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  1. #4527

    Picking up girls in bars

    A few years back before anyone heard of China virus, I wasn't looking but on two separate occasions came across average to slightly above average women leaving the Watering Hole and they accepted a ride home (theirs) from me. Sloppy blowjob with minimal damage. Both were fairly drunk. In most ways it was a lot better than anything I read here, considering aggravation, cost, "habit" and how the girls were friendly.

  2. #4526

    My thoughts

    Everyone has made a good point. My whole thing is, we should stop looking at these girls like they run a business, or are entrepreneurs. They're not. I've only been in this hobby for a year or so regularly. And I've seen most of what this city has to offer. And I can say, that the majority of them have a habit of some sort. Common sense would tell you that. Does that mean I haven't had good service from a "junkie. " No, of course I have. I've seen Cherry, and Melody. Both of them have a habit or two. But they have given me some of the best service I have ever received. So let's not degrade these women, because they have a habit. They have proven you can provide good service even being on drugs. And yes, of course I want them to get help. But that habit didn't make them bad people, or provide B.S. service. They are good people who just have an addiction. Some of these girls are bad to their cores, with or without a habit. They'll rob you, or give terrible service. Because they don't care about people to begin with, and clients in this case. They're going to get that money by any means necessary. All they need is new puppets every day to fall for it. Addiction affects everyone differently. I only degrade the ones who have ripped guys off, and robbed fellow mongers. Because their behavior needs to be brought to the light. Which is why this forum is great. Because you can come here, and found out reliable info about a girl before trying her out. And yes, do your research. If a hotel has terrible reviews. You may want to stay away from there. Nothing good will come from it. I promise you. And I agree with Shooter. We need some sort of advertising to get all hobbyists to join this forum. So we can prevent mongers from seeing these terrible providers like Lunah, Jess, Special Kay / Kendra, etc.

    As far as paying for premium girls. Or going to bigger cities to play. Well yes, the quality in places like D. C. , Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, to name a few. Will always be better than here. Because the population in these places is bigger then here. More potential for girls to make more money. Who have no habits, about their money, who just want to play. While making some side money. Outside of Bella and her girls, Alyse, Danny, Jenn. We won't see girls like that here. Roanoke is made up of doctors and nurses. Who if we really think about. Their not going to venture in this hobby. Why should they. They don't need it like that. Unless they go the Sugar daddy route. Where they can meet higher quality clients, who will splurge on them. And all they have to do is provide great service. Then they will get repeat customers, with steady money coming in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

    All I'm saying is let's narrow it down to the few good girls we have here, and forget the rest. The bad ones will go away at some point with no customers. We're going to have to travel to see some better quality girls, go the sugar daddy route, and do it the old fashioned way. Hit up some bars. I'm sure you will find some better quality there. These local girls aren't always you're only option. Remember UTR's aren't given to. They are found. There are girls out here, who want to play, but just haven't been introduced to idea of the hobby yet. Keep that in mind when you're out and about searching. Safe hunting.

  3. #4525

    Missing my point

    Quote Originally Posted by SirMob  [View Original Post]
    Of course they are ripping guys off for a quick 100 and that is suitable enough for quite a few of them. But lets be honest, some of these women who are fairly nice looking are squandering money, no matter how we spin it. It is what it is, but my assessment is providers like Jess and Bad choose to operate in a way in which they more than likely get very few repeat customers, which leads to them posting their ad dozens of times per week, which means a bunch of new customers, which means an increased risk of bad things happening, such as stings, violent visitors, or guys who refuse to pay. Some of this areas good providers rarely post their ad. The reason for that is they have provided decent enough service to where they have regulars, therefore reducing the aforementioned risks. Several weeks back I saw someone ask about a certain provider and their opinion was she was out the game. Well, she is in fact very much in the game, she just doesn't post her ad, but she responds to her regulars. She once told me that new customers are a hassle because they often flake themselves. I guess this comes down to which is easier for these women, providing good service twice a day at higher rates many would be willing to pay while getting what they hate to do out the way or seeing five or six guys a day while trying to do as little as possible and dealing with whatever confrontations comes with ripping guys off. But the issue with ripping guys off is one day these women are going to eventually deal with a man who just isn't going to take it.

