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  1. #9206
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1189

    Loveland

    Quote Originally Posted by MarblesKyle  [View Original Post]
    This is a two visits in one review update on the Loveland location.

    Tried to hit my regular joint recently on a weeknight around 8:30. Was greeted by the shorter masseuse who's been there for a while and she said they were busy and to come back at 9:30. So I killed time down the street and came back at 9:28. Lights were off and the doors were locked.

    Walked around back to get in my car and saw the taller, prettier masseuse who's also been there for a while coming out of the back door and getting into a nice sedan driven by a white dude. She was in a hurry. Not saying the dude was getting take out but it sure looked that way. They closed a half hour early. So if that's the case I tip my cap to the guy in the sedan.

    I was in the area anyway so I wasn't too bothered, I'm sure these ladies frequently have people say they are coming back and never show up, etc.

    I still like this place but unfortunately it gets busier and busier. Calling ahead gets you nowhere, since they don't remember your name and the next guy who comes in they just assume is the guy who called. Last time I went that happened, about a month ago. I said I would be there in 30 and when I got there the shorter one came out and said the guy she was with currently said he called too. Luckily, the backup was available who I actually like more. Other times I haven't been so lucky and have had to wait 10-20 min while another monger is using my reservation.

    I'll continue visiting but I accept it as a roll of the dice and never make a special trip. If I'm in the area, with time to spare, I try it.
    I've had mixed results there over the years. Sometimes the HE is automatic, sometimes I have to ask for it and once in a while it's not on the menu. What's your experience been since they reopened after covid?

  2. #9205

    I found a gem!!

    This is a new location. I will tell select few the location.

  3. #9204

    Loveland

    This is a two visits in one review update on the Loveland location.

    Tried to hit my regular joint recently on a weeknight around 8:30. Was greeted by the shorter masseuse who's been there for a while and she said they were busy and to come back at 9:30. So I killed time down the street and came back at 9:28. Lights were off and the doors were locked.

    Walked around back to get in my car and saw the taller, prettier masseuse who's also been there for a while coming out of the back door and getting into a nice sedan driven by a white dude. She was in a hurry. Not saying the dude was getting take out but it sure looked that way. They closed a half hour early. So if that's the case I tip my cap to the guy in the sedan.

    I was in the area anyway so I wasn't too bothered, I'm sure these ladies frequently have people say they are coming back and never show up, etc.

    I still like this place but unfortunately it gets busier and busier. Calling ahead gets you nowhere, since they don't remember your name and the next guy who comes in they just assume is the guy who called. Last time I went that happened, about a month ago. I said I would be there in 30 and when I got there the shorter one came out and said the guy she was with currently said he called too. Luckily, the backup was available who I actually like more. Other times I haven't been so lucky and have had to wait 10-20 min while another monger is using my reservation.

    I'll continue visiting but I accept it as a roll of the dice and never make a special trip. If I'm in the area, with time to spare, I try it.

  4. #9203

    A Church or a "Church?"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldPilot  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.
    Now I really want to walk in and see if they'll get on their knees and pay me homage.

  5. #9202

    Might need a little advice

    Quote Originally Posted by IFeelGood  [View Original Post]
    There were a number of posts here that would have suitable for a response but I really liked OB's so here you go.

    This is only for a little perspective so take it as you wish.

    1st there are only a few places that I visit which allows for a bit of familiarity which really helps in this hobby. For me I visit only 4 which I will probably reduce to 3 as I think kabout it writing this. Choose the place you like / feel comfortable from everything to inside logistics, cleanliness and vibe.

    2nd I keep a very simple menu: 30 min if no massage 60 min if I want a little massage.

    3rd My tipping is up front discussion showing the money: . 4 for HE.

    8 for CBJ or $ for / if GFE.

    1. 4 for CFS or 1. 6 for / if GFE..
    If I may ask (and feel free to DM me the answer if necessary), how are you asking for GFE? Perhaps I'm going about it wrong (I'm open to changing some things).

    For example, I've never set the expectation at the beginning; but I'm going to try later today.

    I'm not an asshole to the provider, ever. Even when I've terminated service prematurely, I've done so in a direct but non-confrontational manner.

    However, friends and colleagues have historically referred to my character as rather cold. Assuming that I cannot alter my character, is there anything else I can do differently?

  6. #9201

    Waycross

    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy777  [View Original Post]
    One of the AMPs that was shut down on Beechmont by the do gooders is now a smoke / vape shop. Speaking of irony.
    The AMP on RT42 in Florence was shut down in December is now tobacco / vape store. Hey can I get a HE. No its illeagle. Ok can I buy some poison or tobacco so I an get cancer sure come on in.

  7. #9200

    Waycross

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldPilot  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.
    One of the AMPs that was shut down on Beechmont by the do gooders is now a smoke / vape shop. Speaking of irony.

  8. #9199

    Waycross

    Stopped by Waycross today and it has gone from Massage to A Church. What is the the world going too. WOW.

  9. #9198

    My 2 cents

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Trust me. I have played the math in my head multiple times. Unfortunately, there are two factors which have almost made me a massage person:

    2. I have partaken in most of the QV offerings here and the locations and quality of the providers leave much to be desired.

    3. The risk of being caught at an AMP is much lower than being caught in a sting escort situation. My own assessment of course.

