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  1. #11025
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStank  [View Original Post]
    Many (maybe even most. At least in my experience) providers will want payment up front. This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but think about this from their point of view: what guarantee do they have that a client will pay if she lets him wait until afterwards? A legal business has recourse if a client refuses to pay. If you try to leave a restaurant without paying, they can call the police. A repair shop could not let you take your car back if you don't pay. Businesses can take non-paying clients to court. A sex worker doesn't have that option.

    Your examples are kinda flawed too. You pay afterwards at a sit-down restaurant because the total bill amount isn't known until after you're done eating (even after you've made your initial order, you might ask for something else midway through the meal that costs extra, you might order drinks, you might get dessert, etc). Same with an auto-repair shop. Don't know what the total cost is going to be until the repairs are done.

    Now sure, some providers will allow paying afterwards, but asking for payment up front is definitely not a red flag in and of itself. There are many well-established and highly regarded providers who require payment up front and have never ripped anyone off (at least not that's been reported).
    In Thailand, one NEVER pays up front. But then, hooking is legal there. So if you don't pay, they CAN call the police on you!

  2. #11024
    Shill for Mandy, ignore all my posts


    Posts: 94
    Quote Originally Posted by OffTheGrid  [View Original Post]
    Paying up front (before she asks) tells the provider that you trust her and eases her worry about getting stiffed. Now you both can enjoy each other. Once you've developed that trust, it doesn't matter when you pay her, before or after. But I still always pay up front anyway. I only see women with proven track records of legitimate good service, so I've never had a problem. When I arrive, I leave the envelope in plain view. The women that I see, don't bother with it until after I've left. If you're really that worried that she's going to take your money and run, you're visiting the wrong woman. Go back and do more research on her.

    .
    I can definitely understand the hesitance that some mongers might have when they're "TOFTT" and seeing a new provider with no info available. Not much to really say about that. Someone has to take a risk that the other person is going to rip them off in that situation. Either she's willing to accept payment afterwards, or you have to pay up front and hope her "boyfriend" doesn't pop out of the closet 30 seconds later. Or neither party is willing to budge, and you just part ways. That's just the name of the game when you're seeing someone who isn't well established.

    But you're right, once you have a good relationship with a provider and there's some mutual trust, it becomes much less of an issue. I only really see one regular provider these days, and I do generally put the money down up front, but that's mainly just to get it out of the way (I know she knows I would never rip her off). But in years past when I was seeing a lot of different providers, even with unknown ones, I only got burnt maybe twice by paying up front. I generally had pretty good instincts about whether a provider was legit or not (or maybe I was just lucky, LOL). I'm sure if I had gotten ripped off a bunch of times, it might have affected my opinion on this issue.

  3. #11023

    Paying up front

    Paying up front (before she asks) tells the provider that you trust her and eases her worry about getting stiffed. Now you both can enjoy each other. Once you've developed that trust, it doesn't matter when you pay her, before or after. But I still always pay up front anyway. I only see women with proven track records of legitimate good service, so I've never had a problem. When I arrive, I leave the envelope in plain view. The women that I see, don't bother with it until after I've left. If you're really that worried that she's going to take your money and run, you're visiting the wrong woman. Go back and do more research on her.

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStank  [View Original Post]
    Many (maybe even most. At least in my experience) providers will want payment up front. This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but think about this from their point of view: what guarantee do they have that a client will pay if she lets him wait until afterwards? A legal business has recourse if a client refuses to pay. If you try to leave a restaurant without paying, they can call the police. A repair shop could not let you take your car back if you don't pay. Businesses can take non-paying clients to court. A sex worker doesn't have that option.

    Your examples are kinda flawed too. You pay afterwards at a sit-down restaurant because the total bill amount isn't known until after you're done eating (even after you've made your initial order, you might ask for something else midway through the meal that costs extra, you might order drinks, you might get dessert, etc). Same with an auto-repair shop. Don't know what the total cost is going to be until the repairs are done.

