MotorCity Mayhem

**Admin2** · 07-13-20 11:33

Originally Posted by Gwendy32 [View Original Post]

There's a lot more going on here than just the chances of live vs death: https://i.redd.it/jo26b3lcsha51.jpg.

Literally all of the points in that article are conjecture and hyperbole.

It's not 1% according to the CDC it's. 26% 1% is an increase by a factor of four but you know, details. It's also based on 1% of the total population, there has never, ever, in the history of the world been a disease that everybody gets.

It doesn't assume that you die or you're fine, as with all illnesses there are going to be a small fraction that develop co morbidity but there is no study, anywhere that says".

For every person that dies 18 will have permanent heart damage, 10 will have permanent lung damage, 3 will have strokes, ect. Show me a peer reviewed article that confirms those figures or he made it up just like Neil Ferguson made up the "2,000,000 will die number. " Seriously I would love to see the peer reviewed article published in a medical journal that confirms these numbers.

It's the mysterious LTR (Long Term Effects) claim for a disease that hasn't been around long enough to have any blind studies showing what possible LTR's there might be.

As to the economic fallout there are 150,000,000 people working right now, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says that around. 1% of the workforce is absent every day so that's 1.5 million absent from work everyday and the economy doesn't even notice.

All these articles are the same, if you just scratch them the slightest bit they all fall apart. This is nothing but fear mongering propaganda.

**Gwendy32** · 07-13-20 09:17

There's a lot more going on here than just the chances of live vs death: https://i.redd.it/jo26b3lcsha51.jpg.

**Nick6789** · 07-13-20 00:39

Every 30,000 Americans that die, you'll have to increase your death rate up by. 01% That is assuming worst case scenario of everybody being infected.

**Admin2** · 07-12-20 23:22

Originally Posted by PieBoy [View Original Post]

The 12% you refer to would have to be an annualized percent for your calculation to make sense. Secondly bluestone did not take into consideration The impact of furloughs (retaining medical coverage) and govt $600 weekly checks.

Good points, I'll cut it in half so it's only twice as many people as have died from corona.

Worldwide it will be in the tens of millions.

**PieBoy** · 07-12-20 21:12

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths.
A2.

The 12% you refer to would have to be an annualized percent for your calculation to make sense. Secondly bluestone did not take into consideration The impact of furloughs (retaining medical coverage) and govt $600 weekly checks.

**Concupiscent69** · 07-12-20 15:27

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

When there are really stupid people posting really stupid shit I move that to the fight thread to respond. Which is what this is.

As far as abusing my power, there are a couple issues with that. Mostly because my power, on this forum, is absolute there can be no abuse. I am literally above the law here because all the rules that there are here flow from my authority on this web site. You think it's abuse because you in less than a year you have managed to rack up 7 flags. If I cared enough to look I know you're somebody who has been banned several times because you just don't understand that this isn't your forum and there are rules you have to follow.

I doubt you will understand this but its how it works, it's why royalty were never subject to their own laws. I have no illusions that that power extends beyond this forum but it's the way it has to be here, there is one of me and 400,000 of you. We are ok with an element of anarchy but ultimately if the content isn't moderated the site loses utility and at the end of the day it's a business so it requires business decisions.

Hope that helps with the butthurt but like I said I doubt it will.

A2.

I'll now consider this issue dropped.

Thank you, you surprised me, I thought you were going to put up a long winder post continuing to justify your self entitled behavior. I wasn't expecting you to show this kind of class.

A2

**Zeek2120** · 07-12-20 14:27

Originally Posted by NickHalden7 [View Original Post]

Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?

Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.

I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.

The facts are the W. H. O is in bed with China. Fact is W. H. O knew about this and didn't tell the world. Now you want me to believe in these so called doctors and their facts. People die with the flu and no one protest burns citys or shuts the country down. I don't believe in modern day medicine. I suggest a big IF you get the virus and a vaccine comes please be smart and don't take it. Just because someone has the virus don't mean they are going to die. More people die of texting driving. Drunk driving opioids, gang banging and abortions and the left don't protest. Help me understand that pandemic I just stated. Keep washing hands and don't touch your nose or eat with dirty hands and you will be fine if you don't have any health issues. People are dying of health issues on this virus pandemic the flu or sars or aids would kill just the same with those with health issies. Just saying.

**Admin2** · 07-12-20 10:50

Originally Posted by NickHalden7 [View Original Post]

Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?

Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.

I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.

The entire world over, everywhere that covid has struck has had an over all 99.74% survival rate. With people under 20 that number is something like 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% yes I know CNN will always report on the one in 100,000,000 kid that died from this but statistically more kids will die going from home to school than will of the virus so exactly what proper precautions do kids who are demonstrably nearly immune to the effects of the virus need?

BTW the IFR rate by age group is a matter of fact so please respond with facts not with "if it saves one kid" because if that were true we wouldn't be starving them in the third world so folks like you could insist on the biggest demonstration of privilege in my lifetime.

99.74% overall survival rate is a fact yet team lockdown keeps comparing the virus to the plague.

Death rate in decline for 3 months is a fact which proves the greater number of cases is testing. Remember anti body testing in NY proved that over 3,000,000 people had and recovered from Covid in April. It was an easy story to miss because MSNBC and CNN went with "Trump tells people to inject bleach" instead of "Great News Covid not nearly as lethal as thought" when those studies were released.

Seriously, how do you answer that only 10% of the ICU beds in Travis County and 10% of the ICU beds in Harris County were taking up 12.5% of the ICU beds yet somehow it was Covid that was overwhelming the health care system. Those are straight up facts not open to debate.