    Peace.

    Ob.
    There were a number of posts here that would have suitable for a response but I really liked OB's so here you go.

    This is only for a little perspective so take it as you wish.

    1st there are only a few places that I visit which allows for a bit of familiarity which really helps in this hobby. For me I visit only 4 which I will probably reduce to 3 as I think kabout it writing this. Choose the place you like / feel comfortable from everything to inside logistics, cleanliness and vibe.

    2nd I keep a very simple menu: 30 min if no massage 60 min if I want a little massage.

    3rd My tipping is up front discussion showing the money: . 4 for HE.

    8 for CBJ or $ for / if GFE.

    1. 4 for CFS or 1. 6 for / if GFE.

    I get access to top and bottom before taking my clothes off to set the expectations.

    4th Treat them like a lovely lady not a pickup. This will take you a long way. That's why I don't do other sidelines.

    I happen to be attracted to Asians and find that they can be clean, safe and offer GFE if you reciprocate. Hence the small number.

    Anyway, just my 2 cents to give back to a hobby that I find interesting and satisfying.

    Be good. Stay safe.

  10. #9197

    Good service

    Greetings! Will be up this way in a few weeks and wanted to ask for some recommendations for a good AMP in the area. I prefer a discrete entrance or parking lot (if possible), good massage and good HE or FS if an option. I don't really care what the ladies look like if the service is great LOL. Feel free to pm if you like and if any of you venture down to the capital, I can gladly repay the favor. Thanks and stay safe out there!

  11. #9196
    Senior Member


    Posts: 120

    Hong

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    My point was that, while it might be a reflection on my horrible negotiation skills, my tipping over the last 3 years has not seen any escalation.

    For eg: I can clearly remember once that I was able to suck tits for. 4 tip (New girl, I was the first one and I rolled the dice). Since the days of EDEN, I have found that although HE has ranged from. 2 to. 4, I could never get anyone topless for less than. 6. Or I have never been able to suck tits for less than. 8.

    Trust me, I am not made of money but I have a threshold of how much arguing / begging I need to do to bring the tips down.

    If I am complicit in creating heartburn for other tippers, that is unfortunate but I am not apologetic.

    I also was validating, that it is ok to stop negotiations and get up. I do that for my thresholds.

    Peace.

    Ob.
    Thank you for the civil response. A couple months after they opened, I was getting a BBBJ HE for a $60 tip from some skinny new girl there. Maybe she just liked me, IDK. I've stopped going there PCE, Post Covid Era, as the price of admission is higher than seeing a provider that offers massages and any kind of finish I choose for less. I would venture a guess that whomever is anyones fav at Hong has more lips sucking their titles than your favorite working girl doing massages.

  12. #9195

    FS vs Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyDicky  [View Original Post]
    Hong was always nice because it was understood what the tip would be and there were no negotiations so no buzz kill. When you're looking at $ for 30 minutes with HE you might as well go to an escort where you'll get a full menu with no negotiations, crappy massage included if you ask. Hopefully Hong rethinks this increase. I know I'm not going back until it's reported that tips are back to normal.
    Trust me. I have played the math in my head multiple times. Unfortunately, there are two factors which have almost made me a massage person:

    1. I love massages. I actually see a legit MT twice a month and I pay her 175 for 120 minutes of massage. No extras. She massages pretty close to the boys, gets my glutes completely and I have ejaculated a few times during the session. I usually DIY after she leaves the room. And no, I am not sharing her details because she is not a provider but you can find her on massagebook.com. She is one of the top therapists there. I have been burned once in the past with a referral on her.

    2. I have partaken in most of the QV offerings here and the locations and quality of the providers leave much to be desired.

    3. The risk of being caught at an AMP is much lower than being caught in a sting escort situation. My own assessment of course.

    We all do what works for us. I have clarified this on the other post. My tipping at all the places has been predicted, even if you deem it inflated.

    Peace.

    Ob.

  13. #9194

    Tipping at Hong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rimme  [View Original Post]
    I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.

    It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.
    My point was that, while it might be a reflection on my horrible negotiation skills, my tipping over the last 3 years has not seen any escalation.

    For eg: I can clearly remember once that I was able to suck tits for. 4 tip (New girl, I was the first one and I rolled the dice). Since the days of EDEN, I have found that although HE has ranged from. 2 to. 4, I could never get anyone topless for less than. 6. Or I have never been able to suck tits for less than. 8.

    Trust me, I am not made of money but I have a threshold of how much arguing / begging I need to do to bring the tips down.

    If I am complicit in creating heartburn for other tippers, that is unfortunate but I am not apologetic.

    I also was validating, that it is ok to stop negotiations and get up. I do that for my thresholds.

    Peace.

    Ob.

  14. #9193
    Senior Member


    Posts: 120

    We've already lost

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.
    I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.

    It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.

  15. #9192

    My role in the Hong Tipping Fiasco

    I want to apologize to everyone on this board for what is happening at Hong. I certainly played a role in it, if I'm not the primary cause. I never, ever considered that my tipping habits would have this sort of downstream effect. I know, I know; I should have known: its not rocket science. I f-ed up. I don't know how to fix things, but I can promise you all that I will stop doing it, immediately.

    Again, I am sorry. I was a dumbass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.

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