    Now sure, some providers will allow paying afterwards, but asking for payment up front is definitely not a red flag in and of itself. There are many well-established and highly regarded providers who require payment up front and have never ripped anyone off (at least not that's been reported).
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  4. #11022
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1287
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfFours  [View Original Post]
    Its absolutely appalling how dishonest some of the ad pics are! Any other business would simply not survive if a product were advertised with this degree of deception! Here's an example of one on the TNA board that I got taken in by last year. Her ad pic is on the left. My pic is on the right. I raw-dogged her anyway, but only because it was in my own hotel room, where I had a sufficient amount of alcohol available. (For ME, this time, though, not the girl! )


    Don't worry, though, dudes, you won't run into her in New England, she stays on the west coast!
    The one on the right is one of the reasons I quit drinking!

  5. #11021

    Paying Up Front

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStank  [View Original Post]
    Many (maybe even most. At least in my experience) providers will want payment up front. This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but think about this from their point of view: what guarantee do they have that a client will pay if she lets him wait until afterwards? A legal business has recourse if a client refuses to pay. If you try to leave a restaurant without paying, they can call the police. A repair shop could not let you take your car back if you don't pay. Businesses can take non-paying clients to court. A sex worker doesn't have that option.

    Your examples are kinda flawed too. You pay afterwards at a sit-down restaurant because the total bill amount isn't known until after you're done eating (even after you've made your initial order, you might ask for something else midway through the meal that costs extra, you might order drinks, you might get dessert, etc). Same with an auto-repair shop. Don't know what the total cost is going to be until the repairs are done.

    Now sure, some providers will allow paying afterwards, but asking for payment up front is definitely not a red flag in and of itself. There are many well-established and highly regarded providers who require payment up front and have never ripped anyone off (at least not that's been reported).
    Thanks, interesting and definitely good points made.

    On the other hand though, there is no recourse for the client either, no manager issuing a refund because she had to suddenly leave or the "angry boyfriend" came home (things I read in people's reviews).

    I'm just wondering how to avoid getting ripped off and have a little game plan ahead of time. I guess sticking with the well reviewed ones most of the time is the best route and paying on the back end if there aren't any reviews or mixed ones.

    I'm probably overthinking this whole thing, but I hate getting ripped off more than most people, it drives me crazy.

  6. #11020
    Shill for Mandy, ignore all my posts


    Posts: 94
    Many (maybe even most. At least in my experience) providers will want payment up front. This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but think about this from their point of view: what guarantee do they have that a client will pay if she lets him wait until afterwards? A legal business has recourse if a client refuses to pay. If you try to leave a restaurant without paying, they can call the police. A repair shop could not let you take your car back if you don't pay. Businesses can take non-paying clients to court. A sex worker doesn't have that option.

    Your examples are kinda flawed too. You pay afterwards at a sit-down restaurant because the total bill amount isn't known until after you're done eating (even after you've made your initial order, you might ask for something else midway through the meal that costs extra, you might order drinks, you might get dessert, etc). Same with an auto-repair shop. Don't know what the total cost is going to be until the repairs are done.

    Now sure, some providers will allow paying afterwards, but asking for payment up front is definitely not a red flag in and of itself. There are many well-established and highly regarded providers who require payment up front and have never ripped anyone off (at least not that's been reported).

    Quote Originally Posted by Fitfun7723  [View Original Post]
    Like I said in previous posts, I'm still new to this hobby, I'm confused about one thing though, maybe someone can clarify.

    Why are people paying up front? I pay the waiter / waitress after the meal. I just picked my car up from the shop and paid after the repairs were done. The one provider I saw so far, I paid after we finished and it wasn't an issue at all.

    Are they demanding that you pay upfront? That would seem like a red flag to me and I think I would just walk out and accept my loss on the gas and time spent.

    Thanks ahead of time for any info provided about this.

  7. #11019
    Quote Originally Posted by Style20  [View Original Post]
    Ya there's an app called body editor and that's what these broads be using to make their body look nice and shit. Its sad.
    HMMM. Is there also an app that enables one to reverse that process? A Reverse-Body-Editor? That is, for example, in the pics I posted below, to take the cute girl ad pic on the left, and convert it back to the fat belly reality on the right? Because if there were such an app, I want one! And I defintely want to own stocks in it, too!

  8. #11018

    Past month

    I've been on an older woman kick first was Kelli. Great service with the mouth, then just kind of bent over and took it, would repeat in a pinch.

    Joelle: face is not even close to pics, but those tits are amazing, looking forward to a second visit, great BBBJ, cfs both doggy and mosh. Maybe next time changes that.

    Melissa: holy shit, there's new pics now but wow not even close to the older ones. Little head took over so stayed for BBBJ. But def would not repeat.