    Also, I am not thinking of these women as pornstars, I am thinking of these women as people who are offering a service. Any visit to good provider in a bigger city would highlight the opposite ends of the hobby and the difference in approach to their business. Good big city providers are turned on by money, therefore they aim to provide the best service as possible while hosting at fine hotels no matter if they like you or not. I could go into my escapades in bigger cities, but I will just highlight one. While visiting a bigger city, I saw what I consider one of the most beautiful women I have ever laid eyes on. Her performance was a ten, face a ten, body a ten. The provider I am referring to very much operates as if she's running a business and conversations just before I left led me to believe she values repeat customers and wants them back, which is a great business model no matter the service providing. I will continue to say that some of the better looking women in Roanoke are indeed allowing good money to escape their hands.
    Yeah absolutely. I don't disagree with you. My point is you're looking at from a perspective most of these girls don't. Yeah they're definitely squandering money. But It's business to them not a business to them. They're looking to survive each day. That's it. You can't compare one provider with another. I get what you're saying and it's a logical way of thinking but the life most are living isn't logical. A bigger city isn't comparable at all. This isn't a bigger city. Not sure where you are referring to. But there's a higher cost of living most times. More good, clean, legit providers. More mongers. More money to be made. So more of an effort made to provide good service. And repeat customers. Most girls value repeat customers who they think can provide for them. And who they trust and treat them well. No doubt most legit girls look for those things. All I am saying is understand who you're seeing. You can't expect to get things you get from certain providers with every provider no matter what sense it makes.

  4. #4524

    Squandering

    Quote Originally Posted by Uva1985  [View Original Post]
    I continue to see stuff like this written all the time. You're overthinking it my man. And You're giving these girls way too little credit. Why would these girls go get a job? She just played a poor guy out of 100 for really nothing. And I am going to go out on a limb and say there are many more just like him. These girls are addicts who are just trying to survive. Period. These are girls with a ton of mental health issues that more than likely struggle to even live with themselves doing these things. And have to be high to even get through it. You're simplifying it to a "squandering money cause they won't fully commit" type of thing. It has nothing to do with it. They're aren't trying to run a business. They're trying to make enough money to survive everyday. You're thinking of these girls as pornstars who just love to have sex all the time. 99% don't. It's something that's a part of the street life unfortunately and it's sad. Most of these girls aren't capable of even holding a job. So they turn to this. I will never see a girl that I know is using. I can't do it. These girls need help. Not guys like us enabling them just to get off. It's just killing them in the end.
    Of course they are ripping guys off for a quick 100 and that is suitable enough for quite a few of them. But lets be honest, some of these women who are fairly nice looking are squandering money, no matter how we spin it. It is what it is, but my assessment is providers like Jess and Bad choose to operate in a way in which they more than likely get very few repeat customers, which leads to them posting their ad dozens of times per week, which means a bunch of new customers, which means an increased risk of bad things happening, such as stings, violent visitors, or guys who refuse to pay. Some of this areas good providers rarely post their ad. The reason for that is they have provided decent enough service to where they have regulars, therefore reducing the aforementioned risks. Several weeks back I saw someone ask about a certain provider and their opinion was she was out the game. Well, she is in fact very much in the game, she just doesn't post her ad, but she responds to her regulars. She once told me that new customers are a hassle because they often flake themselves. I guess this comes down to which is easier for these women, providing good service twice a day at higher rates many would be willing to pay while getting what they hate to do out the way or seeing five or six guys a day while trying to do as little as possible and dealing with whatever confrontations comes with ripping guys off. But the issue with ripping guys off is one day these women are going to eventually deal with a man who just isn't going to take it.

    Also, I am not thinking of these women as pornstars, I am thinking of these women as people who are offering a service. Any visit to good provider in a bigger city would highlight the opposite ends of the hobby and the difference in approach to their business. Good big city providers are turned on by money, therefore they aim to provide the best service as possible while hosting at fine hotels no matter if they like you or not. I could go into my escapades in bigger cities, but I will just highlight one. While visiting a bigger city, I saw what I consider one of the most beautiful women I have ever laid eyes on. Her performance was a ten, face a ten, body a ten. The provider I am referring to very much operates as if she's running a business and conversations just before I left led me to believe she values repeat customers and wants them back, which is a great business model no matter the service providing. I will continue to say that some of the better looking women in Roanoke are indeed allowing good money to escape their hands.

