intel?

  5. #3194
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    When I got into the game BP was up I use to hit up providers around Temple area, University City and CC. It was great. Had a nice regular who was from like York PA who lived around Temple Univ but she's looong gone and those days are sadly over.

    I haven't been to CC or anything close just for providers for 3-4 years now so I can't help you out on that. Seems like all the real and decent incall providers are in the Northeast. And now because of Covid less providers are travelling to CC to set up incall because office workers are working from home now and the nightlife is completely gone.

    Not sure if it's your thing but you might have to do an outcall to CC. I haven't seen her but she does outcalls and has good reviews:

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/o...endly/33055384
    Okay, thanks. That girl looks real cute. The NE girls do too. Had my eye on that Fiona chick for a while. So I might have to travel a bit LOL.

  6. #3193

    The key difference is

    Quote Originally Posted by PPJones  [View Original Post]
    That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

    I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

    I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up..
    You're average college grad isn't likely going to be sexually assaulted or murdered while working for a temp agency. There are massive issues with how wages have stagnated in this country, but sex workers deal with entirely different sets of circumstances. Ever go to a strip club and chat with the girls enough to disarm them enough to open up? I've done so with on a couple occasions, some will be pretty open about being stalked by customers, worrying about their safety when leaving the club, etc. And that's strippers. Women who are not working in the shadows, who are working in establishments that have varying levels of security.

    Imagine what it's like for these women, meeting guys whom they can't ID. Shit goes sideways at times. It has to. Law of averages.

    I don't judge anyone for seeing hookers, escorts, or whatever. It all should be legal, but you shouldn't be pissed that these girls are trying to make as much money as possible with each interaction with a John. It's got to be a terrifying job.

    I've wanted to partake in the hobby for a while, but have never pulled the trigger because I feel squeamish about the situation these women are in. Don't get me wrong, I don't judge folks for doing so. This shit is natural and should be legal. But the current framework in which it's run is gross and it ain't the fault of the girls or the customers.

  7. #3192

    Completely agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    SS is 15 minutes.

    100 X 4 = 400 / hour.

    This is the way you guys need to think about things to avoid overpaying and driving prices up. Just because 100 fits in your budget doesn't mean it is a good deal. These girls are good at the maths, some guys just think with the little head.

    You want to pay the equivalent of $400/ hour then you need to get a girl that looks like the girls on Eros or Tryst with the 4-star hotel and excellent service to go with it.
    That hundred dollar SS is a real pain. Mostly because it IS in many guys budgets, and girls and "others" know it.

    I had found a UTR one night and had been chatting. She had a regular job and all, but wanted some extra. After a tiresome hour of chatting then she hits me with 120/ ss, in the CAR, and "if I'm not long winded". Mind you I was only looking for a quick BBBJ.

    I said really? You sit there and tell me how you have this great job. Did you go to college to get a degree? Yes. Did you stay up late studying and work hard to get this degree? Yes. So all that hard work and late nights and studying and interview process to get this great job and how much do you make? 22/ hr. So you want me to give you the equivalent of almost 500/ hr for something you need NO degree and had almost no interview process and only have whatever "on the job" training you "say" you have? What if I offer you 3 times your hourly rate for only fifteen minutes work? As she agreed, she got called in to work late night, because one of her patients had had a heart attack🙄. Never met up.

    I'm not saying that this isn't something that these girls should not be paid for at all, but without a resume and some reviews and some degree, let's be reasonable.

  8. #3191
    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    SS is 15 minutes.
    100 X 4 = 400 / hour.
    This is the way you guys need to think about things to avoid overpaying and driving prices up. Just because 100 fits in your budget doesn't mean it is a good deal. These girls are good at the maths, some guys just think with the little head.

    You want to pay the equivalent of $400/ hour then you need to get a girl that looks like the girls on Eros or Tryst with the 4-star hotel and excellent service to go with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDaddy  [View Original Post]
    He didn't see that price listed, but a short stay is typically 15 minutes. Therefore $100 for 15 minutes = $400 an hour. Most girls give a small break for longer sessions however, but at that price for a short stay she would still likely be asking for at least $250 for an hour if not more.
    Usually the donations works out like this for most providers on STG or similar as of 2020:

    80-100=15 m.

    120-150=30 m.

    180-250=60 m.

    Case in point, Goth chick is 160 hh and 220 h: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...393/2672768250.

    That being said, the time a provider actually allots can vary widely. I find if you just vibe well a 15 m date can turn into 40 min easy if they like to talk to you and they're not concerned with anything else on that particular day. I kid you not there is a provider I know who I set up a short stay stay and we just wind up chilling for 4 hours+ each time. It's like visiting an old friend and time just flies where we go to the store and such. When she's with me and her phone rings she don't answer or care about it.

