BBFS Providers Manhattan

**Draves** · 08-18-20 17:20

Originally Posted by Masoko23 [View Original Post]

I was referred to a lab that some SW, porn stars and porn actress use.

How was your experience dealing with booking and seeing Juelz?

**UncleThrax** · 08-18-20 12:33

Originally Posted by Zeyto [View Original Post]

That's a shame to hear. I really wanted to go to Montreal this year and see what it's like to hobby over there. I heard just the regular girls were dtf for anything. But if the pro scene is little for strict on bb then I'll try out Toronto. I know there is BB forum strictly for Toronto if you Google it.

Don't waste your time on Montreal, I've been there for a bachelor party and it's a dead zone for BBFS and basically just a tourist trap. The only good thing about it are the comparatively cheap strip clubs. Toronto is definitely better. It's still difficult and you have to put in legwork but not damn near impossible like Montreal.

**AbuSaho** · 08-18-20 10:38

Originally Posted by UncleThrax [View Original Post]

Somewhat related note, I ran into this article and this just reinforces my belief that the same analogy about real estate can be applied to hobbying. The only good news about a deflationary spiral is that we might see rates drop. Although if it gets too extreme the desirable but unaffordable providers will book it and follow the money wherever it moves while the affordable but undesirable providers who can't leave will have no choice but to drop their rates:

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

I thought the same of this pandemic leading to a deflation. With people saving their money more often since they don't know what future holds. It would lead to those who do spend on providers to be able to get lowered rates. Since the demand for them was way down. Since it risky to be in close contact to strangers maskless. It turned out both sides left / quit. Those with massive amounts of disposable income probably had the means to move elsewhere at height of pandemic and providers retired / quit en masse for safety reasons. So to give an analogy the swamp got drained of water but the bad fish didn't leave. Mainly the good fish did. Bad providers not going to drop their rates in fact many of the ones left in places like Bronx who advertise in Manhattan to get Manhattan people to travel to them might rob you with a cash and dash to get best of both worlds. Get your money and not have to deal with corona risk.

**Zeyto** · 08-18-20 07:59

Originally Posted by MrFrench [View Original Post]

There are probably many reasons for it, not the least of which is that there are more people going around "educating" people in NY to tell them that BBFS is bad. Another reason could be the prevalence of HIV / AIDS in NYC. I don't know.

But, if you think it's bad in NYC, you ought to try Montreal. If the covid virus hadn't interfered, I would have been heading to Montreal on business this fall and would have checked out the BBFS scene for myself but the word from everyone I've talked with is it's almost impossible to find there. And the reason is, again from what I've heard, there is more "education" from the government and others about the "evils" of BBFS.

That's a shame to hear. I really wanted to go to Montreal this year and see what it's like to hobby over there. I heard just the regular girls were dtf for anything. But if the pro scene is little for strict on bb then I'll try out Toronto. I know there is BB forum strictly for Toronto if you Google it.

**OkTotti** · 08-17-20 23:14

Originally Posted by Pat2019 [View Original Post]

I sent text message to Diamond Desires and the phone girl replied back to me saying Juliette does full GFE and she is BBFS friendly. But, out of respect, I didn't want to be too explicit over the phone, so I didn't ask her if Juliette does CIP. Anyway, personally, I'm not worry if a girl does or does not CIP, all I want is that she is BBFS banger, and I know how to handle the rest. I am experienced BBFS specialist, so I know how to manage the BBFS sessions.

Did you happen to see Juliette? The only review I saw of her on TNA, said that No DFK, LFK or BLS. BBFS session isn't enough for me without it being GFE.

**UncleThrax** · 08-17-20 21:46

Originally Posted by UncleThrax [View Original Post]

I think everything in NYC, whether you're talking about food, entertainment, dating, or hobbying, pretty much mirrors the real estate and rental market here.

In other words it's all overrated, over-entitled, unjustifiably overpriced bullshit, and saturated with demand. Which means everyone has to pay more for less. It's a seller's market, in other words. And just like with the NYC real estate market, I'm really hoping COVid changes that real soon by significantly lessening demand permanently.

Somewhat related note, I ran into this article and this just reinforces my belief that the same analogy about real estate can be applied to hobbying. The only good news about a deflationary spiral is that we might see rates drop. Although if it gets too extreme the desirable but unaffordable providers will book it and follow the money wherever it moves while the affordable but undesirable providers who can't leave will have no choice but to drop their rates:

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

**MrFrench** · 08-17-20 21:38

Originally Posted by Trav459 [View Original Post]

Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?

There are probably many reasons for it, not the least of which is that there are more people going around "educating" people in NY to tell them that BBFS is bad. Another reason could be the prevalence of HIV / AIDS in NYC. I don't know.

But, if you think it's bad in NYC, you ought to try Montreal. If the covid virus hadn't interfered, I would have been heading to Montreal on business this fall and would have checked out the BBFS scene for myself but the word from everyone I've talked with is it's almost impossible to find there. And the reason is, again from what I've heard, there is more "education" from the government and others about the "evils" of BBFS.