  5. #4523

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAvenger  [View Original Post]
    Why must we go on with this Soap box drama about why these girls do what they do. We know why venture into this hobby. Because majority of these girls, have no job, no reliable income, mental issues, monkey's on their backs. And the ones that none of that applies to. Like Alyse, Bella and her girls, Danny, Faith, Jenn. Love what they do, have other means of income, and only do this as a side hustle. They're not trying to run a business. They know they are the business. You say you won't see a girl who is using. Fine, do you sir. But what they do with the money after the session is irrelevant to me. I come to have a good time, hopefully they have a good time. Get that release, and move on. Maybe to repeat. Let's just see some girls, report back with some good info. To help are fellow mongers out. Like a monger just recently had a good experience with a girl. So let's not continually drag this out and try to be some honorary Black Knight trying to save a girl from the street life. We all have our reasons for joining this hobby. See some girls, and have a good time. I know I will. Safe hunting. Peace out.
    I could care less what any man does. You should maybe try that as well my friend. I struggled with addiction for a while. So most of these girls I know or at least know of. So I can promise I have a better perspective on it than you. So I am just giving my own two cents cause I constantly see the same thing written over and over. And it's hypocritical. The same people who share your view are the same people who run to post about a "junkie" girl who is nasty and ripped them off. They aren't separate issues. There's a direct correlation LOL. My whole entire point was not to discourage anyone. Do you. My entire point was stop with all these naive posts. It's why I posted in the first place cause it's exhausting to read LOL. If you understand all these things already and it's "tiring. " Then you should understand it's a crapshoot when you're seeing girls under those circumstances. So stop degrading these girls if you don't care what they're spending there money on. Cause I can promise you what they're spending their money on has a direct correlation to the services you receive. Maybe give that some thought. But yeah do. Just don't come complaining when it something does happen to you. You already get it right?

  6. #4522

    Absolutely

    Quote Originally Posted by CobraGuy  [View Original Post]
    Excellent response and commentary. Mongers say the girls "won't commit to the business" - what business? Are they licensed? Pay taxes? They do what they have to do to get through the day. They have no "connection" to you unless you are the provider of their monkey food. They only want your $$$ and know they really don't have to do much of anything for it. What are you going to do about it? Not a damn thing. They have handlers who will threaten and intimidate you if you balk. You a tough guy? Go ahead and make a point. The cops are not coming to these known locations without taking somebody with them when they leave. Lay with the dogs and you get the fleas (or worse). Save up for a good experience with a quality provider and you will be here praising her instead of bitching about getting ripped off by a nasty street junkie.
    Yeah couldn't agree more with everything you said. And most of these girls don't even have "handlers" per say. Maybe a select few but not many. And the police are going to do nothing at all LOL. If you put yourself in those situations and environments I promise you they will have no sympathy for you. I just don't get it. I mean why would guys want to even pay to see these girls. I am not judging anyone for their taste in what they like in a girl physically but these junkie girls. That's different. I mean 100 bills ain't small money to me anyway. If I am paying 100-200 on a girl it sure as hell ain't going to be any of these junkie girls at days inn or Knights. Just surprising how many guys I continue to see complaining about what happens to them when they are putting themselves in these situations. And if you're not sure about a motel cause you're unfamiliar with the area maybe do a quick google search. I promise you after you read the reviews you'll have an idea after that. To each their own but like I said I personally can't do it. For my own sake. And the girls. It's not good for anyone.

  7. #4521

    Well said

    Quote Originally Posted by CobraGuy  [View Original Post]
    Excellent response and commentary. Mongers say the girls "won't commit to the business" - what business? Are they licensed? Pay taxes? They do what they have to do to get through the day. They have no "connection" to you unless you are the provider of their monkey food. They only want your $$$ and know they really don't have to do much of anything for it. What are you going to do about it? Not a damn thing. They have handlers who will threaten and intimidate you if you balk. You a tough guy? Go ahead and make a point. The cops are not coming to these known locations without taking somebody with them when they leave. Lay with the dogs and you get the fleas (or worse). Save up for a good experience with a quality provider and you will be here praising her instead of bitching about getting ripped off by a nasty street junkie.
    In the long run you well actually waste time and money shopping in the bargain bin.