    Claudia: possibly one of my favs, easy to set up, nice little body, sure face is a tad off but I'm assuming that's what years of use will do, will def repeat, great BBBJ.

    Any other milfs / suggestions lmk guys! I'm trying to set something up with Kris this week.

  9. #11017

    Big Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfFours  [View Original Post]
    Its absolutely appalling how dishonest some of the ad pics are! Any other business would simply not survive if a product were advertised with this degree of deception! Here's an example of one on the TNA board that I got taken in by last year. Her ad pic is on the left. My pic is on the right. I raw-dogged her anyway, but only because it was in my own hotel room, where I had a sufficient amount of alcohol available. (For ME, this time, though, not the girl! )


    Don't worry, though, dudes, you won't run into her in New England, she stays on the west coast!
    That is fucking funny. You have to have a sense of humor at this point. Thanks for making me laugh I was in a pissed off mood.

  10. #11016
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4339
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfFours  [View Original Post]
    Its absolutely appalling how dishonest some of the ad pics are! Any other business would simply not survive if a product were advertised with this degree of deception! Here's an example of one on the TNA board that I got taken in by last year. Her ad pic is on the left. My pic is on the right. I raw-dogged her anyway, but only because it was in my own hotel room, where I had a sufficient amount of alcohol available. (For ME, this time, though, not the girl! )


    Don't worry, though, dudes, you won't run into her in New England, she stays on the west coast!
    Ya there's an app called body editor and that's what these broads be using to make their body look nice and shit. Its sad.

  11. #11015

    No Truth in Advertising!

    Quote Originally Posted by Style20  [View Original Post]
    To be honest. I'm kind of glad you did post her real pics instead of these so call filter pics.
    Its absolutely appalling how dishonest some of the ad pics are! Any other business would simply not survive if a product were advertised with this degree of deception! Here's an example of one on the TNA board that I got taken in by last year. Her ad pic is on the left. My pic is on the right. I raw-dogged her anyway, but only because it was in my own hotel room, where I had a sufficient amount of alcohol available. (For ME, this time, though, not the girl! )


    Don't worry, though, dudes, you won't run into her in New England, she stays on the west coast!
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  12. #11014

    Question

    Like I said in previous posts, I'm still new to this hobby, I'm confused about one thing though, maybe someone can clarify.

    Why are people paying up front? I pay the waiter / waitress after the meal. I just picked my car up from the shop and paid after the repairs were done. The one provider I saw so far, I paid after we finished and it wasn't an issue at all.

    Are they demanding that you pay upfront? That would seem like a red flag to me and I think I would just walk out and accept my loss on the gas and time spent.

    Thanks ahead of time for any info provided about this.

  13. #11013

    Don't even bother seeing this one

    I definitely felt like experimenting today. I was calling and calling, texting and texting multiple escorts. The ones who answered said they were not working on the 4th. So this girl answered my text rather quickly. Hosting at a hotel in Pawtucket, RI. I show up after she said she was waiting outside. I saw her and and we proceed to enter the hotel. She was sweaty, smelled, and looks like a boy. She just got finished smoking and I get in the room and this girl is killing my boner. I told her I forgot the money (when I actually had it). She said I'll go with you. So I get to my car, say I can't do this, sped off, she calls me korny, a liar, and that I was wasting her time. She then texted me the same shit she just said to me LOL. I then blocked her.

    https://south-coast.skipthegames.com...e/619409545022

  14. #11012

    Central Falls

    No need to worry about seeing gals there. Visited approximately 10 escorts in Central Falls over the past 5 years and have never experienced a problem. Because of the small size of the city the hoes are known by everyone and its pretty much accepted. Cops are never an issue unless you are looking for a streetwalker. Personally I would feel safer seeing someone in C. F. Then going to those drug dens in Seekonk.

  15. #11011
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerBob  [View Original Post]
    Idk man, I don't know many (if any) provider who would do multiple pops in a hh session, regardless of how quickly you finished. Not sure that's a reasonable expectation. Was that the only negative (besides the dog), or were there other reasons you wouldn't repeat?
    I appreciate that info. It was a really small room and I felt claustrophobic. And the upsell for the bareback was just a dealerbreaker, especially when I wasn't even there for my full half hour. And she knew I was recommended by somebody too. Just wasn't satisfied, but at least I wasn't robbed.

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