**Pat2019** · 08-17-20 21:20

I sent text message to Diamond Desires and the phone girl replied back to me saying Juliette does full GFE and she is BBFS friendly. But, out of respect, I didn't want to be too explicit over the phone, so I didn't ask her if Juliette does CIP. Anyway, personally, I'm not worry if a girl does or does not CIP, all I want is that she is BBFS banger, and I know how to handle the rest. I am experienced BBFS specialist, so I know how to manage the BBFS sessions.

**BBPornoGeek** · 08-17-20 19:39

Originally Posted by Bigfish27 [View Original Post]

Anyone know if Juliette does BBFS?

Also for those curious, Nicklett at Pearls of NYC is not BBFS. But still a very beautiful girl and gave a good BBBJ

Don't know about Juliette but Nicolette let me CIP at Lear's. She jumps between Pearls and Lear's.

**Masoko23** · 08-17-20 19:32

Originally Posted by UncleThrax [View Original Post]

I think everything in NYC, whether you're talking about food, entertainment, dating, or hobbying, pretty much mirrors the real estate and rental market here.

In other words it's all overrated, over-entitled, unjustifiably overpriced bullshit, and saturated with demand. Which means everyone has to pay more for less. It's a seller's market, in other words. And just like with the NYC real estate market, I'm really hoping COVid changes that real soon by significantly lessening demand permanently.

To me the turning point was when ter went on 2 years hiatus in the US. In the name of me too shit many girls appeared on platform like private delight where you can't explicitly review them. Even many are bare friendly and cip the service is flat. No passion. They just open their legs pretty much then you drip your loads. It is more like a lottery now to find a good quality bareback nowadays.

To make things worse, some dude pay 800 or more for flat or boring services. When I paybthat kind of of money, I discuss services (bareback, cip, golden shower, cim, asshole) openly. I am giving no one free money. They have to earn it. If we do not agree, move on to the next.

**BigFish27** · 08-17-20 17:47

Anyone know if Juliette does BBFS?

Also for those curious, Nicklett at Pearls of NYC is not BBFS. But still a very beautiful girl and gave a good BBBJ.

**Zeyto** · 08-17-20 16:22

Originally Posted by OkTotti [View Original Post]

Yes, Paige is with standard tip.

He asked for anyone else other than Paige.

**Chaditcom** · 08-17-20 14:03

Anyone give this girl a whirl yet? Must admit I am a bit intrigued.

I haven't gone to that Lexi Lace chick for three reasons:

She is not that good looking.

Reviews are tepid.

Lastly, in one of her pics she has a sign in the room that says no English spoken here. Kind of pisses me off.

**OkTotti** · 08-17-20 11:24

Originally Posted by VertiGold [View Original Post]

Does anyone know if anyone other than Paige is BBFS friendly at diamond desires?

Yes, Paige is with standard tip.

**AbuSaho** · 08-17-20 09:47

Originally Posted by Trav459 [View Original Post]

Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.

Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?

I think it is a mixture of an evolution and an exodus. A couple years ago the break down in NYC might have been 50/50 with one side being UTR/Short Term women with no connections to other escorts. The other side being career escorts and those with handlers or host in locations that have multiple girls at one location. The UTR /Short Term were more willing to negotiate with lowering their rate drastically, going bare, CIP, MSOG, etc since they probably didn't have regulars or just needed a certain amount to get by and they were willing to meet you halfway. A woman desperate to pay a phone bill in the craiglist era could often be talked down from 200/hhr condom only to 80-100/hhr and bare. Either after 1-2 meetings or during before 1st one if they really needed the money.

The other side the career escorts and those that have multiple women in one location have connections with escorts they talk to them exchange stories / rates. So house rules get created. These career escorts or multi provider locations only need a certain number of meetings a month to break even. So once they hit a number of regulars they can't just no longer negotiate. So if they are a 100/150/200 girl who gives you 1 pop of condom only sex in your time. If you disagree with any aspect she can move on she has 15-30 other regulars who do what she wants and NYC has a lot of mongers out here so if one says no another is around the corner to agree to demands. Which also plays a major part having a lot of mongers gives the power to the women.

With that out of way I can say what I think caused the evolution / exodus. Right now the split is probably 99% of women on these escorts sites are career escorts and multi women location spots. Short Term/UTR women kinda non existent. Craigslist, Backpage, and cityxguide went down. There were other options created or popularized to get money like Tinder, SeekingArangement, OnlyFans. So a lot of women in NYC who would have been bareback friendly went elsewhere they evolved with the market. And in 2020 coronavirus happened. Which was the exodus. A lot of good women in the career escort category as well as UTR women just quit. So now you left with women who been in the game for years or just post ads every single day that have their set rules which include no bareback left. I think other cities favor the monger. Like I been to places in Europe where this is legal. And the rates were low and you could get bareback easily. NYC the first question can often be are you a cop / pimp and the women have a lot of options.