What in the fuck are you talking about?

[Rizzo3927]

YOU. Don't. KNOW. SHIT. ABOUT. ME and what I've been through in my life. Everyone of us has had an experience with death in some form another.

Read a Readers Digest article where this firefighter told the story of walking into a house with ax in hand, saw a man laying on the ground. He said his skin was dripping from his body like liquid. He said the man begged him to kill him with his ax.

Robert Gleason was a hit man who was convicted and sentenced to life without parole. He WANTED the death penalty. He said he didn't want to be locked in a cage for the rest of his life. The courts told him, he couldn't decide his own fate. Guess what, he killed two more people in prison until they finally gave him the death penalty.

Like I said, there are some fates worse than death and it's all relative.

You need to learn when too shut the pie hole.

[TheMechanik365]

Let me see you carry someone 15 miles through the jungle knowing that they are dead because the back half of their skull is missing. You don't know shit about death. It's nothing but bad.

YOU. Don't. KNOW. SHIT. ABOUT. ME and what I've been through in my life. Everyone of us has had an experience with death in some form another.

Read a Readers Digest article where this firefighter told the story of walking into a house with ax in hand, saw a man laying on the ground. He said his skin was dripping from his body like liquid. He said the man begged him to kill him with his ax.

Robert Gleason was a hit man who was convicted and sentenced to life without parole. He WANTED the death penalty. He said he didn't want to be locked in a cage for the rest of his life. The courts told him, he couldn't decide his own fate. Guess what, he killed two more people in prison until they finally gave him the death penalty.

Like I said, there are some fates worse than death and it's all relative.

[PokerJack1]

Let me see you carry someone 15 miles through the jungle knowing that they are dead because the back half of their skull is missing. You don't know shit about death. It's nothing but bad

Dick measuring contests by keyboard warriors. Yay!

[Rizzo3927]

You don't know shit about me.

There are hundreds of people, every day that commit suicide, that says different.

Let someone torture you and then tell me if death isn't better. Suffer with the pain of cancer or MS or some other horrible disease and then tell me if death isn't better. Dr. Kervokian made his name assisting suicides for people, who decided death was a better option than living the way they were.

There are fates worse than death.

Let me see you carry someone 15 miles through the jungle knowing that they are dead because the back half of their skull is missing. You don't know shit about death. It's nothing but bad.

[John HandCock]

You guys still arguing over whether to carry? Pretty simple do or don't. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Do what's right for you and quit trying to change someone's mind. It's like talking to the wall if you haven't figured it out. Either way it's entertaining, specially if you make the news. I can see the headlines. Monger robbed while visiting local prostitute or monger on trial for killing local pimp. Either way it's entertaining.

[TheMechanik365]

Your statement tells me you've never been in someone's sights with the chance of dying. Or you wouldn't say that. There is nothing worse than being dead. Period!

You don't know shit about me.

There are hundreds of people, every day that commit suicide, that says different.

Let someone torture you and then tell me if death isn't better. Suffer with the pain of cancer or MS or some other horrible disease and then tell me if death isn't better. Dr. Kervokian made his name assisting suicides for people, who decided death was a better option than living the way they were.

There are fates worse than death.

[Nickclt]

No, you're not sparing them shame either way. However, I think people throw that judged by 12 shit so cavalierly around. When your family, friends, job and that CWP are history and you're looking at 10-15, it's easier to throw that macho statement around on the internet.

Again, something's in life will make you wish you were dead.

You know that wish can easily be solved. Unless your religion prohibits it or something.

[Rizzo3927]

You, who don't know shit about me. Oh, the irony. 😂.

Your statement tells me you've never been in someone's sights with the chance of dying. Or you wouldn't say that. There is nothing worse than being dead. Period!

[TheMechanik365]

It's not like you're sparing your family any shame by being gunned down in a shady motel. There's only 2 things you can possibly be there for. Pussy or drugs. To them you either live as a creep or die as one, at least for the former you have the option.

No, you're not sparing them shame either way. However, I think people throw that judged by 12 shit so cavalierly around. When your family, friends, job and that CWP are history and you're looking at 10-15, it's easier to throw that macho statement around on the internet.

Again, something's in life will make you wish you were dead.

[TheMechanik365]

Say's the guy that has never faced death.

You, who don't know shit about me. Oh, the irony. 😂.

[Nickclt]

Sounds great in theory, until you're in a courtroom facing considerable jail time, the disdain of your significant other, being disowned by your kids and being a pariah in the community.

There are some things worse than death...

It's not like you're sparing your family any shame by being gunned down in a shady motel. There's only 2 things you can possibly be there for. Pussy or drugs. To them you either live as a creep or die as one, at least for the former you have the option.

[Rizzo3927]

Sounds great in theory, until you're in a courtroom facing considerable jail time, the disdain of your significant other, being disowned by your kids and being a pariah in the community.

There are some things worse than death...

Say's the guy that has never faced death.

[TwoShots]

People can forget and forgive but death is so freaking permanent.

[TheMechanik365]

I have ccw & carry, but I agree with everything you said. Anyone carrying needs professional training, regular practice, & good sense. You should never pull your weapon to bluff, or to try & intimidate your way out of a situation that bad judgement got you in. I am among those that would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, but I would also rather give up my wallet than kill someone. For me it is the very last resort if I believe my LIFE is in jeopardy, NOT my wallet, honor, or dignity. I hope everyone stays safe out there, and be smart.

Sounds great in theory, until you're in a courtroom facing considerable jail time, the disdain of your significant other, being disowned by your kids and being a pariah in the community.

There are some things worse than death...

[Gator1961]

I have ccw & carry, but I agree with everything you said. Anyone carrying needs professional training, regular practice, & good sense. You should never pull your weapon to bluff, or to try & intimidate your way out of a situation that bad judgement got you in. I am among those that would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, but I would also rather give up my wallet than kill someone. For me it is the very last resort if I believe my LIFE is in jeopardy, NOT my wallet, honor, or dignity. I hope everyone stays safe out there, and be smart.

I just got my CCW about a year ago and I must admit I rarely carry. . . Never while in the hobby. Just have not yet gotten used to having a firearm on me or really even in close proximity. I really try to stay out of bad situations and definitely listen to my spidey senses as much as possible. . . An ounce of prevention. . .

I really got a lot out of this discussion. Thanks to all who contributed. Good advice.

Gator.