  8. #4520
    Quote Originally Posted by Uva1985  [View Original Post]
    I continue to see stuff like this written all the time. You're overthinking it my man. And You're giving these girls way too little credit. Why would these girls go get a job? She just played a poor guy out of 100 for really nothing. And I am going to go out on a limb and say there are many more just like him. These girls are addicts who are just trying to survive. Period. These are girls with a ton of mental health issues that more than likely struggle to even live with themselves doing these things. And have to be high to even get through it. You're simplifying it to a "squandering money cause they won't fully commit" type of thing. It has nothing to do with it. They're aren't trying to run a business. They're trying to make enough money to survive everyday. You're thinking of these girls as pornstars who just love to have sex all the time. 99% don't. It's something that's a part of the street life unfortunately and it's sad. Most of these girls aren't capable of even holding a job. So they turn to this. I will never see a girl that I know is using. I can't do it. These girls need help. Not guys like us enabling them just to get off. It's just killing them in the end.
    Excellent response and commentary. Mongers say the girls "won't commit to the business" - what business? Are they licensed? Pay taxes? They do what they have to do to get through the day. They have no "connection" to you unless you are the provider of their monkey food. They only want your $$$ and know they really don't have to do much of anything for it. What are you going to do about it? Not a damn thing. They have handlers who will threaten and intimidate you if you balk. You a tough guy? Go ahead and make a point. The cops are not coming to these known locations without taking somebody with them when they leave. Lay with the dogs and you get the fleas (or worse). Save up for a good experience with a quality provider and you will be here praising her instead of bitching about getting ripped off by a nasty street junkie.

  9. #4519

    Come on people

    Quote Originally Posted by SirMob  [View Original Post]
    Nothing like a decent looking woman squandering lots of money because she doesn't want to fully commit to the business. I have seen her FB page and she does look okay, but reviews here are all negative. I guess she tries to come up with a different hustle each day to screw guys out of money, but she does have potential to earn quite a bit if she were get away from that dump and actually deliver services. This is not hard, if these women do not want to do this, go get a freaking job.
    I continue to see stuff like this written all the time. You're overthinking it my man. And You're giving these girls way too little credit. Why would these girls go get a job? She just played a poor guy out of 100 for really nothing. And I am going to go out on a limb and say there are many more just like him. These girls are addicts who are just trying to survive. Period. These are girls with a ton of mental health issues that more than likely struggle to even live with themselves doing these things. And have to be high to even get through it. You're simplifying it to a "squandering money cause they won't fully commit" type of thing. It has nothing to do with it. They're aren't trying to run a business. They're trying to make enough money to survive everyday. You're thinking of these girls as pornstars who just love to have sex all the time. 99% don't. It's something that's a part of the street life unfortunately and it's sad. Most of these girls aren't capable of even holding a job. So they turn to this. I will never see a girl that I know is using. I can't do it. These girls need help. Not guys like us enabling them just to get off. It's just killing them in the end.

  10. #4518

    Sweet sexy red head ready for you

    I dreamed of a girl named Jess. As always YMMV. She's new to the game. I decided to get a room, and have her come to me. To avoid any shenanigans. Well when she showed up. I was pleasantly surprised that she is the girl in the photos. Mid 30's. Doesn't look bad either. Decent looking in the face. Body-wise. Perky little titties. Nice bottom. It's not phat, but there's something there. No missing teeth either. She does smoke but didn't bother me. Didn't leave smelling like it. Okay, down to business. We start with some excellent BBBJ action. Face fucked the hell out of her. LOL. Start with mish. I could definitely tell she was into it. Switch to side mish. Then I get her on top for some cg action. And after, she gives me some more BJ action. Almost nutted in her mouth. Pound her out in doggy. Then finish with her on top. Performance wise, she couldn't go too long in cg or doggy. Needs some calls under her belt. Lol. She's a nice lady. I say goodbye, and go on my way. Damage was 200 for hour, factor in me paying for room. She seems willing to negotiate on her rates. Keep that in mind. Overall I had a good time. She had a good attitude. And she was willing to please. I did not partake in any GFE. That's not really my thing on first meet. So you want to see what's all on her menu. No sign of a monkey, but who knows what these girls do behind closed doors. Either way, had a good session. Would recommend, and will repeat. Safe hunting.