    On the other hand, if a provider is deep in her habit, she's always concerned about texting people on her phone, or we don't know each other then a short stay is 15 m and carefully kept on schedule.

    In other words, some providers are assembly line style get them in and out and others are more sugar baby /2 or 3 a day type even though two different providers have the same rates.

  9. #3190
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitalogy1980  [View Original Post]
    Dude. This is a KINGLY comment. Right to the point. "Here, these women are real. " Wish there were more comments along these lines. Any chance you have similar intel on any girls a little closer to the Center City area? I work in town, usually take the train, can't really do much once I get home, but I can leave the office for hours at a time when I want LOL. Center City, South Philly, University City, anything around those areas? Still, regardless, thanks for the great info.

    And I know I'm one of those horrible mongers who asks but never offers. Just haven't had much to report. Was out of the game for years, came back to it right as the world was about to go nuts. All I've done since my return is a few AMPs on "the row". Nothing bad, but nothing worth bragging about. Soon as I have an actual review, I'll give it.
    When I got into the game BP was up I use to hit up providers around Temple area, University City and CC. It was great. Had a nice regular who was from like York PA who lived around Temple Univ but she's looong gone and those days are sadly over.

    I haven't been to CC or anything close just for providers for 3-4 years now so I can't help you out on that. Seems like all the real and decent incall providers are in the Northeast. And now because of Covid less providers are travelling to CC to set up incall because office workers are working from home now and the nightlife is completely gone.

    Not sure if it's your thing but you might have to do an outcall to CC. I haven't seen her but she does outcalls and has good reviews:

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/o...endly/33055384

  10. #3189
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    Where did you see 400? Donation starts at 100 for short stay.
    SS is 15 minutes.

    100 X 4 = 400 / hour.

    This is the way you guys need to think about things to avoid overpaying and driving prices up. Just because 100 fits in your budget doesn't mean it is a good deal. These girls are good at the maths, some guys just think with the little head.

    You want to pay the equivalent of $400/ hour then you need to get a girl that looks like the girls on Eros or Tryst with the 4-star hotel and excellent service to go with it.

  11. #3188

    He just did the math

    He didn't see that price listed, but a short stay is typically 15 minutes. Therefore $100 for 15 minutes = $400 an hour. Most girls give a small break for longer sessions however, but at that price for a short stay she would still likely be asking for at least $250 for an hour if not more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    Where did you see 400? Donation starts at 100 for short stay.

  12. #3187
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/-/30862006

    In the above link she's real and legit. Clean and safe incall in the northeast. She's actually hot and pretty. Her pictures make her look thick but she's actually tall and slender. For what you get the donation is fair and she looks better then 90% what is available.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/warnin...ctive/32468829

    She's is real. I recommend her. Works in the Northeast at a clean and safe incall. BD is open. Pictures are old but she still has the same frame.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/sexi-lexi/31608654

    Lexi is real. Clean quiet incall location. The only downside is that she likes to party hard and you can see that is has taken its toll. Her right forearm even though it has healed looks deformed due to party usage and her midsection needs some work. Donations are a little steep considering some of those pictures are old but incall is safe and she has skills.
    Dude. This is a KINGLY comment. Right to the point. "Here, these women are real. " Wish there were more comments along these lines. Any chance you have similar intel on any girls a little closer to the Center City area? I work in town, usually take the train, can't really do much once I get home, but I can leave the office for hours at a time when I want LOL. Center City, South Philly, University City, anything around those areas? Still, regardless, thanks for the great info.

    And I know I'm one of those horrible mongers who asks but never offers. Just haven't had much to report. Was out of the game for years, came back to it right as the world was about to go nuts. All I've done since my return is a few AMPs on "the row". Nothing bad, but nothing worth bragging about. Soon as I have an actual review, I'll give it.

  13. #3186
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteTesla5  [View Original Post]
    Jenn mayfair anyone seen her? Her body looks nice for her age, those implants?

    https://adultsearch.com/pennsylvania...scorts/2055610
    Look at her prices. An overnight with her for $600??

    Don't think so LOL.

  14. #3185
    She's real and she's cool but those pictures are old. Like from beginning of 2019. In this business (with party use) a girls looks can change dramatically in a month let alone 2 years.

    By the time I did a date with her she lost weight and wasn't done up even just a little like the photos. Her donation is a little higher than others and I didn't mind, but I was a little disappointed when I saw her in real life because of the weight loss and just rolled out of bed frumpy look.

    She's actually a nice person and I still recommend her but she needs to update those pictures or maybe run specials from time to time. Also, in real life she is petite and can't take a lot. If you're a big man or you like to get a little rough she ain't the one.

  15. #3184
    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    $400 / hour for that? I'd rather fish on Eros or Tryst at that price range.
    Where did you see 400? Donation starts at 100 for short stay.

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