Massage Parlor Reports

[Pcpc1688]

Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?

Any intel would be nice, pls PM me

PC out

[Mong678]

I have one comment and one question/report.

First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.

[Jet Ranger]

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

Yes, some of the local hotel-based incall escort services have been hit with LE stings and shut down. Condos, as private residences, are probably harder for LE to get warrants for unless someone specifically complains about one to LE. Who is to say that you're specifically paying for sex? Unlike a place of business in a storefront, people can legally have consensual sex in residential buildings.

For example, when I visit one, I step inside, give the girl an envelope with the specified donation inside, and don't discuss any money for a specific act, sexual or otherwise. We just get down to fun and what transpires is a private manner between two consenting adults. Like in a storefront or business park AMP, if undercover LE comes in and starts to negotiate a specific price for a specific act, any smart girl will get nervous and not offer FS or other sexual services. If you read the massage ordnances I posted, residential massages are only allowed theoretically in the premises of the client.

I agree with Virile Vito. Many trends originate in California and I believe we will see more Korean girls starting AAMPs. Advertising will need to be very discreet, and like most of the Latino MPs that don't advertise openly and fly under the radar, they can stay open longer without LE or health department harassment.

Finally, this is not a hobby for the poor. Yes, $160 is a lot--it is less in some places, more in others, but most of the girls that get into this line of work know what they are getting into before they start, but are doing so to pay off debts they have incurred, earn money to care for their families, and sometimes support their extravagant lifestyle and spending habits.

The girls are always at risk and I always do my utmost to treat them kindly and with respect, especially those that are friendly and provide a GFE. I have become friends with several providers and they sacrifice a lot as Jeriholic described for what they earn.

My ATF spa girl (and a real friend who called me nearly every day) who previously worked at Downtown, Happiness, and Sun in DC; Philly; Waterbury, CT; and HWC among other places was presumably arrested on Black Wednesday at a suburban Pennsylvania AMP where she was working and I haven't heard from her since then. I can't imagine what she has been going through and two of her former co-workers I talked to about her at HWC are terrified at what may have happened to her. They know the same fate may be waiting for them.

[Rejected Monke]

Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.

I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.

Commercial space costs more, but not that much more. A single girl working out of an apartment (or hotel) would definitely warrant a higher fee, unless you'd like to propose that four girls work in one apartment bringing in an obvious stream of strange gentlemen at all hours of the day.

Also, while I always appreciate a good bargain hunter, I don't think making a price cut or freebie card would make them money. I know various establishments have had VIP cards in the past, but I bet they actually lost money on those. As it stands, they have the same amount of customers with or without VIP cards.

[Jericoholic]

I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.

While I have no doubt the house makes a good profit, I decided to try to calculate just how much money a girl makes per hour.

From my conversation with these girls, $15000 in one month is a good haul. Based on normal spa hours of 10AM - 2PM and 30 days a month, that's 16 hours a day or 480 hours a month. That means essentially they're making $31.25 an hour or about the equivalent of a $65000 salary.

If we were to claim that their job is actually a 24/7 job (since they have to stay couped up in their little places), their hourly pay would actually be less than $21 and be the equivalent of $45000.

I think these numbers chip away at the myth that these girls live some sort of luxurious lifestyle. The only reason they may seem "wealthier" than you and I is two-fold: 1) They work hard. 2) They play hard.

Not only do they have to stay couped in some dark, danky place 24/7, but they're also sacrificing their bodies and youth. And yes, even those "nasty" 50-year old past-their-prime spa girls are sacrificing something physically, though it may not be considered as "precious" as a young, virgin womanhood.

I am no white knight, but I am a human being which is why I shake my head when I read the occasional post about some guy deciding not to leave tip, or leaving less than the standard amount due to "poor service". If you did the deed, just pay the damn $100 and don't come back. You're the same fuckface who eats the entire steak at a restaurant before complaining to the waiter it was undercooked and demanding it be on the house while making an obnoxious scene and making it awkward for the rest of the diners.

By the way, none of this was directed at you, Big Daddy Don. Your post just made me think a little.

[Virile Vito]

So while I have heard of Korean ladies in California who go independent, I don't think it is very common in the rest of the country and I think that when they do, they do it alone.

LexLuther

These days, Apartment AMPs (AAMPs) are pretty much the standard mode of operation for Korean providers in Northern California. I agree that it is rarely found elsewhere amongst Koreans (although, as you mentioned, there are more than a few Chinese apartment set-ups on the East Coast).

Although it was not the start of AAMPs, the massive West Coast Fed/ICE raids of July 2005 and the subsequent closure of dozens of San Francisco MPs led directly to the current AAMP boom in the SF Bay area. Thus, it might not be out of question for a similar change in climate in Northern VA and DC to lead to a similar change in MP MO.

Some of the SF Bay AAMPs are one-girl, independent places, but the better, larger spots usually feature 2-3 girls. Pricing is remarkably standardized.

Vito

[Big Daddy Don]

Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.

I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.

If I found a local, regular Asian incall girl (preferably Korean, Japanese, or Chinese) that charged $160 to $200 a session, delivered a consistent GFE for the agreed to time, and worked out of a condo, I would become a regular for sure and I'm sure many other guys would, too.

Perhaps the extra $40 a visit might reduce the frequency of my visits somewhat, but it sure beats getting written up in the local papers as being charged with frequenting a bawdy house!

I wasn't overly impressed with the McLean Chinese Condo, either. I felt that I was shortchanged on time when I visited. The girl was OK, but her hair reeked of nicotine.

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