    https://roanoke.skipthegames.com/fem...r/918127208991

  11. #4517

    Jess

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter1701  [View Original Post]
    It's really sad, because if Lunah here and Princess Jess would simply clean up their acts and at least put forth the appearance of enjoying (or at least tolerating) the life that they have chosen, they could soak up pretty much every available dollar from Radford to Danville to Charlottesville. I will never understand why they refuse to embrace what they have been doing for years.

    And here is some valuable advice for the new guys here. If a provider posts ads more than once or twice a week, then there is a serious problem with the service. If they were really good at what they do, they wouldn't have to constantly market themselves on STG / BPG / OBP. The good providers put themselves out there long enough to get some regulars and get us to do the advertising work for them.

    We should really take a page out of their book and get one of us with some marketing experience to run ads on the various sites to direct the gents who don't know about this site here. That way everyone would be aware of the BS that some of these girls pull and we might have a chance of regaining control of the market and making this area a little more palatable like other areas in the country.

    Safe Hunting gents.

    Special thanks to BuddyLove92 and DarkAvenger for doing the leg work and letting us know that the 2 new girls this week aren't worth wasting time and money on.
    Just from the texts I've gotten from Jess, she thinks any man that has to pay for sex must be the lowest form of life. Therein lies the problem, that might explain why, not just her, but other providers want the money, but don't want to do the deed. As you know Jess is also a regular thief. Her and her "husband" have a system set up to rob anyone coming to see her. If the Roanoke City Courts open back up, you can go see her in person, she is in front of the judge for shoplifting on Sept 1st.

  12. #4516

    Relieved

    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerSixNine  [View Original Post]
    Made the mistake of trying her out. It was bad. I figured as long as I had been seeing her ads she must do something decent. Her backside pics looked good as well. She advertises fun, but no fun was had.

    https://roanoke.skipthegames.com/fem...n/595206063360

    To start off she was dirty mess, not made up in any way. I should have known from the hotel but not being from Roanoke I am quickly learning my lesson. It was a total dump. The room had drug parafinellia left about. I'm not anti-drug but damn put the stuff away at least.

    Things started off decent and I thought her body was decent, thin and decent curves. It started to go bad when she didn't want me to touch her or lay on top of her. I thought that was really weird. She was complaining about her back hurting as well. I offered a back rub but she said it hurt to be touched. Things go worse when the blood started flowing. Yeah it was her period and and blood was all over the condom. I said hang on let me wash off real quick and you can finish me off with BJ, which was covered by the way. When I got out the 30 second shower she was curled up in a ball and that was it. She said her back hurt too much and she didn't like BJ. She said she would give me a BJ again but didn't want to do it very long she didn't like doing it. I have never heard such things before and told her I think your in the wrong business. I asked for half the $100 I paid to be returned to me as we agreed on $100 for 30 minutes. She didn't respond to that. I finally got my cloths on and left. Her sister and sisters boyfriend were outside the room standing around and I greeted them to no response. I felt in danger at that point and high tailed it out of there.

    I can't remember the name of the hotel its just down from Sheetz a real dump basically all locals. It was stupid of me to put myself in that situation especially after being robbed not too long ago. Its just not worth it and I'm not going to chance it anymore with low-end providers. At least I am going to try and stick to that. My plan was to see Heather for the 3rd time but the long gap between messages and hours it takes from first message to arrival I just couldn't deal with.

    I give her body / looks a 5. 5/10 - made up and cleaned up she could be 6. 5/10. The overall experience a 2/10 being that I didn't get what I came for and overall was not good, a 1/10 would be the robbery setup I experienced.

    YMMV and in a different hotel, cleaned and made up, and providing the services as advertised things could have been different she's got potential. I would never take that chance again and my reccomendation is avoid this one.
    This is one who ghosted me about a month ago. Guess I should be glad I never made it past the parking lot.

