Massage Parlor Reports

[Zhuxi]

Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.

I've been saying the same thing.

On another note, a few reliable sources tell me the typical room and board for the girls is 400 a week, not a deduction of tips. Barely a dent in those finances.

Zhuxi

[Omeyer]

Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.

[Zhuxi]

As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family. Like the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.

I have heard that the 50 to 75 percent taken by the house is fairly rare. The few spa girls I have talked to outside or talked to about anything like this, point blank said they made good money. The fact of the matter is, a spa girl getting ripped off if not the norm, it is the exception now a days. And just to touch on another note, girls having to stay in the same spa for a month at a time or whatever, is not unheard of for work anyways. Check the guys who work on oil rigs, or on airliners. It is work, bottom line. I do not get in the game of feeling sorry for someone becuase they have to work. Many hot Korean girls (most AMP girls are Korean, to state the obvious) work shitty jobs and live with their parents making less then 20K a year. Work is work.
With the extremely high salary (untaxed) involving no education, comes sacrifices.

I like about 90 percent of the ladies I see, however, as a great man once said, seek fact from truth. I do not get into the game of feeling sorry for girls who wear 100 dollar mini skirts. Quite frankly it is not even venom, it is just business is business, and they do not feel sorry when your sexually deprived ass walks out the door either. They really don't ask for sympathy and neither do we (Or, should I say neither do I). Hm, must just be me.

Zhuxi

[NcMgr]

Just one Comment

[quote]As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family.

Just one Comment

Like the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.

[MoonView]

I have one comment and one question/report.

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

Does anyone know if this is(or was) the same Connie from the now closed CPHC in DC pre Black Wednesday? I called today for an appointment but was told she was on "vacation".

MnV

[Big Daddy Don]

My last post got a lot of response from you guys!! Everyone seems to have valid points.

I certainly do not think the girls have it on easy street. It would really take the fun out of it if I had to DATY and then lay ugly fat women all day every day!! BUT that is the life most of them have chosen and it is probably better life than they had.

I agree with the one poster, even if I have a bad time I just leave the tip and ask for someone different the next time. A few times I have felt too rushed or that the girl was rude, but usually it was just that we did not click or one of us had an off day. Just move on.

As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family.

Very similar conditions for immigrant workers who come from poor countries in seach of the all mighty dollar. It's just much easier to feel sorry for the pretty asian girl purring in your ear and stroking your fuck stick than to feel sorry for "Pedro" who is unshaven and reeks of fertilizer and beer who just spent all day busting his ass for the same amount of money that the girl made in 45 minutes.

Thanks for listening to the rant!! Bottom line is that it is risky for us all out there, providers and mongers alike. I just don't want to encourage a price hike in addition to the risks going up.

[Benefactor9]

Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.

Oh, that's just crazy talk right there.

[Jet Ranger]

I have one comment and one question/report.
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Welcome back to our nightmare. I wouldn't worry about Connie wanting to be quiet. The cardinal rule is that working girls aren't supposed to fall in love with their customers or go overboard faking passion with lots of moaning. We all have found women who seem to genuinely enjoy their time with us. You can be sure the girls talk about their special customers among themselves in the breakroom. Some don't care if they find a BF among their customers, but others are sensitive about being perceived as enjoying themselves "too much" at work.

Of course, with the bonafide fears of LE, most don't want adjoining tenants to hear anything "sexual" going on. Just go with it and don't worry about it. Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.

[Pcpc1688]

I have one comment and one question/report.

First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.

All I know is that the girls have physical needs too, and if 2 people click, its human nature isnt it?? After all, if they cum we feel like we accomplished something of a great feat and we get our male ego inflated...LOL I for one love to make a girl squeel, dont you?

Dont I wish to make that little spinner I saw today Dtown but the problem is if I make her feel too good, I may have to be her BF... Strangely enuff that has happened before.

PC out

[Mong678]

Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.

It is a place of business.

And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.

Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.

That is true, although I do want to hear her noises while I am with her, I sure wouldn't want to hear any of you guys next door to me while we were having a session.

I am tempted to make a trip South anyway but I am still a little leary of it. Wednesday would be a perfect day for me, but I'll admit it I'm a little freaked out with all the recent activity. Wish I knew of a few others that have been there recently without any problems.

[Drew Park]

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on?

Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.

It is a place of business.

And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.

Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.

[Saiyen]

http://www.secrettemptation.com/Beauties.html

I personally have not used there service but to me when I searched through TER it seemed like its a FBSM only. Happy hunting.

Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?

Any intel would be nice, pls PM me

PC out

[Pcpc1688]

Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?

Any intel would be nice, pls PM me

PC out

[Mong678]

I have one comment and one question/report.

First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.

[Jet Ranger]

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

Yes, some of the local hotel-based incall escort services have been hit with LE stings and shut down. Condos, as private residences, are probably harder for LE to get warrants for unless someone specifically complains about one to LE. Who is to say that you're specifically paying for sex? Unlike a place of business in a storefront, people can legally have consensual sex in residential buildings.

For example, when I visit one, I step inside, give the girl an envelope with the specified donation inside, and don't discuss any money for a specific act, sexual or otherwise. We just get down to fun and what transpires is a private manner between two consenting adults. Like in a storefront or business park AMP, if undercover LE comes in and starts to negotiate a specific price for a specific act, any smart girl will get nervous and not offer FS or other sexual services. If you read the massage ordnances I posted, residential massages are only allowed theoretically in the premises of the client.

I agree with Virile Vito. Many trends originate in California and I believe we will see more Korean girls starting AAMPs. Advertising will need to be very discreet, and like most of the Latino MPs that don't advertise openly and fly under the radar, they can stay open longer without LE or health department harassment.

Finally, this is not a hobby for the poor. Yes, $160 is a lot--it is less in some places, more in others, but most of the girls that get into this line of work know what they are getting into before they start, but are doing so to pay off debts they have incurred, earn money to care for their families, and sometimes support their extravagant lifestyle and spending habits.

The girls are always at risk and I always do my utmost to treat them kindly and with respect, especially those that are friendly and provide a GFE. I have become friends with several providers and they sacrifice a lot as Jeriholic described for what they earn.

My ATF spa girl (and a real friend who called me nearly every day) who previously worked at Downtown, Happiness, and Sun in DC; Philly; Waterbury, CT; and HWC among other places was presumably arrested on Black Wednesday at a suburban Pennsylvania AMP where she was working and I haven't heard from her since then. I can't imagine what she has been going through and two of her former co-workers I talked to about her at HWC are terrified at what may have happened to her. They know the same fate may be waiting for them.