It's not conspiracy theory to say that it wasn't unprecedented for NYC docs to be working in tents and using refrigerated trucks to deal with flu because there's a story in Time, published in 2018 saying they were doing the same thing.

Now this part is a little conspiracy theoryish. It's my contention that this will all be over on November 4th. You can argue with me all you want but I'm waiting to see what happens. It's also my contention that next year in April when the CDC releases the overall number of people who died in the US in 2020 it will be within 1% of the number who died in 2018 which was the last pandemic year. I'm not saying the number that died of, I'm talking about the total number of people who died and I'd bet 10 g's it's not going to have risen. I think that's the only number that will have any real meaning and no spin from 2020. If I'm wrong then I was wrong about the whole thing and I'll feel like an asshole but if I'm right and around 2.8 million people die this year then you are one of the people who pushed 400,000,000 million people back into extreme poverty the world over for nothing and you better get a second job to help the relief efforts because the amount of dying that is going to cause is going to take a decade to cure.

A2.

**Admin2** · 07-12-20 10:27

Originally Posted by Concupiscent69 [View Original Post]

I doubt you'll post this because you abuse your power. But tell me why you're allowed to reply with animosity and argumentative comments yet delete anyone else who does the same. As the message you provide when citing an infraction "Your recent report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth. The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Please stick to the subject" I guess it doesn't apply to you.

When there are really stupid people posting really stupid shit I move that to the fight thread to respond. Which is what this is.

As far as abusing my power, there are a couple issues with that. Mostly because my power, on this forum, is absolute there can be no abuse. I am literally above the law here because all the rules that there are here flow from my authority on this web site. You think it's abuse because you in less than a year you have managed to rack up 7 flags. If I cared enough to look I know you're somebody who has been banned several times because you just don't understand that this isn't your forum and there are rules you have to follow.

I doubt you will understand this but its how it works, it's why royalty were never subject to their own laws. I have no illusions that that power extends beyond this forum but it's the way it has to be here, there is one of me and 400,000 of you. We are ok with an element of anarchy but ultimately if the content isn't moderated the site loses utility and at the end of the day it's a business so it requires business decisions.

Hope that helps with the butthurt but like I said I doubt it will.

A2.

**Admin2** · 07-12-20 10:23

Originally Posted by HapHunter [View Original Post]

Well said A2!

Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.

Keep up the good work!

For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.

I'm a lifelong lefty, still am, always will be. Lots of lefty's have the ability to think critically. By painting this in red / blue terms, as those on the right are so quick to do with everything you remove any ability for discourse and perhaps a solution.

The posts I put up were fact based not politically motivated.

Sorry to disappoint you.

A2.

**NickHalden7** · 07-12-20 09:01

Originally Posted by HapHunter [View Original Post]

Well said A2!

Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.

Keep up the good work!

For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.

Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?

Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.

I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.

**Bpmfarhat** · 07-12-20 00:38

Originally Posted by HapHunter [View Original Post]

Well said A2!

Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.

Keep up the good work!

For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.

This whole covid 19 thing was started by Hillary Clinton and the Dems when they were raping kids in the basement of a pizza parlor that had no basement. And Mexico wrote a big fat check to pay for the wall. You can't make this stuff up. I will never listen to my MD again conspiracy nut cases know more than the Doctors. And oh yea more than the Generals. Pass me a tin foil hat. And you guys all know the earth is flat because you can't believe the scientist and experts ever.

LOL this is nut job central.

**Hap Hunter** · 07-11-20 23:27

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

Seriously the most humane way possible? Brother I know you think that is true but have you ever heard the saying that when the US Economy sniffles the rest of the world gets pneumonia?

This is the result of the covid mitigation and 30,000,000 lost jobs in the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coro...-globally.html Of the 400,000,000 people who have been forced back into extreme poverty what percentage do you think will be dead of starvation in the next year?

Here's another one, this is rght now in Colombia. About a week ago I heard the mayor of Medellin getting a handjob interview on NPR about what a great job he was doing because "only" 1000 people died. He was bloviating about how successful their safety net was being. Fucking liar. I know people there that are putting their kids to bed hungry every day now. And again 99.74% overall survival rate, I'm just going to keep saying that. 99.74%.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/w...nequality.html

If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths. As of now the US has had 120,000 deaths for people WITH covid and that has been clearly flat the last two month regardless of what CNN says. I guess my question is, do the 456,000 not count because they don't have the disease that MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC are talking about 24/7?

If you want to be humane then all those lives are important and we are killing them for a disease that has a 99.74% survival rate. This is the chart, daily deaths which are down. It took all the really sick people in March and April so them deaths have been on the decline. They are going to jump soon because people are looking at it and they will have to change some reporting standard like they did in mid April when there wasn't enough deaths s that all the states that tried to return to life can be "proven" reckless but there is no denying that it's been declining for two months.

I know some of you team lockdown guys are going to try and shame me but all of you will attack me personally because none of you have anything of value to say about the covid mitigation induced deaths that will be 10 x what covid would have been. All you have is "so every doctor. " blah blah fucking blah.

I can't wait for November when this all ends.

A2.

Well said A2!

Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.

Keep up the good work!

For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.

**Concupiscent69** · 07-11-20 23:17

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

And you're so fucking stupid you don't know that they drank the Kool aid in Jonestown not Jamestown.

Thanks for playing.

I doubt you'll post this because you abuse your power. But tell me why you're allowed to reply with animosity and argumentative comments yet delete anyone else who does the same. As the message you provide when citing an infraction "Your recent report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth. The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Please stick to the subject" I guess it doesn't apply to you.