  13. #4515

    Preach

    Quote Originally Posted by SirMob  [View Original Post]
    Nothing like a decent looking woman squandering lots of money because she doesn't want to fully commit to the business. I have seen her FB page and she does look okay, but reviews here are all negative. I guess she tries to come up with a different hustle each day to screw guys out of money, but she does have potential to earn quite a bit if she were get away from that dump and actually deliver services. This is not hard, if these women do not want to do this, go get a freaking job.
    It's really sad, because if Lunah here and Princess Jess would simply clean up their acts and at least put forth the appearance of enjoying (or at least tolerating) the life that they have chosen, they could soak up pretty much every available dollar from Radford to Danville to Charlottesville. I will never understand why they refuse to embrace what they have been doing for years.

    And here is some valuable advice for the new guys here. If a provider posts ads more than once or twice a week, then there is a serious problem with the service. If they were really good at what they do, they wouldn't have to constantly market themselves on STG / BPG / OBP. The good providers put themselves out there long enough to get some regulars and get us to do the advertising work for them.

    We should really take a page out of their book and get one of us with some marketing experience to run ads on the various sites to direct the gents who don't know about this site here. That way everyone would be aware of the BS that some of these girls pull and we might have a chance of regaining control of the market and making this area a little more palatable like other areas in the country.

    Safe Hunting gents.

    Special thanks to BuddyLove92 and DarkAvenger for doing the leg work and letting us know that the 2 new girls this week aren't worth wasting time and money on.

  14. #4514

    Squandering

    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerSixNine  [View Original Post]
    Made the mistake of trying her out. It was bad. I figured as long as I had been seeing her ads she must do something decent. Her backside pics looked good as well. She advertises fun, but no fun was had.

    https://roanoke.skipthegames.com/fem...n/595206063360

    To start off she was dirty mess, not made up in any way. I should have known from the hotel but not being from Roanoke I am quickly learning my lesson. It was a total dump. The room had drug parafinellia left about. I'm not anti-drug but damn put the stuff away at least.

    Things started off decent and I thought her body was decent, thin and decent curves. It started to go bad when she didn't want me to touch her or lay on top of her. I thought that was really weird. She was complaining about her back hurting as well. I offered a back rub but she said it hurt to be touched. Things go worse when the blood started flowing. Yeah it was her period and and blood was all over the condom. I said hang on let me wash off real quick and you can finish me off with BJ, which was covered by the way. When I got out the 30 second shower she was curled up in a ball and that was it. She said her back hurt too much and she didn't like BJ. She said she would give me a BJ again but didn't want to do it very long she didn't like doing it. I have never heard such things before and told her I think your in the wrong business. I asked for half the $100 I paid to be returned to me as we agreed on $100 for 30 minutes. She didn't respond to that. I finally got my cloths on and left. Her sister and sisters boyfriend were outside the room standing around and I greeted them to no response. I felt in danger at that point and high tailed it out of there.

    I can't remember the name of the hotel its just down from Sheetz a real dump basically all locals. It was stupid of me to put myself in that situation especially after being robbed not too long ago. Its just not worth it and I'm not going to chance it anymore with low-end providers. At least I am going to try and stick to that. My plan was to see Heather for the 3rd time but the long gap between messages and hours it takes from first message to arrival I just couldn't deal with.

    I give her body / looks a 5. 5/10 - made up and cleaned up she could be 6. 5/10. The overall experience a 2/10 being that I didn't get what I came for and overall was not good, a 1/10 would be the robbery setup I experienced.

    YMMV and in a different hotel, cleaned and made up, and providing the services as advertised things could have been different she's got potential. I would never take that chance again and my reccomendation is avoid this one.
    Nothing like a decent looking woman squandering lots of money because she doesn't want to fully commit to the business. I have seen her FB page and she does look okay, but reviews here are all negative. I guess she tries to come up with a different hustle each day to screw guys out of money, but she does have potential to earn quite a bit if she were get away from that dump and actually deliver services. This is not hard, if these women do not want to do this, go get a freaking job.

  15. #4513

    Milf

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyRob  [View Original Post]
    I dreamed of MILF Saturday she is very sexy and will do whatever you want. But she is definitely not 42 more like 52.
    I just realized that the link I provided was dead. This is the lady I believe he is referring to. Only he can speak to that though. Sorry about that.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/milf/26297972

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